Re: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization.
Peter Brezny wrote: I'm a die hard FreeBSD user. For the past 10 years (since version 2.8 was released) it's been in production on all of my servers. Now however, I'm forced to use linux as the host OS for Vmware as there currently seems to be no current support for FreeBSD as the Host OS for popular VM applications. Is there hope for FreeBSD as a popularly supported virtual machine host, or am I stuck in the multiple disappointments of linsux land. I'd say the feature(s) will come when the money comes, so, as long as there's no great commercial interest in FreeBSD, nothing much will be solved. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization.
rumour has it VirtualBox might have FreeBSD as host OS coming... and i wount admit i said this :) but i saw a post about a solaris build being available, and it stated FreeBSD maybe coming soon. also you can run XEN or KVM on HVM capable systems and get away from that VMWARE Pain also VirtualBox on linux as host runs FreeBSD guests, I actually have 6 FreeBSD guests running on XEN 3.21 under a Ubuntu Server OS, waiting for an HVM capable box to be delivered so i can test KVM and XEN HVM capabilities. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:00 AM, alexus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there is always XEN > > or worse case scenario is jail > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Simon Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Now however, I'm forced to use linux as the host OS for Vmware as > there > > > currently seems to be no current support for FreeBSD as the Host OS > for > > > popular VM applications. > > > > I hear your pain. However, VMware is a commercial company one of > > whose responsibilities is their bottom line. I have heard it said > > many, many times on this and other FreeBSD discussions that, if > > commercial companies hear from the end-users and system > > administrators, they would pay more attention to the group in > > question. > > > > Sadly, to date I have not seen any organized efforts to bring to > > VMware's attention the mob of BSD users that are out there, despite > > all the boastful talks. You also see that there are no (host) support > > for Open and Net (BSD). > > > > OSS virtualization efforts are another story, as there is no "bottom > > line" as such. But you still need the manpower and manhours to do > > complicated stuff like virtualization. > > > > SC > > > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization.
Yeah, But Jail offers no real segmentation of resource utilization and certainly no simple management interface to hand to customers. At least not back in 2006 when I was using them on a 4.x system, where none of the jails survived a simple upgrade (from like 4.9 to 4.10 or something I don't remember). A great tool for testing and such, but I just didn't find it could do what I needed (real resource segmentation and control). How's virtualbox coming along? Does it have FreeBSD host support yet? Anyone using it in production? Sincerely, Peter Brezny Purplecat Networks Inc. www.purplecat.net -Original Message- From: xSAPPYx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:47 PM To: Peter Brezny Subject: Re: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization. Thats a loaded question. Some might say that Freebsd has been a leading in virtualization ( jail(8) for example). Support for Zen Dom0 is coming along nicely it seems. If you want VMware hosting support, not really sure what to say there. VMware server is a linux kernel.. starting to get into the middle of linux land if you go down the VMware route. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Peter Brezny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a die hard FreeBSD user. > > For the past 10 years (since version 2.8 was released) it's been in > production on all of my servers. > > Now however, I'm forced to use linux as the host OS for Vmware as > there currently seems to be no current support for FreeBSD as the > Host OS for popular VM applications. > > Is there hope for FreeBSD as a popularly supported virtual machine > host, or am I stuck in the multiple disappointments of linsux land. > > > Sincerely, > > Peter Brezny > Purplecat Networks Inc. > www.purplecat.net > > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization.
there is always XEN or worse case scenario is jail On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Simon Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now however, I'm forced to use linux as the host OS for Vmware as there > > currently seems to be no current support for FreeBSD as the Host OS for > > popular VM applications. > > I hear your pain. However, VMware is a commercial company one of > whose responsibilities is their bottom line. I have heard it said > many, many times on this and other FreeBSD discussions that, if > commercial companies hear from the end-users and system > administrators, they would pay more attention to the group in > question. > > Sadly, to date I have not seen any organized efforts to bring to > VMware's attention the mob of BSD users that are out there, despite > all the boastful talks. You also see that there are no (host) support > for Open and Net (BSD). > > OSS virtualization efforts are another story, as there is no "bottom > line" as such. But you still need the manpower and manhours to do > complicated stuff like virtualization. > > SC > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: When's FreeBSD going to catch up in the world of virtualization.
> Now however, I'm forced to use linux as the host OS for Vmware as there > currently seems to be no current support for FreeBSD as the Host OS for > popular VM applications. I hear your pain. However, VMware is a commercial company one of whose responsibilities is their bottom line. I have heard it said many, many times on this and other FreeBSD discussions that, if commercial companies hear from the end-users and system administrators, they would pay more attention to the group in question. Sadly, to date I have not seen any organized efforts to bring to VMware's attention the mob of BSD users that are out there, despite all the boastful talks. You also see that there are no (host) support for Open and Net (BSD). OSS virtualization efforts are another story, as there is no "bottom line" as such. But you still need the manpower and manhours to do complicated stuff like virtualization. SC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
