Re: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone?

2006-10-24 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 07:30:26 -0500 Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 22 October 2006 01:21, Scott Bennett wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:06:36 -0500 Patrick Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 Lane wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to
  work. It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at
  http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE
 
  I've followed the instructions at
  http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-dr
 ivers/ but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis.
 
  ifconfig -a looks like:
 
  bfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
  inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255
  ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
  status: active
  fwe0:
  flags=108943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT
  mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
  inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
  ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41
  ch 1 dma 0

  I hate to be a wet blanket, but the above is most likely not the
 wireless card.  Did the Inspiron 6400 come with an IrDA (infrared
 interface)?  FreeBSD seems to want to treat the IrDA as an ordinary network
 interface attached to the firewire controller.  A Dell wireless card uses,
 as you noted, a Broadcom chip set, typically one for which no information
 has been made available to open source developers.  Some of the older ones
 appear to work using the ndisgen/ndiscvt method.  I've had no luck with
 that so far on an Inspiron XPS (the original model) with a Dell 1450
 dual-band wireless card.
  I called Dell XPS tech. support yesterday to find out the path to the
 correct bcmwl5.inf file in Windows XP Home Ed., and they *refused* to tell
 me. They even seemed slightly dismayed that I'd already found the correct
 bcmwl5.sys file via the Windows XP device manager.  After more digging
 around, I think I've found the correct .inf file, but have yet to find time
 to try running the two files through ndisgen to see what happens under 6.1.
  Under 5.x using ndiscvt, I got either panics during boot or else other,
 non-panic error messages when trying to load the .ko file.

  [.sig deleted  --SB]
 ___
Thanks, Scott.  You may be right about that device, although I don't remember 
anything about a irDa in the specs.

 If you have one, the sensor window should be easily visible on the
outside of the case.  On my Inspiron XPS, it's right below the cover latch
button.

I've found that I can kldload if_fwip.ko and device fwip0 is created.  Whereas 
no combination bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys (so far) has ever caused ndis0 to 
show up (but they do love the kernel panic!).  Since fwip0 is specific to ip 
over firewire, it may mean that the ndis route is a dead end on this 
particular machine.

 I just tried ndisgen on the two files from my WinXP system.  It complains
that the bcmwl5.inf is in Unicode and needs to be converted to ASCII, but that
iconv is not installed.  Well, iconv is not part of the base system, but rather
is in the ports tree.  I can't install iconv because, without the wireless
access, I have no Internet connection on my FreeBSD 6.1 system.  Sigh.  I guess
I'm going to have to bother a friend to let me plug my machine into his router
for a few hours to fetch and build ports.  Bummer.

I guess I keep monkeying with it until it breaks or works ... then I'll report 
back :)

 Yes, I'd like to know if and how you can get past it.  For now, it seems
that FreeBSD is still only generally useful as a desktop system.  To use it on
a portable/laptop/notebook, one has to be lucky enough to have a supported
wireless card unless one has a plug-in network connection at home.  I'm stuck
using twm until I can fetch and build a better window manager, and I have no
DRM support because the version of X that shipped with FreeBSD 6.1 doesn't
have 3D support for a Mobility Radeon 9800.  At least under 5.x, MESA DRM was
included, which was indeed slow, but did also work.
 BTW, does anyone know why the radeon driver complains during
initialization that a device found in LINUX (but not in FreeBSD) is not found?


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Re: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone?

2006-10-22 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:06:36 -0500 Patrick Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Lane wrote:
 Hello,

 I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to 
 work.  
 It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at 
 http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE

 I've followed the instructions at 
 http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-drivers/
 but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis.  

 ifconfig -a looks like:

 bfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 options=8VLAN_MTU
 inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
 inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255
 ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e
 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
 status: active
 fwe0: 
 flags=108943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT 
 mtu 1500
 options=8VLAN_MTU
 inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
 ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41
 ch 1 dma 0

