Re: adduser and single-user groups
Hi, John John wrote: Could someone point me in the direction of enlightenment with regard to the value add of the group per user approach that adduser uses? Is that a FreeBSD thing, or a *BSD thing, or a unix-like-universe thing, or what? If I understand your question correctly, you are asking about the default group to which a user is added upon user creation. If not, please explain more on what you are asking. useradd(8) will automatically add a user to a group, named after the user, unless otherwise specified. This is the login group for the user, and the primary GID used when read/write access to files and directories is determined. This, of course, can be overridden with the '-g' flag, changing the default group, and additionally with '-G' to add to several groups. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: adduser and single-user groups
On 27/01/10 19.05, John wrote: Could someone point me in the direction of enlightenment with regard to the value add of the group per user approach that adduser uses? Is that a FreeBSD thing, or a *BSD thing, or a unix-like-universe thing, or what? Many systems do this AFAIK. IIRC, the point is that you can set umask to 007 or 002 and your home directory with owner you, and group you will remain private or at least only writable by you. The umasks 007 or 002 are useful if you have some shared folder where you have multiple users with write access, say: drwxrwxr-x root:users /home/share With umask 002, when files are created in this directory by another user in the users group, all users in this group can edit that file, no need to modify permissions. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: adduser and single-user groups
John j...@starfire.mn.org writes: Could someone point me in the direction of enlightenment with regard to the value add of the group per user approach that adduser uses? man adduser; about 60 lines in, there is a whole section titled UNIQUE GROUPS. This is the document you want. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adduser and bcrypt password hashes
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Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Is there a possibility to use as a standalone software
the adduser feature that generate random passwd.
I want to generate new strong password for existing users.
Thank you
Frank
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Another good choice for separate password generation is apg which is
also in the ports. What I like about apg is that it also provides a
basic phonic for each password you can generate that helps you to
remember your password. As you may already know, having completely
ambiguous random passwords isn't necessarily the best thing to use since
most users will tend to write them down on paper somewhere and defeat
the real purpose for generating good secure passwords in the first place.
Here is a small script that can generate these passwords via a web
interface which is quite nice. It does require that you have a ksh
shell however since it was written with this shell in mind.
#!/usr/local/bin/ksh93
PATH=/bin:/user/bin:/usr/local/bin:/; export PATH
umask 077
a=/tmp/apg.$RANDOM
b=/tmp/apg.$RAMDOM
cat EOF
Content-type: text/html
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
html
head
titleHelp generating a new password/title
/head
body
h3Help generating a new password/h3
blockquote
These passwords should be reasonably safe.
Feel free to use one, or reload the page
for a new batch./p
/blockquote pre font size=+1
EOF
apg -q -m 4 -x 4 -M NC -E '[EMAIL PROTECTED]*()\\' -n 10 $a
apg -q -m 4 -x 4 -M S -E '[EMAIL PROTECTED]*()\\' -n 10 $b
# tr command is for bug workaround; apg is not supposed to
# include characters specified after -E option
paste $a $b |
tr 'l' 'L' |
awk '
BEGIN {
printf Password\tRough guess at pronunciation\nhr /
}
{
printf %s%s\t%s %s\n, $1, $3, $2, $4
}'
cat EOF
/font
/pre
/blockquote
/blockquote
hr /
/body
/html
EOF
rm $a $b
exit 0
This script is from the book BSD Hacks, enjoy!
Michael Lawver
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Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
Frank Bonnet wrote: Is there a possibility to use as a standalone software the adduser feature that generate random passwd. I want to generate new strong password for existing users. /usr/sbin/pw usermod username -w random -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
Frank Bonnet wrote: I want to generate new strong password for existing users. Here's an idea: $ head -c 64 /dev/random | md5 | head -c 10 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
Sahil Tandon wrote: Frank Bonnet wrote: Is there a possibility to use as a standalone software the adduser feature that generate random passwd. I want to generate new strong password for existing users. /usr/sbin/pw usermod username -w random thanks a lot :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
On Monday 08 January 2007 5:26 am, Ivan Voras wrote: Here's an idea: $ head -c 64 /dev/random | md5 | head -c 10 Hugely bad idea. Since md5 outputs hex, you're only getting 4 bits of entropy per character. Much better to use something like sysutils/pwgen to generate good random passwords. -- Kirk Strauser pgppuaGVN8vUP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
Kirk Strauser wrote: On Monday 08 January 2007 5:26 am, Ivan Voras wrote: Here's an idea: $ head -c 64 /dev/random | md5 | head -c 10 Hugely bad idea. Since md5 outputs hex, you're only getting 4 bits of entropy per character. Yes, with 10 characters that's 5 bytes of practically pure random data, i.e. 40 bits. You're somewhat right: I don't know about pwgen but usually such utilities generate passwords from a set that looks like [0-9a-zA-Z-,], i.e. 6 bits per character. For a password of 8 characters, that's 48 bits, so 8 bits stronger than 10 hexadecimal characters. For equal entropy, 12 hex characters should be used. But hex characters are easier to remember :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Adduser utility to generate random passwds ?
