Re: The BBC survey....

[Peter A. Giessel]

On 2007/01/26 0:42, Martin Tournoij seems to have typed:
> It's probably more than 90%, the last study I saw (~2 years ago) said
> that 98% of the users used windows.

That survey is clearly wrong.  With Apple pulling 4-5% of the (new)
market, and the average time between replacements being higher with
MacOS over Windows, the absolute largest percentage that use Windows
would be 96%.  Any number higher than that is clearly wrong.  That
assumes everybody who doesn't buy a Mac runs Windows.  So that would
be 0.0% market share for every variant of Linux and every variant of
BSD.  Assume a higher than 0.0% market share for the open source OS's
and the maximum value for windows further declines.  My gut feeling is
that the 90% number is about right, but I would believe anything from
85%-94%.  Any higher than 94% can't be right.  There are obviously more
than zero BSD and Linux users.  :)
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Re: The BBC survey....

[Martin Tournoij]

On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 04:07:57AM -0200, Sergio Lenzi wrote:
> Hello alll
> 
> Even FreeBSD, or even any BSD (ok, OSX is BSD...) is mention in
> the BBC survey, I notice that:

OSX is _NOT_ FreeBSD.
It has a different kernel (based on Mach 3) and only uses userland tools from
FreeBSD, most of which are probably modified by the OSX team.
It also adds a lot of stuff (GUI for example)

> 1) They claim that 90% of the persons use windows, but in the
> publish list, is just the contrary... only 2 ones use windows,
> and like it, and one of them just for games

It's probably more than 90%, the last study I saw (~2 years ago) said
that 98% of the users used windows.

Remember, a lot of users are completely unaware that there is a such a
thing as an operating system.
The people who reacted to the BBC article are computer nerds,
and are not representative for the average computer user.

Also, there is a _BIG_ difference in the desktop OS market and the server
OS market

> 2) The person that likes windows vista, likes it because he
> can make a good backup to save things when he lost them,
> this shows a common thing that happens when you use windows... (you
> will lost something)...
> so you need backups, winzips, winrars, avg, norton...  and zilions
> of useless things
> that make your computer work better..  when in reality, all you need
> is a good gnome 2.16 or 
> a kde 3.5.4...
This can happen on FreeBSD to, the most common reason for loss of
data is hard disk failure, which has nothing to do with windows.

> 3) 90% of the persons use the computer to write documents, access
> internet, and use email.
> so the number or persons using Mac and Linux is rasing
> 4)  To use the vista, probably you will need an upgrade... (a good
> graphics for directx10,
> 64bit cpu, and 2 gb of memory...)  here will cost 1000 dollars.. 
> 5) more than half of the persons were windows users and switched to OSX
> or Linux
Not a shocking fact, since DOS/Windows has has a monopoly on the
desktop OS market for more than 15 years...

> Here in my country (Brazil) I am selling notebooks with FreeBSD and
> gnome 2.16
> to high executives. and is doing well.. so it shows that the success of
> the computer
> is in the easy of use and not in the features it has  The more
> important the person
> in the company, the easy to use and less features must have the
> computer. so
> for me, gnome is the best choice.
> 
> Sergio
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