Re: Unix basics (was Re: For My Edification)
On 2 May 2011 19:37, Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011, Louis Marrero wrote: Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the terms used by this programmer, such as BSD, shell terminal, nc -u, etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my friend writes down something like In a shell terminal type nc -u 10.101.97.200 . it makes me wonder what I'm missing. When he says shell terminal, think command prompt. nc is netcat, but I didn't know Windows had that. In your friend's defense, I use Windows every day (at work) and I can't always remember what things are called. Especially since MS changes terminology every now and then, evidently just for the hell of it. 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based computer? Yes. You can either set it up for dual boot - either by adding a second hard drive, or by partitioning your existing drive if there's space - or you can run another OS within a virtual machine of some sort. The latter would need a pretty fast machine if the guest OS is to have decent performance. Having said that, I found it easier to get started using an old PC that was too slow to run a modern Windows, but perfectly fine for a GUI-free BSD. I'm typing this on an old Dell that I bought on ebay. Another possibility is to install cygwin ( http://www.cygwin.com/ ) which will give you a rather goodly number of unix/gnu programs, though they have the unfortunate habit of defaulting to bash, and if you install a compiler and some basic build tools a nigh-unto infinite number of programs become available. That said, buying an older, cheap machine to install FreeBSD on is probably the easiest. And who doesn't enjoy buying more stuff? 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? The server's admin would have to give you a shell account. Most commercial ISPs won't do that, but maybe your friend will. With PuTTY, you can connect to any unix/linux/bsd machine with sshd enabled (though you need an account on that machine to actually log in). ( http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ ) X forwarding onto a windows machine ( http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html ) may be best reserved for the 201 course. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: s in the owner permissions = file is executable and set-user-ID mode is set S in the group permissions = file is not executable and set-group-ID mode is set T in the other permission = sticky bit is set, but not execute or search permission. Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: [ ... ] Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file :-) A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: s in the owner permissions = file is executable and set-user-ID mode is set S in the group permissions = file is not executable and set-group-ID mode is set T in the other permission = sticky bit is set, but not execute or search permission. Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Thanks, I got that from the man page. My question, not stated very well, was can a non-root user set those permissions. If so, I obviously do not know how. _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: [ ... ] Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file :-) A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. thanks all - the context of this: the users involved do not know what the chmod command is much less its syntax and I did not do this. What I was going for was could this be a procmail bug or perhaps something more alarming (to me as a sysadmin). _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:04:58 -0700, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: [ ... ] Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file :-) Thanks, I forgot to include that in my summary. :-) In this case, I wanted to say that the user can chdir / search that directory. A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. I would think that's what the permissions should be - it roughly is equivalent to what a file with a similar purpose would look like for a (user's) private .procmail/ directory. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:16 AM, d...@safeport.com wrote: A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. thanks all - the context of this: the users involved do not know what the chmod command is much less its syntax and I did not do this. What I was going for was could this be a procmail bug or perhaps something more alarming (to me as a sysadmin). The permissions here are unexpected. procmail cares about clearing group and other permissions-- unless GROUP_PER_USER is set (cf http://partmaps.org/era/procmail/mini-faq.html#group-writable), which usually would be appropriate for FreeBSD since it encourages all userids to also have a corresponding groupid. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: Senior Network Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents Typically, Level 1 would be a Help Desk / Backup Operator type position. Level 3/4 would be actual administration. (The fun stuff. :) ) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
At a guess, it's a SAGE designation. Try perusing http://www.sage.org Kurt On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 13:47, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This is probably not the best place for this type of question, but here goes anyway: Senior Network Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents Now, that level thinghy I was unable to find on the web what exactly it means. I mean is level 4 the worst or the easyest ? Or maybe that easy/worst terminology isn't quite the best used. Gimme a hint pls. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0200, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Level 3/4 would be actual administration. (The fun stuff. :) ) Then let's give it a go. cv on the way then. I mean, we cannot live just with aer/watter, we need some fun now don't we lads ? :P thx for the hints. Best regards, Claudius ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
anyway: Senior Network Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents Now, that level thinghy I was unable to find on the web what exactly it means. I mean is level 4 the worst or the easyest ? Or maybe that easy/worst terminology isn't quite the best used. probably you should ask who wrote this ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
