Re: Undelete featured filesystem forfreebsd? WAS: Undelete on untouched partition

2004-09-20 Thread Bill Moran
Joachim Dagerot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  | On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:23:08AM +0200, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
  |  I have a disk with one single slice and one partition: ad1s1d. I
 used
  |  move to move ALL data on this disk to another location and after
 that
  |  has the disk been unused. Is there a way to get the content back
 using
  |  a copy of a FAT or similar?
  | 
  | Recovering erased data from a UFS requires guru skills.
  
 What a pitty, well nothing to do then I guess. Thanks for your answer.

Not true.  There are utilities available, and I've seen more than one
HOWTO on this subject.  Use google.

 Is anyone aware of an approach to get some kind of soft deletion
 functionality on freeBSD. I mean, it's not extremely unique to be able
 to get files back after a deletion, even windows has features for this
 since long time.

CVS, or other version control system.  Backup.  Intelligent file
management.

It's rather interesting to note that the Windows world focuses on
recovering from mistakes _after_ they happen, whereas the Unix world
focuses on working in such a way that mistake recovery will be
trivial.

Windows - Oops, I screwed up, let me publish the crazy things I had
   to do to recover from my mistake.
Unix - I'm going to do this important stuff.  Before I start, I'm going
to assume that the fact that I'm human means there's a good
chance that I'll make mistakes and corrupt or lose things, so I'll
take steps from the get-go to make it easy to backtrack when that
happens.

Just my $.02

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Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Undelete featured filesystem forfreebsd? WAS: Undelete on untouched partition

2004-09-20 Thread epilogue
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:00:07 +0200
Joachim Dagerot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  | On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:23:08AM +0200, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
  |  I have a disk with one single slice and one partition: ad1s1d. I
 used
  |  move to move ALL data on this disk to another location and after
 that
  |  has the disk been unused. Is there a way to get the content back
 using
  |  a copy of a FAT or similar?
  | 
  | Recovering erased data from a UFS requires guru skills.
  
 
 What a pitty, well nothing to do then I guess. Thanks for your answer.
 
 Is anyone aware of an approach to get some kind of soft deletion
 functionality on freeBSD. I mean, it's not extremely unique to be able
 to get files back after a deletion, even windows has features for this
 since long time.

the easiest thing to do would be to prepare for the 'next time'.

1) create a 'garbage' directory wherever you believe it would make the most
sense.

2) create an alias within your .cshrc (or bash, or zsh, etc) which, when
'rm' is invoked, uses 'mv' to move the file to your 'garbage' dir.  to
my knowledge, this is pretty much the same approach used by windows,
gnome, and kde.

this link should get you started:
http://www.cee.odu.edu/uclhd/uclhd_unix_undelete.php

hope this helps.


cheers,
epi

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