 I hate to be a wet blanket, but the above is most likely not the wireless
card.  Did the Inspiron 6400 come with an IrDA (infrared interface)?  FreeBSD
seems to want to treat the IrDA as an ordinary network interface attached to
the firewire controller.  A Dell wireless card uses, as you noted, a Broadcom
chip set, typically one for which no information has been made available to
open source developers.  Some of the older ones appear to work using the
ndisgen/ndiscvt method.  I've had no luck with that so far on an Inspiron XPS
(the original model) with a Dell 1450 dual-band wireless card.
 I called Dell XPS tech. support yesterday to find out the path to the
correct bcmwl5.inf file in Windows XP Home Ed., and they *refused* to tell me.
They even seemed slightly dismayed that I'd already found the correct
bcmwl5.sys file via the Windows XP device manager.  After more digging around,
I think I've found the correct .inf file, but have yet to find time to try
running the two files through ndisgen to see what happens under 6.1.  Under
5.x using ndiscvt, I got either panics during boot or else other, non-panic
error messages when trying to load the .ko file.


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
**
* Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
**
* A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army.   *
*-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
**
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Re: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone?

2006-10-22 Thread Lane
On Sunday 22 October 2006 01:21, Scott Bennett wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:06:36 -0500 Patrick Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 Lane wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to
  work. It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at
  http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE
 
  I've followed the instructions at
  http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-dr
 ivers/ but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis.
 
  ifconfig -a looks like:
 
  bfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
  inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255
  ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
  status: active
  fwe0:
  flags=108943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT
  mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
  inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
  ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41
  ch 1 dma 0

  I hate to be a wet blanket, but the above is most likely not the
 wireless card.  Did the Inspiron 6400 come with an IrDA (infrared
 interface)?  FreeBSD seems to want to treat the IrDA as an ordinary network
 interface attached to the firewire controller.  A Dell wireless card uses,
 as you noted, a Broadcom chip set, typically one for which no information
 has been made available to open source developers.  Some of the older ones
 appear to work using the ndisgen/ndiscvt method.  I've had no luck with
 that so far on an Inspiron XPS (the original model) with a Dell 1450
 dual-band wireless card.
  I called Dell XPS tech. support yesterday to find out the path to the
 correct bcmwl5.inf file in Windows XP Home Ed., and they *refused* to tell
 me. They even seemed slightly dismayed that I'd already found the correct
 bcmwl5.sys file via the Windows XP device manager.  After more digging
 around, I think I've found the correct .inf file, but have yet to find time
 to try running the two files through ndisgen to see what happens under 6.1.
  Under 5.x using ndiscvt, I got either panics during boot or else other,
 non-panic error messages when trying to load the .ko file.


   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
 **
 * Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
 **
 * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
 * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
 * -- a standing army.   *
 *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
 **
 ___
Thanks, Scott.  You may be right about that device, although I don't remember 
anything about a irDa in the specs.

I've found that I can kldload if_fwip.ko and device fwip0 is created.  Whereas 
no combination bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys (so far) has ever caused ndis0 to 
show up (but they do love the kernel panic!).  Since fwip0 is specific to ip 
over firewire, it may mean that the ndis route is a dead end on this 
particular machine.

I guess I keep monkeying with it until it breaks or works ... then I'll report 
back :)

Thanks, again
lane

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Re: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone?

2006-10-21 Thread Patrick Bowen

Lane wrote:

Hello,

I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to work.  
It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at 
http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE


I've followed the instructions at 
http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-drivers/
but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis.  


ifconfig -a looks like:

bfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255
ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
fwe0: flags=108943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT 
mtu 1500

options=8VLAN_MTU
inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41
ch 1 dma 0
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

It seems as if the fwe0 devices wants to be the wireless, as the bfe0 driver 
is my wired ethernet card.
  

...snip...

Any help is appreciated.

lane
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Lane;

When I did the same thing for a Broadcom wireless card the resulting 
loadable module was named bcmwl5_sys. Did you end up with something 
appropriate to your .sys and .inf files?