probably you should ask who wrote this ;) lol, will do that if I can get to an interview :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:00:56 +0200, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: lol, will do that if I can get to an interview :) Prepare for other important questions, like If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself? or even Him: Describe yourself in two words. Me: Innovative and Creative. Him: Can you explain what you mean by that? Me: But you said two words... From SA's Dumb Interview Questions, page 3, via http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/dumb-interview-questions.php :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unix disk utility similar to Victoria ?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 07:27:38PM +, Dieter wrote: Does anyone know of a Unix utility that can do a scan of connected devices regardless of BIOS status similar to Victoria ? The BUSY state is of particular interest. GUI not required. I tried google, no joy. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=129263 It's disappointing that I haven't seen any responses to this. I'm curious about the existence of such tools as well. Have you gotten any answers off-list that you can share with those of us on the list who might also like to know? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Robert Martin: Would you rather Test-First, or Debug-Later? pgpfYde3cXw1f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unix Epoch
On 13.02.2009 at exactly 23:31:30 (UTC), Unix time was equal to '1234567890'. This was the total time that has been elapsed since 1 januari 1970 0:00 UTC. After having survived from a major headache (...) I wonder whether this can technically affect my system or is it just a milestone in history? just a milestone ;) Jos Chrispijn References Visible links Hidden links: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time#cite_note-0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unix Epoch
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Jos Chrispijn j...@webrz.net wrote: On 13.02.2009 at exactly 23:31:30 (UTC), Unix time was equal to '1234567890'. This was the total time that has been elapsed since 1 januari 1970 0:00 UTC. After having survived from a major headache (...) I wonder whether this can technically affect my system or is it just a milestone in history? Jos Chrispijn ___ It is my understanding that this event resulted in a certain amount of alcohol consumption yesterday. It is possible, therefore, depending on how you define technically affect, that certain systems may experience certain..inefficiencies today. Your mileage may vary. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Peter Boosten wrote: The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and September 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) Sendmail on two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused was by clamav. Would be interesting to know, what kind of problems have been there with CLAMAV? Just to be aware. I am currently using clamav /index.php/Clamav-0.94.2 on some FreeBSD computers. Regards, O.K. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
On 30 nov 2008, at 13:51, Ott Köstner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Boosten wrote: The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and September 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) Sendmail on two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused was by clamav. Would be interesting to know, what kind of problems have been there with CLAMAV? Just to be aware. I am currently using clamav /index.php/ Clamav-0.94.2 on some FreeBSD computers. It has been some time ago, on openbsd, and the problem existed between clamscan vs clamdscan. Never had any problems with clamav from the ports in freebsd. Peter -- HTTP://www.boosten.org___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Ott K?stner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Boosten wrote: The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and September 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) Sendmail on two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused was by clamav. Would be interesting to know, what kind of problems have been there with CLAMAV? None whatsoever. I have used it for several years on FreeBSD without incident. There are, from time to time, some security vulnerabilities, but they are handled swiftly by both the clamav developers and the security/clamav port maintainer. -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Jerry McAllister([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.24 14:38:19 -0500: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:36:50PM -0500, Dan wrote: Kelly Jones([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.22 14:16:56 -0700: What Unix program sends email directly, using the MX record of the recipient, instead of using sendmail or an installed MTA? Sendmail/Sendwhale sucks for just about anything. There are much better MTAs out there. For your needs, I think 'nullmailer' from Bruce Guenter would fit the bill and so would qmail in nullmailer mode. Postfix as well. Heavily prejudicial response.I haven't had any trouble using Sendmail for just about anything.But, whatever. It's not prejudicial. I do not wish to start yet another MTA flamewar, but you can't deny Sendmail's poor security, design, performance, and complex configuration. The poor security history is there, the poor funnel design and conf files that require a scripting language are obviously ugly. Sendmail is often replaced due to performance concerns alone. There are much better alternatives. qmail and Postfix. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
On 29 nov 2008, at 17:03, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not prejudicial. I do not wish to start yet another MTA flamewar, but you can't deny Sendmail's poor security, design, performance, and complex configuration. The poor security history is there, the poor funnel design and conf files that require a scripting language are obviously ugly. Yeah, in 1845 it was. Sendmail is as secure as any other mta. And using m4, configuring is poc. Peter -- HTTP://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Peter Boosten([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.29 17:34:28 +0100: It's not prejudicial. I do not wish to start yet another MTA flamewar, but you can't deny Sendmail's poor security, design, performance, and complex configuration. The poor security history is there, the poor funnel design and conf files that require a scripting language are obviously ugly. Yeah, in 1845 it was. Sendmail is as secure as any other mta. And using Simply not true. Sendmail has had TONS of remote vulnerabilities. Many people have fallen victims to exploits and had their servers rooted. The recent one is of 20006. http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?execution=e2s1 qmail has never had a remote root vulnerability or a similar flaw because it's designed with security in mind. Sendmail never was. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Dan wrote: Peter Boosten([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.29 17:34:28 +0100: It's not prejudicial. I do not wish to start yet another MTA flamewar, but you can't deny Sendmail's poor security, design, performance, and complex configuration. The poor security history is there, the poor funnel design and conf files that require a scripting language are obviously ugly. Yeah, in 1845 it was. Sendmail is as secure as any other mta. And using Simply not true. Sendmail has had TONS of remote vulnerabilities. Many people have fallen victims to exploits and had their servers rooted. The recent one is of 20006. http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?execution=e2s1 Hmmm: ERROR, null is not valid. The CVE either does not exist or is not in the format of CVE-XXX-. The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and September 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) Sendmail on two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused was by clamav. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Sendmail/Postfix/Exim/et al should suffice. Take ure pick and use the one who's conf file you prefer. On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Kelly Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Unix program sends email directly, using the MX record of the recipient, instead of using sendmail or an installed MTA? I realize I could tweak sendmail.cf/etc to do this, but that's not working in my (fairly unusual) special situation. I also realize that sending email directly is normally bad, but I'm testing something. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
