RE: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-12 Thread Kiffin
I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install
files and nothing else.

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote:
 Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. Mount
 the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install files or
 mp3 files.
 
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 Hi there.
 
 I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
 7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc and then
 selected to install, I get the following error message:
 
 The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD release
 
 Any idea what's wrong?
 
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Re: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
 I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install
 files and nothing else.

It's very possible that the disc burning software you used did something
incorrectly, or did something custom.  What program burnt the CD?  If a
UNIX program, what flags did you give it?

 On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote:
  Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. Mount
  the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install files or
  mp3 files.
  
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  Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a
  FreeBSDrelease
  
  Hi there.
  
  I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
  7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc and then
  selected to install, I get the following error message:
  
  The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD release
  
  Any idea what's wrong?
  
  --
  Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Gouda, The Netherlands
  
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Re: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-12 Thread Kiffin
I rechecked the discs with a verify tool using the original iso files
and nothing is wrong with the discs.

On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 08:01 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
  I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install
  files and nothing else.
 
 It's very possible that the disc burning software you used did something
 incorrectly, or did something custom.  What program burnt the CD?  If a
 UNIX program, what flags did you give it?
 
  On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote:
   Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. Mount
   the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install files or
   mp3 files.
   
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   Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a
   FreeBSDrelease
   
   Hi there.
   
   I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
   7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc and 
   then
   selected to install, I get the following error message:
   
   The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD 
   release
   
   Any idea what's wrong?
   
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   Gouda, The Netherlands
   
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Re: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 07:36:37PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
 I rechecked the discs with a verify tool using the original iso files
 and nothing is wrong with the discs.

A couple comments:

1) This isn't telling me anything.  For all I know the verify tool
only compares ISO file contents to what's on a disc -- that probably
will return success.

You need to realise there's a *lot* of information in the ISO header
which defines the type of disc it is, and types of extensions it
supports (Joliet, Red Ridge, etc.).  And the burning software has to
properly know how to use those bits, otherwise it can do the wrong
thing.

2) Some older CD drives apparently report FreeBSD discs as Audio CDs
(even inside of Windows).  I've seen this happen once in my life, but I
was not trying to install FreeBSD (I was just inserting the disc into a
Windows PC to see what was on it).

The below thread is of a fellow running into the same problem: and his
issue turned out to be a very old/unreliable CD drive, which he likely
(eventually) replaced.  He resorted to installing off of another machine
over the network, but you get the point:

http://forums.devshed.com/bsd-help-31/freebsd-installation-fails-when-looking-for-media-45366.html

 On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 08:01 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
   I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install
   files and nothing else.
  
  It's very possible that the disc burning software you used did something
  incorrectly, or did something custom.  What program burnt the CD?  If a
  UNIX program, what flags did you give it?
  
   On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote:
Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. 
Mount
the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install files 
or
mp3 files.

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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a
FreeBSDrelease

Hi there.

I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc and 
then
selected to install, I get the following error message:

The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD 
release

Any idea what's wrong?

--
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Gouda, The Netherlands

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Re: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-12 Thread Kiffin
Thanks for the prompt response. However, I have a brand-new ASUS X59XL
notebook so the CD drive isn't old. Could it be that the CD drive is too
new and not recognized properly bt FreeBSD rather than too old?



On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 10:58 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 07:36:37PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
  I rechecked the discs with a verify tool using the original iso files
  and nothing is wrong with the discs.
 
 A couple comments:
 
 1) This isn't telling me anything.  For all I know the verify tool
 only compares ISO file contents to what's on a disc -- that probably
 will return success.
 
 You need to realise there's a *lot* of information in the ISO header
 which defines the type of disc it is, and types of extensions it
 supports (Joliet, Red Ridge, etc.).  And the burning software has to
 properly know how to use those bits, otherwise it can do the wrong
 thing.
 
 2) Some older CD drives apparently report FreeBSD discs as Audio CDs
 (even inside of Windows).  I've seen this happen once in my life, but I
 was not trying to install FreeBSD (I was just inserting the disc into a
 Windows PC to see what was on it).
 