Also, the .sys and .inf files that came on the disk that came with the 
card either wouldn't work with ndisgen, or gave a file that didn't work 
with the card. I ended up using the .sys and .inf files from the Dell 
website that were reference in another ndis article.


Good Luck.

Patrick
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Re: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone?

2006-10-21 Thread Lane
On Sunday 22 October 2006 00:06, Patrick Bowen wrote:
 Lane wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to
  work. It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at
  http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE
 
  I've followed the instructions at
  http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-dri
 vers/ but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis.
 
  ifconfig -a looks like:
 
  bfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
  inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255
  ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
  status: active
  fwe0:
  flags=108943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT
  mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
  inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
  ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41
  ch 1 dma 0
  lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
  inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
  inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
  inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
 
  It seems as if the fwe0 devices wants to be the wireless, as the bfe0
  driver is my wired ethernet card.

 ...snip...

  Any help is appreciated.
 
  lane
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 Lane;

 When I did the same thing for a Broadcom wireless card the resulting
 loadable module was named bcmwl5_sys. Did you end up with something
 appropriate to your .sys and .inf files?

 Also, the .sys and .inf files that came on the disk that came with the
 card either wouldn't work with ndisgen, or gave a file that didn't work
 with the card. I ended up using the .sys and .inf files from the Dell
 website that were reference in another ndis article.

 Good Luck.

 Patrick
 ___
Patrick, 

Thanks for your attention.

Yes, when I tried ndisgen the file bcmwl5_sys.ko was created, but I got a 
kernel panic when I tried to kldload it.

Do you remember the filename that you downloaded from DELL?  Did you save it?  
Or do you have the link for the other ndis article you mentioned?

What about pciconf on your system?  Does it show this card and chip 
combination?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:        class=0x028000 card=0x00071028 chip=0x431114e4 
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
    vendor   = 'Broadcom Corporation'
    class    = network

Thanks, again

lane
If nothing else, your response tells me that I'm on the right track.
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Re: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone?

2006-10-21 Thread Patrick Bowen

Lane wrote:

On Sunday 22 October 2006 00:06, Patrick Bowen wrote:
  

Lane wrote:


Hello,

I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to
work. It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at
http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE

I've followed the instructions at
http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-dri
vers/ but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis.

ifconfig -a looks like:

bfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255
ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
fwe0:
flags=108943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT
mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41
ch 1 dma 0
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

It seems as if the fwe0 devices wants to be the wireless, as the bfe0
driver is my wired ethernet card.
  

...snip...



Any help is appreciated.

lane
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Lane;

When I did the same thing for a Broadcom wireless card the resulting
loadable module was named bcmwl5_sys. Did you end up with something
appropriate to your .sys and .inf files?

Also, the .sys and .inf files that came on the disk that came with the
card either wouldn't work with ndisgen, or gave a file that didn't work
with the card. I ended up using the .sys and .inf files from the Dell
website that were reference in another ndis article.

Good Luck.

Patrick
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Patrick, 


Thanks for your attention.

Yes, when I tried ndisgen the file bcmwl5_sys.ko was created, but I got a 
kernel panic when I tried to kldload it.


Do you remember the filename that you downloaded from DELL?  Did you save it?  
Or do you have the link for the other ndis article you mentioned?


What about pciconf on your system?  Does it show this card and chip 
combination?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x00071028 chip=0x431114e4 
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00

vendor   = 'Broadcom Corporation'
class= network

Thanks, again

lane
If nothing else, your response tells me that I'm on the right track.
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Lane;

I can't find the article, but the file is R50907.EXE. You can find it by 
googling dell R50907. Heres a link


http://ftp1.us.dell.com/network/R90507.EXE

It's a self-extracting Windows archive.

BTW, you asked about my pciconf. Here ya go...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000617f9 chip=0x431814e4 rev=0x02 
hdr=0x00

   vendor   = 'Broadcom Corporation'
   class= network

Also, if this is on a mini-card, you should be able to crack the case 
and look at the card and see exactly what the chipset is.  Mine is a 
BCM94318.



Hope this helps some.

Patrick


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