Kelly Jones([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.22 14:16:56 -0700: What Unix program sends email directly, using the MX record of the recipient, instead of using sendmail or an installed MTA? Sendmail/Sendwhale sucks for just about anything. There are much better MTAs out there. For your needs, I think 'nullmailer' from Bruce Guenter would fit the bill and so would qmail in nullmailer mode. Postfix as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:36:50PM -0500, Dan wrote: Kelly Jones([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.22 14:16:56 -0700: What Unix program sends email directly, using the MX record of the recipient, instead of using sendmail or an installed MTA? Sendmail/Sendwhale sucks for just about anything. There are much better MTAs out there. For your needs, I think 'nullmailer' from Bruce Guenter would fit the bill and so would qmail in nullmailer mode. Postfix as well. Heavily prejudicial response.I haven't had any trouble using Sendmail for just about anything.But, whatever. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
recipient, instead of using sendmail or an installed MTA? Sendmail/Sendwhale sucks for just about anything. There are much better as i like programs that sucks, i use sendmail everywhere. it's perfect ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:16:56 -0700 Kelly Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Unix program sends email directly, using the MX record of the recipient, instead of using sendmail or an installed MTA? I realize I could tweak sendmail.cf/etc to do this, but that's not working in my (fairly unusual) special situation. I also realize that sending email directly is normally bad, but I'm testing something. See if ssmtp in ports does what you need. If that's still not direct enough, there's always telnet. SMTP conversations aren't really that difficult to simulate. -Bill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site?
Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ Chris If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful downloading the updates from that site for a while. Kurt I'll have a look at these, thanks for the suggestion. I have to say though the unxutils commands that I have used work perfectly well despite their age, don't require cygwin and don't do silly registry things on windows. I need this as I'm using them on a work computer which I am not allowed to install software on :P Chris The unxutils work well, but the gnuwin32 stuff is a bit more current, and more complete. They don't require any registry fiddling nor extra DLLs, either, just like the unxutils stuff. I stick them in a directory, and set my path up with that. Works well for me, anyway. HTH, Kurt Cool! I will definitely check these out, thanks. (Sorry list, OT) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site?
Kurt Buff wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly Jones wrote: I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, lists, etc. Is there a Unix tool that does this? I know SharePoint has an API, which basically spoofs the GET/POST calls that your browser would make(?). Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that abstracts this? Is this what you want? http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ Chris If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful downloading the updates from that site for a while. Kurt I'll have a look at these, thanks for the suggestion. I have to say though the unxutils commands that I have used work perfectly well despite their age, don't require cygwin and don't do silly registry things on windows. I need this as I'm using them on a work computer which I am not allowed to install software on :P Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 5/27/2008 1:25 PM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site?
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly Jones wrote: I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, lists, etc. Is there a Unix tool that does this? I know SharePoint has an API, which basically spoofs the GET/POST calls that your browser would make(?). Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that abstracts this? Is this what you want? http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ Chris If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful downloading the updates from that site for a while. Kurt I'll have a look at these, thanks for the suggestion. I have to say though the unxutils commands that I have used work perfectly well despite their age, don't require cygwin and don't do silly registry things on windows. I need this as I'm using them on a work computer which I am not allowed to install software on :P Chris The unxutils work well, but the gnuwin32 stuff is a bit more current, and more complete. They don't require any registry fiddling nor extra DLLs, either, just like the unxutils stuff. I stick them in a directory, and set my path up with that. Works well for me, anyway. HTH, Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site?
At 02:58 PM 5/24/2008, Kelly Jones wrote: I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, lists, etc. Is there a Unix tool that does this? I know SharePoint has an API, which basically spoofs the GET/POST calls that your browser would make(?). Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that abstracts this? Get cygwin: http://www.cygwin.com/ -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Jones Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:58 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, lists, etc. Is there a Unix tool that does this? I know SharePoint has an API, which basically spoofs the GET/POST calls that your browser would make(?). Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that abstracts this? Kelly - HTTP::WebDav is your friend. It allows you to access your SharePoint site from perl. You can retrieve data and store data. Also take a look at hits perl-snippet: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=612797 Hope this helps Tobias ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site?
