Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:10:15 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:25 -0800 Sandy Rutherford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:20:58 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use mdconfig to create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can point mount at it. Yes, this is true. Sergei, this should do the job for you and your friend. I have only used this up to FreeBSD 4.10. Therefore, if vnode support is different in 5.x, it may need some updating. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html Look at 16.6.2, for info on mounting a file and a example of both. Looks like I'll have to update my script to use mdconfig when I migrate to 5.x. The syntax for loop fs mounts (which is what Linux, IRIX, Solaris call them --- not sure what vn or md stand for in FreeBSD) varies unbelievably between unix flavours. I wrote the script, because I could never remember the syntax of the day. I work in a FreeBSD/OpenBSD/Linux/Solaris/IRIX environment. ...Sandy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:20:58 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use mdconfig to create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can point mount at it. Yes, this is true. Sergei, this should do the job for you and your friend. I have only used this up to FreeBSD 4.10. Therefore, if vnode support is different in 5.x, it may need some updating. To install, just put the script anywhere in your path. umount_iso should be a link (soft or hard) to mount_iso. It looks at how it was called to decide what to do. I also suggest that you sudo it, so you do not need to be root to run it. BTW, this comes with the usual disclaimer. Should it thrash your file system, cause your computer to explode, whatever, I am not liable. However, if anybody hits any bugs in this, I would greatly appreciate hearing about them. ...Sandy -- #!/bin/sh # # File:mount_iso # Description: Mounts an iso image file onto a mount point for previewing. # Usage: mount_iso iso_file mount_point # or umount_iso mount_point ### # Works with FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris. Should work with other BSDs # too, as long as they have vnode support. # # For FreeBSD, the kernel needs to have vnode support compiled in. # See man vn. # # For Solaris pre version 8, lofiadm does not exist. # You need to install the fbk driver and modify the script to use it. # Installation: Put this script somewhere in your path and make a hard link # to it called umount_iso. # Author: Sandy Rutherford [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Created: Thu Dec 5 16:38:43 2002 by sandy on szamoca.uphill.bc.ca # Modified: Thu Dec 5 19:42:43 2002 by sandy on goethe # Mon Jan 17 01:58:52 2005 by sandy on goethe if [ -z $OSTYPE ] then # Get the OS type come hell or high water. OSTYPE=`/bin/uname 2/dev/null || /sbin/uname 2/dev/null || \ /usr/bin/uname 2/dev/null || /usr/sbin/uname 2/devnull || \ uname 2/dev/null || \ echo Cannot determine operating system. Bailing out. 12 ; exit 1` fi case $OSTYPE in *[Bb][Ss][Dd]*) case $0 in *umount_iso) # Find the device file. dev=`/sbin/mount | awk \\$3 == \$1\ {print \\$1}` /sbin/umount $1 /usr/sbin/vnconfig -u $dev ;; *) # Find a free vn device. Note that this assumes that # the device file exists in /dev. If not, you must create it. n=0 while /sbin/mount | grep -q ^/dev/vn$n do n=`expr $n + 1` done /usr/sbin/vnconfig /dev/vn${n}c $1 if [ $? != 0 ] then echo Could not configure /dev/vn${n}c. Does the device file exist? 12 exit 1 fi /sbin/mount_cd9660 -o rdonly /dev/vn${n}c $2 ;; esac ;; *[Ll][Ii][Nn][Uu][Xx]*) case $0 in *umount_iso) /bin/umount $1 ;; *) mount $1 -r -t iso9660 -o loop $2 ;; esac ;; *[Ss][Uu][Nn][Oo][Ss]*|*[Ss][Oo][Ll][Aa][Rr][Ii][Ss]*) case $0 in *umount_iso) dev=`/usr/sbin/mount | awk \\$1 == \$1\ {print \\$3}` /usr/sbin/umount $1 /usr/sbin/lofiadm -d $dev ;; *) dev=`/usr/sbin/lofiadm -a $1` /usr/sbin/mount -F hsfs -o ro $dev $2 ;; esac ;; *) echo Do not know how to mount an iso image for operating system $OSTYPE. 12 exit 1 ;; esac ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:25 -0800 Sandy Rutherford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:20:58 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use mdconfig to create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can point mount at it. Yes, this is true. Sergei, this should do the job for you and your friend. I have only used this up to FreeBSD 4.10. Therefore, if vnode support is different in 5.x, it may need some updating. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html Look at 16.6.2, for info on mounting a file and a example of both. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:17, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 + Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: snip - WinAMP Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP I am confused by this comment, I thought it looked like winamp and worked a lot like it under any system it ran on? snip I meant I've only used it under FreeSBIE. It does look and work like WinAMP everywhere it runs. -- /Xian Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction. Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: Hi, I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I know about the options: Alternatives for: This is what I use, it all came from the ports collection and installed without fuss. - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. The office collection that comes with KDE - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates images. - WinRAR and WinZIP - WinAMP Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP - Virtual CD - Some kind of CD Burner I use burncd and mkisofs from the command line. Can't be bothered with getting a GUI one at the moment - Some DVD Player Ogle, tho I need to set OGLE_OSS_RESET_BUG environment variable, cos there's something up with the sound drivers for my machine (FreeBSD 5.3R and onboard sound on a A7V600-X motherboard). Now that's worked around Ogle is extreamly good, it does DVD menus as well. - AC3filter - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) -- /Xian Do not worry about your difficulties in Mathematics. I can assure you mine are still greater. Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
