Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 02:02:44AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: Those are the exact symptoms seen when httpd is run without the -DSSL argument. In other words, my little daemons seem to forget their name and their arguments after they've started. Note that despite the warning, the daemons seem to have been successfully restarted (to the best of my knowledge). I suspect it's mod_perl causing the weirdness. Plain apache-2.0.49 works perfectly well for me serving up static html and some php. mod_perl is unusual though in that it has such a complete interface to the apache API. I don't doubt that you can cause any of the effects you've seen with unsuitably written perl code. Serious debugging time required. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgphqwYqUKc3e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2
At 2004-06-13T09:16:25Z, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect it's mod_perl causing the weirdness. Plain apache-2.0.49 works perfectly well for me serving up static html and some php. mod_perl is unusual though in that it has such a complete interface to the apache API. I don't doubt that you can cause any of the effects you've seen with unsuitably written perl code. Serious debugging time required. I temporarily disabled mod_perl and the problems went away as expected. I'm kind of surprised that I never saw these problems with the same web application (TWiki) and mod_perl on Apache 1, but it seems to be unique to my Apache 2 installation. Weird. Anyway, the server is question has enough muscle to serve TWiki pages quickly, so I may semi-permanently ditch mod_perl. -- Kirk Strauser pgpE6MDVYZB0A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:38:32AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2004-06-13T09:16:25Z, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect it's mod_perl causing the weirdness. Plain apache-2.0.49 works perfectly well for me serving up static html and some php. mod_perl is unusual though in that it has such a complete interface to the apache API. I don't doubt that you can cause any of the effects you've seen with unsuitably written perl code. Serious debugging time required. I temporarily disabled mod_perl and the problems went away as expected. I'm kind of surprised that I never saw these problems with the same web application (TWiki) and mod_perl on Apache 1, but it seems to be unique to my Apache 2 installation. Weird. Anyway, the server is question has enough muscle to serve TWiki pages quickly, so I may semi-permanently ditch mod_perl. Well, the apache API and hence mod_perl are significantly different between apache 1.x and apache 2.x -- you will need to modify perl code written as Apache PerlHandlers if you want them to work with mod_perl2.0. mod_perl for apache 2.x is still at the pre-release stage. CGI.pm/Apache::Registry stuff should be compatible, but as ever in computing things that should be generally aren't. If you can get your hands on Practical mod_perl by Bekman and Cholet (O'Reilly -- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/) there's two whole chapters about the differences between mod_perl and mod_perl2.0 Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpAnvScdn96l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2
At 2004-06-13T16:32:01Z, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you can get your hands on Practical mod_perl by Bekman and Cholet (O'Reilly -- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/) there's two whole chapters about the differences between mod_perl and mod_perl2.0 Thanks for the pointers, Matt. I'm not that concerned at the moment, but I might take a look at that in my Abundant Free Time. ;-) -- Kirk Strauser pgpf6X9tAixl1.pgp Description: PGP signature