Kelly Jones wrote: I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, lists, etc. Is there a Unix tool that does this? I know SharePoint has an API, which basically spoofs the GET/POST calls that your browser would make(?). Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that abstracts this? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM Is this what you want? http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.:
I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support
for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support
for that on both ends.
More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info
about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with
out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use
or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff.
I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything
exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick
search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least
part of) what you're looking for:
http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm
Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux
(which is a lng time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender
has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former
reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one
(which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the
referenced page above which shows you how to set up the
corresponding recvmsg call.
Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants
to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC).
Been spending a bit of time messing around with it and it appears to
be broken.
I've tried various things, but it does not seem to fetch any thing.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Socket::MsgHdr;
use Socket;
use IO::Socket::UNIX;
unlink(/tmp/testsocket);
my $listen_socket = new IO::Socket::UNIX( Local = /tmp/testsocket,
Listen=1);
while(my $conn = $listen_socket-accept){
my $inHdr = Socket::MsgHdr-new(buflen=8192, namelen=256);
recvmsg($conn, $inHdr, LOCAL_CREDS);
my $creds=$conn-sockopt(LOCAL_CREDS);
print $creds;
my @cmsg = $inHdr-cmsghdr();
$conn-send($#cmsg.\n);
while (my ($level, $type, $data) = splice(@cmsg, 0, 3)) {
$conn-send($level.\n.
$type.\n.
$data.\n\n);
}
$conn-close;
};
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Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2008 15:28:26 schrieb Zane C.B.: snip As far as I understand the code you've written, that won't work, because you're tying to send/receive the ancilliary messages as socket data, and not as a separate message. Additionally, I don't program any Perl (left that for good about eight years ago), and as such, I won't be of much help putting something together in Perl to do what you want. If you're interested in C code that works (possibly to ask someone more proficient in Perl to translate that), just tell me, and I'll hack something together. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2008 15:28:26 schrieb Zane C.B.: snip And, on another note, you might be interested in /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/getpeereid.c which implements a function that (internally) uses a socket option (no need to mess with ancilliary messages) to retrieve the value you're looking for. getsockopt() is surely directly exposed in Perl. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development - Office Germany - EXPO PARK HANNOVER Beenic Networks GmbH Mailänder Straße 2 30539 Hannover Fon+49 511 / 590 935 - 15 Fax+49 511 / 590 935 - 29 Mobil +49 172 / 43 737 34 Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beenic Networks GmbH - Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hannover Geschäftsführer: Jorge Delgado Registernummer: HRB 61869 Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hannover ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:33:22 -0600 (CST) Scott Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:30:21 -0600 Zane C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what the calling PID is on the other end. Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? Sure. Take a look at the man pages for fork(2), vfork(2), and fork(3f). As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. In that case, take a look at perlfork(1), too. I am a bit lost on what fork has to do with the question. Currently have found there is no method for figuring what PID it is. I've found there is support for figuring out what user it is, according to unix(4), but there appears to way to get to using any of the existing perl modules for unix domain sockets. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support for that on both ends. More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least part of) what you're looking for: http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux (which is a lng time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the referenced page above which shows you how to set up the corresponding recvmsg call. Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:54:44 +0100 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 11:30:21 schrieb Zane C.B.: Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what the calling PID is on the other end. Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. Check out man 3 sendmsg and man 3 recvmsg (which should be wrapped in Perl in some way or another), and passing SCM_CREDS messages between the two processes. The SCM_CREDS message is filled in my the kernel, so there's no way (unless the other side is root) to spoof the credentials information. This requires that the sending end willingly sends SCM_CREDS (and the receiver uses recvmsg to query for it), and sends at least one byte of data along with the ancilliary message. I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support for that on both ends. More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 11:30:21 schrieb Zane C.B.: Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what the calling PID is on the other end. Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. Check out man 3 sendmsg and man 3 recvmsg (which should be wrapped in Perl in some way or another), and passing SCM_CREDS messages between the two processes. The SCM_CREDS message is filled in my the kernel, so there's no way (unless the other side is root) to spoof the credentials information. This requires that the sending end willingly sends SCM_CREDS (and the receiver uses recvmsg to query for it), and sends at least one byte of data along with the ancilliary message. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:30:21 -0600 Zane C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what the calling PID is on the other end. Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? Sure. Take a look at the man pages for fork(2), vfork(2), and fork(3f). As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. In that case, take a look at perlfork(1), too. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support for that on both ends. More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least part of) what you're looking for: http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux (which is a lng time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the referenced page above which shows you how to set up the corresponding recvmsg call. Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). Thanks. I did not think to try a search for that. I was trying various combinations involving the word unix and socket. I've gotten it installed now and will post with how it works out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:38:37 -0600 Zane C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support for that on both ends. More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least part of) what you're looking for: http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux (which is a lng time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the referenced page above which shows you how to set up the corresponding recvmsg call. Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). Thanks. I did not think to try a search for that. I was trying various combinations involving the word unix and socket. I've gotten it installed now and will post with how it works out. I can say it installs mostly fine. A few tests do not pass. I am still working on getting a working test script with it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix/sh/bash/tcsh command to limit clock time for program?
