Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread perryh
... If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people does not invalidate the dictionary spellings

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:55:51AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: ... If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. An arbitrary convention adopted

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:27:23 +1030, Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net wrote: An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people does not invalidate the dictionary spellings and usage. As I mentioned before, the (hard) disk vs. (optical) disc differentiation seems to be quite

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:21:37 +1030, Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net wrote: Further, If we look at some acronyms associated with optical media we have: CD - Compact Disc DVD - Digital Video Disc but: UDF - Universal Disk Format (The file system frequently used on CDs and DVDs)

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Herbert J. Skuhra
At Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:32:02 +1100, Rob Hurle wrote: Thank you to everyone who answered: kldload fusefs What does ls -la /dev/da* show you. So the device is there, but ntfs-3g fails to see it. Probably kldload fusefs isn't loaded (until Saturday) Yes, fuse.ko had to me copied

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Polytropon
Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. Disk: disk pack, hard disk, disk drive Disc:

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:33:16 +1100, Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: I need to transfer between FreeBSD and Windows, both ways :-( Could you imagine to use FAT instead of NTFS, or do you intendedly require features that are specific to NTFS? I found that FAT - in FreeBSD: msdosfs - is

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Rob Hurle
Hi Polytropon, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. Thanks for your comment. disk began

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Arthur Chance
Polytropon wrote: Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. Disk: disk pack, hard disk,

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Rob Hurle wrote: Thanks for your comments too, about use of the FAT32 file system. I had thought about that, but the NTFS seemed to be a bit more universal - I'm not sure that FAT file systems are recognised by default on Macs (for example). FAT (and almost to the same extent, FAT32)

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:37:50 +1100, Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comment. disk began life as the American spelling (probably older English, copied from Greek) and disc was the English (UK, Australia, probably South Africa and other places). Here, in Australia, I am used

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:07:45 +, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: The distinction you make is one I've not come across before, and I've worked with computers for nearly 40 years. This specific differentiation is common at least in Germany. We handle foreign words quite

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:39 pm, Polytropon wrote: Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-26 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:27 pm, Malcolm Kay wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:39 pm, Polytropon wrote: Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-25 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Rob Hurle wrote: Dear All, This may sound like a Windows problem, but please read on. I made a mistake and bought a WD My Passport external 350GB disc drive for use on several Windows machines, on some of which I don't have admin access, and a couple of FreeBSD systems. On first use

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-25 Thread Rob Hurle
Hi Manolis, Thanks very much for that very helpful reply:   Now to FreeBSD.  The newly formatted (as NTFS) disc appears as two devices - /dev/cd0 (never seen this before) This is how a USB cdrom appears to FreeBSD - as a SCSI device. No problem there. cp: /usb0/MyStuff/test: No such

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:33:16 +1100 Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Manolis, Thanks very much for that very helpful reply:   Now to FreeBSD.  The newly formatted (as NTFS) disc appears as two devices - /dev/cd0 (never seen this before) This is how a USB cdrom appears to

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-25 Thread Derek Funk
Rob Hurle wrote: Dear All, This may sound like a Windows problem, but please read on. I made a mistake and bought a WD My Passport external 350GB disc drive for use on several Windows machines, on some of which I don't have admin access, and a couple of FreeBSD systems. On first use on

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-25 Thread Bernt Hansson
Rob Hurle said the following on 2009-10-26 02:33: freebsd [12:12] /usr/ports#ll /dev/da0s1 crw-r- 1 root operator0, 122 26 Oct 09:02 /dev/da0s1 freebsd [12:12] /usr/ports#ntfs-3g -o rw /dev/da0s1 /mnt fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory kldload fusefs What

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-25 Thread Rob Hurle
Thank you to everyone who answered: kldload fusefs What does ls -la /dev/da* show you. So the device is there, but ntfs-3g fails to see it. Probably kldload fusefs isn't loaded (until Saturday) Yes, fuse.ko had to me copied from /usr/local/modules to /boot/kernel and then kloaded.