Sergei Gnezdov wrote: Hi, I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I know about the options: Hello Sergei, Here's short list what I use / would use: Alternatives for: - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. OpenOffice - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates images. GIMP (to create/modify images) - WinRAR and WinZIP There are several command line tools in /usr/ports/archivers. As for GUI: If you're using KDE there's ARK in kdeutils. Gnome should have something similar. - WinAMP XMMS - Virtual CD don't know this software - Some kind of CD Burner burncd with mkisofs works great if you don't mind command line. K3b (/usr/ports/sysutils/k3b) is great if you like GUI . - Some DVD Player - AC3filter mplayer (all you need is in there already) - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) I cannot comment on this but mplayer is supposed to do that. Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski freebsd at orchid dot homeunix dot org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: - Virtual CD don't know this software Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
Sergei Gnezdov wrote: Alternatives for: - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. OpenOffice.org (works with windows too), KOffice - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates images. GIMP 2.0 - WinRAR and WinZIP KDE's Ark/command line utils - WinAMP XMMS is popular, but there are lots of other great ones. Most of them are good. I like Xinf, but I don't use it anymore. - Virtual CD mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file.iso -u 1 mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /cdrom1 - Some kind of CD Burner xcdroast, gnome has support too - Some DVD Player Xine, Ogle, Mplayer. All good, Mplayer sucks for DVDs, though - AC3filter some command line tool and a few gui apps - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) There is a good GUI app for this, but I forget what it's called. Check ports. As a note, though. This friend may be better off with a linux distro. FreeBSD is not newbie friendly and lacks certain hardware/software support that linux has. Not having ALSA precludes certain apps from working/working well. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:09:30 +0100, you wrote: - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) I cannot comment on this but mplayer is supposed to do that. His friend should try out FreesBie (live, bootable FreeBSD CD, no HDD install required). It has all of the required equivilents as well as avidemux2 which can do the DVD to AVI from a pointy/clicky window. Dave -- Dave Please address email replies to: [our favourite OS] AT dgmm DOT net For offlist replies please put FreeBSD in the subject line. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:50:03 -0800 Sergei Gnezdov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I know about the options: Alternatives for: - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. Texmacs, OpenOffice, KOffice, or AbiWord should all work nicely. - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates images. GIMP. - WinRAR and WinZIP Several choices under ports/archivers. - WinAMP XMMS or one of the many one in the ports. - Virtual CD - Some kind of CD Burner I suggest a combo of burncd, mkisofs, and mc. It is not really intuitive or whatever at first, but it works rather nice after reading the related mans. If you want something with a more traditional GUI, there are a few in the ports. - Some DVD Player - AC3filter Both MPlayer and Xine should handle AC3 with out problems. - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) MPlayer is great for this and there are a few DVD ripping programs in the portstree. Now if there only a nice front end to the win32 port. ^_^ http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 + Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: snip - WinAMP Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP I am confused by this comment, I thought it looked like winamp and worked a lot like it under any system it ran on? snip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:32:00 + Frank Staals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: - Virtual CD don't know this software Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use mdconfig to create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can point mount at it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 You can't directly mount iso files, you need to vn/mdconfig them first. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
Sergei Gnezdov wrote: Hi, I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I know about the options: Alternatives for: - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates images. - WinRAR and WinZIP - WinAMP - Virtual CD - Some kind of CD Burner - Some DVD Player - AC3filter - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) Again, these can be found on the website - http://www.freebsd.org/applications.html... And again, have your friend research it on his own. -- Best regards, Chris 1) You can't win 2) You can't break even 3) You can't even quit the game ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend
Again, these can be found on the website - http://www.freebsd.org/applications.html... And again, have your friend research it on his own. Right. Not everybody knows English and not everybody has unlimited Internet connection. And by the way, lots of free software is for geeks only. I have FreeBSD already and I can't spend 1 month installing each app just to figure out which one is the best. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part