Is there a Unix or shell command that runs a given program for n seconds and then terminates it (unless the program takes less than n seconds to run, obviously)? some-command sleep 42; kill -9 $! R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX System Certification Programs
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Martin McCormick wrote: As part of the formalization process for our carreer paths, our organization is wanting us to be certified in our areas of expertise as part of any on-going carreer path. Since I do all my work in Linux and FreeBSD, what sorts of programs are there that would be similar to the Microsoft certifications which are extremely common in the Windows world? For linux you will probably find distribution specific certification programs such as Red Hat Certisfied Whatever. For BSD there are currently two initatives under way, bsdcertification.org and bsdcertification.com Please tell me any thoughts you might have. Stating that I've been messing around with UNIX systems for about 14 years probably won't get me very far.:-) Don't underestimate the value of experience! It is well known that there is a vast number of paper certificates, proveable experience is worth more than some unknown certificate. When companies like certificates it's because they can tell their clients that their employees are certisfied to do the job. But for inhouse tasks experience is worth far more. Cheers, Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UNIX System Certification Programs
If you need a cert just to get a cert, and Linux is appropriate, I think Red Hat has an offering that would probably be considered industry standard. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Norgaard Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:08 AM To: Martin McCormick Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNIX System Certification Programs On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Martin McCormick wrote: As part of the formalization process for our carreer paths, our organization is wanting us to be certified in our areas of expertise as part of any on-going carreer path. Since I do all my work in Linux and FreeBSD, what sorts of programs are there that would be similar to the Microsoft certifications which are extremely common in the Windows world? For linux you will probably find distribution specific certification programs such as Red Hat Certisfied Whatever. For BSD there are currently two initatives under way, bsdcertification.org and bsdcertification.com Please tell me any thoughts you might have. Stating that I've been messing around with UNIX systems for about 14 years probably won't get me very far.:-) Don't underestimate the value of experience! It is well known that there is a vast number of paper certificates, proveable experience is worth more than some unknown certificate. When companies like certificates it's because they can tell their clients that their employees are certisfied to do the job. But for inhouse tasks experience is worth far more. Cheers, Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix equivalent of a variant??
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 10:43 am, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: Hey everyone, I'm finally doing something very exciting here at work: porting software to Unix! I need the equivalent of a variant, however. A hold-everything variable that can be any type in C/C++. Is there something already out there I can use or should I just roll my own? I think you should read and understand MS' documentation on the variant data type before you spend much time trying to code this for *nix. IIRC, the Variant data type is limited to development environments like Visual Basic. I'm thinking there must be an awful lot of overhead associated with handling a Variant data type, as every use of it must figure out what the real datat type is. I don't know what your objective is, and certainly don't pretend to tell you this shouldn't be done, but - just because MS has done it, does not mean it is a good thing to do in general. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix equivalent of a variant??
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 05:21:41AM -0600, Jay Moore wrote: On Tuesday 01 February 2005 10:43 am, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: Hey everyone, I'm finally doing something very exciting here at work: porting software to Unix! I need the equivalent of a variant, however. A hold-everything variable that can be any type in C/C++. Is there something already out there I can use or should I just roll my own? I think you should read and understand MS' documentation on the variant data type before you spend much time trying to code this for *nix. IIRC, the Variant data type is limited to development environments like Visual Basic. I'm thinking there must be an awful lot of overhead associated with handling a Variant data type, as every use of it must figure out what the real datat type is. I don't know what your objective is, and certainly don't pretend to tell you this shouldn't be done, but - just because MS has done it, does not mean it is a good thing to do in general. Or, just use PERL. :) -- John Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix equivalent of a variant??
Hey everyone, I'm finally doing something very exciting here at work: porting software to Unix! I need the equivalent of a variant, however. A hold-everything variable that can be any type in C/C++. Is there something already out there I can use or should I just roll my own? Are you porting VB code over to *nix? If that's the case then a better fit might be Python or Ruby with or without one of the various bindings for windowing toolkits. Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix equivalent of a variant??