 The below thread is of a fellow running into the same problem: and his
 issue turned out to be a very old/unreliable CD drive, which he likely
 (eventually) replaced.  He resorted to installing off of another machine
 over the network, but you get the point:
 
 http://forums.devshed.com/bsd-help-31/freebsd-installation-fails-when-looking-for-media-45366.html
 
  On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 08:01 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
   On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install
files and nothing else.
   
   It's very possible that the disc burning software you used did something
   incorrectly, or did something custom.  What program burnt the CD?  If a
   UNIX program, what flags did you give it?
   
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote:
 Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. 
 Mount
 the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install 
 files or
 mp3 files.
 
 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:07 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a
 FreeBSDrelease
 
 Hi there.
 
 I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
 7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc 
 and then
 selected to install, I get the following error message:
 
 The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD 
 release
 
 Any idea what's wrong?
 
 --
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 Gouda, The Netherlands
 
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Re: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 08:23:51PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
 Thanks for the prompt response. However, I have a brand-new ASUS X59XL
 notebook so the CD drive isn't old. Could it be that the CD drive is too
 new and not recognized properly bt FreeBSD rather than too old?

1) There's nothing special about the FreeBSD CDs.  They are Mode 1
discs, and do not use anything like Joliet filesystem extensions (so
that MS-DOS can see all the filenames in 8.3 format).

2) The age of the CD drive has nothing to do with what sort of
extensions and capabilities it has.  I should have been more precise
when I gave you facts talking about old CD drives -- it's likely that
fellow's Teac CD drive has a buggy firmware, and it's highly possible
that your Asus laptop has the same problem.

3) ATAPI is ATAPI; FreeBSD does not have CD drive-specific drivers.
It would be much more likely that FreeBSD wouldn't find the CD at all
(or any hard disks, etc.) due to the ATA controller not being supported.
Yours appears supported, otherwise FreeBSD wouldn't even know the *type*
of disc.

I would recommend you contact Asus Support and ask them to burn an ISO
of FreeBSD and try to install it on that laptop, to reproduce your
problem.  If they can reproduce it, they should be able to figure out
what's causing the issue; if they can't, then it may be a problem with
your laptop specifically.

P.S. -- This audio CD problem goes all the way back to FreeBSD 2.2.6
or earlier.  It's not a new problem, but it's very rare.  Because of
this fact, I strongly doubt the problem is with FreeBSD, and rather
with buggy firmwares in CD drives.

 On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 10:58 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 07:36:37PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
   I rechecked the discs with a verify tool using the original iso files
   and nothing is wrong with the discs.
  
  A couple comments:
  
  1) This isn't telling me anything.  For all I know the verify tool
  only compares ISO file contents to what's on a disc -- that probably
  will return success.
  
  You need to realise there's a *lot* of information in the ISO header
  which defines the type of disc it is, and types of extensions it
  supports (Joliet, Red Ridge, etc.).  And the burning software has to
  properly know how to use those bits, otherwise it can do the wrong
  thing.
  
  2) Some older CD drives apparently report FreeBSD discs as Audio CDs
  (even inside of Windows).  I've seen this happen once in my life, but I
  was not trying to install FreeBSD (I was just inserting the disc into a
  Windows PC to see what was on it).
  
  The below thread is of a fellow running into the same problem: and his
  issue turned out to be a very old/unreliable CD drive, which he likely
  (eventually) replaced.  He resorted to installing off of another machine
  over the network, but you get the point:
  
  http://forums.devshed.com/bsd-help-31/freebsd-installation-fails-when-looking-for-media-45366.html
  
   On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 08:01 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Kiffin wrote:
 I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install
 files and nothing else.

It's very possible that the disc burning software you used did something
incorrectly, or did something custom.  What program burnt the CD?  If a
UNIX program, what flags did you give it?

 On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote:
  Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. 
  Mount
  the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install 
  files or
  mp3 files.
  
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  Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:07 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a
  FreeBSDrelease
  
  Hi there.
  
  I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
  7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc 
  and then
  selected to install, I get the following error message:
  
  The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD 
  release
  
  Any idea what's wrong?
  
  --
  Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Gouda, The Netherlands
  
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RE: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease

2008-10-07 Thread joeb
Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. Mount
the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install files or
mp3 files.

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:07 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a
FreeBSDrelease

Hi there.

I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from
7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc and then
selected to install, I get the following error message:

The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD release

Any idea what's wrong?

--
Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gouda, The Netherlands

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