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 09:04:20AM -0500, Jason Stewart wrote: : Hey everyone, : : I'm finally doing something very exciting here at work: porting software to : Unix! : : I need the equivalent of a variant, however. A hold-everything variable : that can be any type in C/C++. Is there something already out there I can : use or should I just roll my own? : : : Are you porting VB code over to *nix? If that's the case then a better : fit might be Python or Ruby with or without one of the various : bindings for windowing toolkits. I think I'm going to use Python as the test container, but all the component code needs to be C/C++. I think the boost library is exactly what I need. jm -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix equivalent of a variant??
On Feb 1, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: I need the equivalent of a variant, however. A hold-everything variable that can be any type in C/C++. Is there something already out there I can use or should I just roll my own? Your question probably belongs on comp.lang.c, but the cannonical way of handling data of any type is a memory buffer and a (void *). Watch out for host data alignment restrictions. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix equivalent of a variant??
Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 1, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: I need the equivalent of a variant, however. A hold-everything variable that can be any type in C/C++. Is there something already out there I can use or should I just roll my own? Your question probably belongs on comp.lang.c, but the cannonical way of handling data of any type is a memory buffer and a (void *). Watch out for host data alignment restrictions. Or depending on the intent, a union, which will get the compiler to take care of alignment. Generally, though, avoiding typechecking is a hack best avoided... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX-Based VPN Applications
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 11:19 am, Martin McCormick wrote: I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications that can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I think the general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of our campus and receive an IP number on our network. There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the network to accept these connections. Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX box on campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking about is whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in general can register with to have a presence on our network. Thank you very much. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group You might take a look at openvpn, which is available for *BSD, Linux, Mac OSX. Solaris and Windows. You can find openvpn in the ports at: /usr/ports/security/openvpn/ The openvpn website can be found at: http://openvpn.net/ Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UNIX-Based VPN Applications
Martin McCormick wrote: I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications that can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I think the general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of our campus and receive an IP number on our network. There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the network to accept these connections. Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX box on campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking about is whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in general can register with to have a presence on our network. Thank you very much. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group ___ I use vpnc which has worked very well. Good luck, Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX-Based VPN Applications
On Jan 12, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications that can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I think the general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of our campus and receive an IP number on our network. There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the network to accept these connections. Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX box on campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking about is whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in general can register with to have a presence on our network. Thank you very much. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group I've had a lot of luck with mpd. Give that a try... HTH ___ Eric F Crist I am so smart, S.M.R.T! Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: UNIX
anton Sothinathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I was told that I could learn UNIX for free on this site. If so please let me know how. My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX
it was said: I was told that I could learn UNIX for free on this site. If so please = let me know how. My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Welcome to FreeBSD! You certainly can learn about unix type OSs here. The best place to start is with the Handbook. the URL is http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html (URL may have wrapped). Regards, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX fonts on OSX
Ok I said my piece. And thanks to you Tony Shadwick for sticking up for me. I appreciate it. Nice to see some people remember that you have to ask questions to learn and knowledge is not passed down genetically to the youth. yes, wrong list. no LOL. Well I guess you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. the base system is not freebsd. Please use google and educate yourself. This has been dealt with a lot of times already. The base system is Darwin. Darwin is derived from FreeBSD. Here is a clipping from apples own site. If they are misleading people take up your gripe with them. The upgraded kernel, based on FreeBSD 5.x, provides optimized resource locking for better scalability across multiple processors, support for 64-bit memory pointers through the System library and standards-based access control lists. The system enhances network services via a next-generation launch daemon and centralized application logging. Tiger also features command-line access to Spotlight for searching application metadata and enables many common UNIX utilities to http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/unix.html Do a search for FreeBSD on Apple's site and you will see pages and pages of FreeBSD references in OS X. One, I thought OSX had a OS9 compatibility layer of some sort. Is this wrong? Thank you for stating the obvious. Yes, there is Classic. In addition, yes it sucks. If you take the time and re-read, the subject it says Unix fonts on OS X the classic thing was more of a grip (I apologize to everyone. The mailing list is not a place for grips). I wanted to know if anyone had tried or knew if FreeBSD Fonts would work in OS X, as they are a kin to each other. But hey thanks for not helping at all. Hope you have a good weekend. Sorry to everyone I do not usually respond to people who are more of a nuisance then helpful but he got under my skin and I do not know why. Thank you, Joshua Lewis Felix Kronlage -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 18, 2004, at 19:18, Joshua Lewis wrote: One, I thought OSX had a OS9 compatibility layer of some sort. Is this wrong? it does, it's called classic. But besides that, no clue. Two, Can I install Unix fonts on this system? Would that even work? The base system is FreeBSD so I thought perhaps it might. the base system is not freebsd. Please use google and educate yourself. This has been dealt with a lot of times already. I don't know if I am posting this question to the correct mailing list. If not perhaps someone could let me know where I should take it. LOL. yes, wrong list. no LOL. - -fkr - -- gpg-fingerprint: 076E 1E87 3E05 1C7F B1A0 8A48 0D31 9BD3 D9AC 74D0 http://fkr.hazardous.org | http://opendarwin.org/~fkr/ | FKR-RIPE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBJNEFDTGb09msdNARAsKZAJ9w5XagH2iE29iAJG6ZTDRCSRI0KACeMEnl wNzALUhOm2Rv6++XNWCQCPw= =7B8a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX fonts on OSX
On Aug 20, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Joshua Lewis wrote: Do a search for FreeBSD on Apple's site and you will see pages and pages of FreeBSD references in OS X. Pops up in the man pages on occasion as well. Just now tried man -k freebsd with Panther 10.3.5 and only got one hit on perlfreebsd. It looks to be out of place. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Top-posters will not be shown the honor of a reply. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix timestamp
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:07:50AM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote: Is there a native FreeBSD shell util for returning the time in seconds since the Unix epoch? date(1) doesn't seem to do this, only the converse with the -r switch: [6:05:51] [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/munk# date -r 1064293551 Tue Sep 23 06:05:51 BST 2003 Just curious - I ended up making a simple C app that does the job. This works for me: ~,9:57pm date '+%s' 1064311041 Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When you don't know what you are doing, do it neatly. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix timestamp
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:58:35PM +1200, Jonathan Chen wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:07:50AM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote: Is there a native FreeBSD shell util for returning the time in seconds since the Unix epoch? date(1) doesn't seem to do this, only the converse with the -r switch: [6:05:51] [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/munk# date -r 1064293551 Tue Sep 23 06:05:51 BST 2003 Just curious - I ended up making a simple C app that does the job. This works for me: ~,9:57pm date '+%s' Thanks guys, this was the one I was after :) -- Jez http://www.munk.nu/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix timestamp
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003, Jez Hancock wrote: Is there a native FreeBSD shell util for returning the time in seconds since the Unix epoch? date(1) doesn't seem to do this, only the converse with the -r switch: perl -e 'print time . \n' Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ The is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. -- Robert Heinlein ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix timestamp
In the last episode (Sep 23), Jez Hancock said: Is there a native FreeBSD shell util for returning the time in seconds since the Unix epoch? date(1) doesn't seem to do this, only the converse with the -r switch: [6:05:51] [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/munk# date -r 1064293551 Tue Sep 23 06:05:51 BST 2003 $ date -r 1064293551 +%s 1064293551 $ date +%s 1064294819 -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX programming platform
Dear list, I would like to hear your opinions about your favorite UNIX programming platform. *nix;) The kind of programming I am more interested is system and network programming. Pick one that is accessible to you and dig in. I've found myself liking the BSDs more than the Linuxes, but I am looking for some time to dig into Debian. (Vine and Miracle Linux are presently in use in my office particularly because they provide tools useful in a Japanese environment. Many of those tools are available in freeBSD, but not yet quite as accessible as they are in Japanese-built Linux distributions. We also use Solaris, but that's kind of expensive, and you would likely need no one to suggest it to you if you were in the position to use it.) I am looking for those details that will make my life easier or harder. Then I'd suggest Mac OS X. (This is not your father's Macintosh.) But if you already have an MSWindows box that you want to put to good use, freeBSD is fairly straightforward to get started with, and has a lot of tools/toys to work with. netBSD seems to be good with odd-ball hardware, but you have to know quite a bit about what you're doing to take full advantage of the tools there. (They have some interesting cross-architecture tools, for instance.) If you are already comfortable with installing and configuring, and what you really mean by details is a lean-n-mean system and a tight focus on networking and security, check openBSD out. That's probably the standard take on the more prominent players in the BSD world, but it doesn't do justice to any of it. Start with the one that's handiest for you, but play with the others when you get a chance. (System and _network_ would imply more than one computer, anyway, right?) Just my two cents. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX programming platform
wrote: Dear list, I would like to hear your opinions about your favorite UNIX programming platform. FreeBSD. The kind of programming I am more interested is system and network programming. I am looking for those details that will make my life easier or harder. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html There are translations available if English is not your first language: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#web -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX and Macintosh
Doug, Assuming Imageland is mounted, look for it in the /Volumes folder (corresponds to /mnt on a normal system). /Volumes is a hidden folder - you won't see it in the Finder. Also, type 'mount' with no arguments to see a list of all mounted file systems. By the way, 'rmdir' only works with empty folders, so if you want to delete a whole tree at once, use 'rm -rf'. But be careful, there is no way to recover! Hope this helps, Lee Nelson 11/27/02 2:44:08 AM, Doug Lawhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This question pertains to the Unix flavor used in Apple's OSX 10.2 operating system. I have two partitions on my hard drive. The OS startup disk is a partition named Macintosh HD. The second partition is named Imageland. If I understand the commands correctly, then using rmdir /path-to-folder will delete a folder from the Macintosh HD partition. How do I remove a directory or file from the other partition named Imageland? Thanks...Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: UNIX and Macintosh
From: Doug Lawhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I remove a directory or file from the other partition named Imageland? On OSX, if the volume is mounted (and it should be), it will be in /Volumes/ (notice the capital V in Volumes). Paul -- Paul A. Scott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://skycoast.us/pscott/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: UNIX operating system
On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 19:18, Karen LaPaugh wrote: Are there any limitations to this system? How much does it usually cost an individual? $0.00 for ALL. No. Please read http://www.freebsd.org/ -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
(10.01.2002 @ 0418 PST): Lee Gold said, in 0.5K: I'm trying to use the locate cmd to find all instances of .xinitrc in my system. I did, ..snip.. when you run the program, you're leaving out the 'n' in locate.updatedb, right? that's an email typo. ...snip... so you can't locate anything at all? so, for example, locate termcap gives no output? what's the filesize of your /var/db/locate.database? the db is about 420kb sorry, it works perfectly $locate temp or $locate X11 give big lists. I think I'm getting stuck on the dot beginning the string .xinitrc - I must not be handling that leading . correctly w/locate. The output of $locate .xinitrc is nothing just a new prompt. What would be the reason? Thanks for this help, Lee To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Lee Gold wrote: I'm trying to use the locate cmd to find all instances of .xinitrc in my system. I did, root# /usr/libexec/locate.unpdatedb root# setenv $LOCATE_PATH /var/db/locate.database I've tried root# locate filename with different input but the command gives no feedback or output - it just goes to a new prompt. and of course, # locate .xinitrc or \.initrc or anything else gives no out from the cmd. what am I doing wrong? The file is called xinitrc not .xinitrc Uli. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message *---* *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *---* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
The file is called xinitrc not .xinitrc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc if user has no .xinitrc file which would reside in ~ (so it's ~/.xinitrc). See startx(1) - and my system were it works with ~/.xinitrc :) Cheers, Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
k. first of all, do you actually HAVE any copies of an .xinitrc file? the system-wide one has no dot. if you DO have one, it's typically in ~/.xinitrc. is your /home partition not a ufs partition? locacte.updatedb will only index ufs partitions by default. -Adam (10.01.2002 @ 0415 PST): Lee Gold said, in 0.9K: (10.01.2002 @ 0418 PST): Lee Gold said, in 0.5K: I'm trying to use the locate cmd to find all instances of .xinitrc in my system. I did, ..snip.. when you run the program, you're leaving out the 'n' in locate.updatedb, right? that's an email typo. ...snip... so you can't locate anything at all? so, for example, locate termcap gives no output? what's the filesize of your /var/db/locate.database? the db is about 420kb sorry, it works perfectly $locate temp or $locate X11 give big lists. I think I'm getting stuck on the dot beginning the string .xinitrc - I must not be handling that leading . correctly w/locate. The output of $locate .xinitrc is nothing just a new prompt. What would be the reason? Thanks for this help, Lee To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message end of Re: unix locate cmd from Lee Gold -- Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw. -Lilo, Lilo Stitch Adam Weinberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vectors.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
# locate .xinitrc or \.initrc or anything else gives no out from the cmd. what am I doing wrong? The file is called xinitrc not .xinitrc Uli. Huh?? *---* *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *---* Joshua To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
Lee Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to use the locate cmd to find all instances of .xinitrc in my system. I did, root# /usr/libexec/locate.unpdatedb root# setenv $LOCATE_PATH /var/db/locate.database ^-- Don't use $ there. But that's probably not your problem. Maybe you have a /etc/locate.rc and it's messed up, or maybe one of /usr/libexec/locate.unpdatedb's env. vars. has a bad value. ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: unix locate cmd
Subject: Re: unix locate cmd From: Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..snip Also, locate.updatedb runs as nobody so it will only index directories and files with other read access. Oh. Maybe this is why even newbie questions are supposed to be posted here. So security issues for a new user (or any user) can be pointed out by those in the know. Ok. Would I repair the security of my locate db by running: /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate right now? would it overwrite the existing db and not just add to it? Thank you. From the man page for locate: The locate database was built by user ``nobody''. find(1) skips directo- ries, which are not readable for user ``nobody'', group ``nobody'', or world. E.g. if your HOME directory is not world-readable, all your files are not in the database. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