Ivan Voras wrote: Frank Bonnet wrote: I want to generate new strong password for existing users. Here's an idea: $ head -c 64 /dev/random | md5 | head -c 10 ... or, following the upthread discussion, a preferable alternative: openssl rand -base64 6 This will generate a strong password of 8 characters[*] with 6 bits of entropy each (48 bits total), which is as strong as it gets. [*] literally: 6 random bytes encoded with base64 to 8 ASCII characters signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: adduser question
On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 05:52:53PM -0700, Marvin J. Kosmal wrote: When I type adduser I get the regular first three lines. Check /etc/shells Check /etc/master.pwd Check /etc/group Usernames must match regulare expression: [mkosmal]: iirc, the first time you run adduser it prompts you to enter the default settings you want it to use in future (here you've chosen to allow only usernames that contain the characters mkosmal - probably not what you wanted). The best thing to do would be to do: mv /etc/adduser.conf /etc/adduser.conf.bak and then run adduser as root again.allow only usernames that contain the characters mkosmal - probably not what you wanted). The best thing to do would be to do: mv /etc/adduser.conf /etc/adduser.conf.bak and then run adduser as root again, but this time run it as: adduser -silent This will stop adduser from asking you for defaults and instead will work it out from it's default settings. That last line must come from an aborted prior attempt. Yes, perhaps you thought it was prompting you for the username of the user you wanted to add to the system (which ends up being taken as the regular expression to describe what valid usernames should be). It just gets worse after that. In /usr/sbin the adduser script is in part Copyright 1995-1996 Wolfram Schneider etc. yada. yada.. yada.. If you mean you edited the file /usr/sbin/adduser, that's because the adduser program is a perl script! If you read through it you can work out how adduser works :) I am using a disk that came with Teach Yourself FreeBSD in 24 hours.. I tried editing the following files by had /etc/passwd. /etc/master.pwd /etc/group Not a good idea unless you know what you're doing. After editing /etc/master.passwd by hand (NOT /etc/passwd) you then need to run another utility, pwd_mkdb, to rebuild the system password database. Read the man pages thoroughly before attempting that, try: man -k passwd to see a list of relevant manpages. A better password management system is 'pw' - make sure you type pw add -D first to setup your defaults. To add a user do: pw adduser youruser -m which creates 'youruser' and a set of skeleton files in their home directory (/home by default). Good luck, Jez ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adduser
So why the fuck do things get more difficult ? -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
t should be as easy as pie to add a user. Why the hell does FreeBSD go on and on shooting itself in the foot ? RTFM has become a bad joke. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology .. oh come on
Adding a user should not be rocket science, If the old time Bill Joy lovers would realise that 'csh sucks big time, we may avoid a lot of problems. If anyone can prove to me that csh is superior in any respect to bash, then please tell me. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology .. oh come on
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:16:31 +0100 Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding a user should not be rocket science, It isn't. If the old time Bill Joy lovers would realise that 'csh sucks big time, we may avoid a lot of problems. You can always use /bin/sh, and yes, it does history (set -o emacs) If anyone can prove to me that csh is superior in any respect to bash, then please tell me. -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 841916 Dec 31 15:16 /bin/tcsh -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036396 Nov 17 13:30 /usr/local/bin/bash tcsh is good enough for interactive use (others like zsh as well), and many people have grown to hate bash for one very simple reason. In another attempt at 'embrace and extend', GNU added some features to plain sh that remained functional even when invoked as /bin/sh. That lead to broken scripts that only ran on GNU/Linux systems. Now I feel fad for feeding a troll, let this thread die already :) Happy new year. -- Miguel Mendez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk Of course it runs NetBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology .. oh come on
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 18:30, Miguel Mendez wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:16:31 +0100 Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding a user should not be rocket science, It isn't. If the old time Bill Joy lovers would realise that 'csh sucks big time, we may avoid a lot of problems. You can always use /bin/sh, and yes, it does history (set -o emacs) If anyone can prove to me that csh is superior in any respect to bash, then please tell me. -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 841916 Dec 31 15:16 /bin/tcsh -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036396 Nov 17 13:30 /usr/local/bin/bash tcsh is good enough for interactive use (others like zsh as well), and many people have grown to hate bash for one very simple reason. In another attempt at 'embrace and extend', GNU added some features to plain sh that remained functional even when invoked as /bin/sh. That lead to broken scripts that only ran on GNU/Linux systems. Now I feel fad for feeding a troll, let this thread die already :) Even the original poster has requested (two days ago) that this thread be killed off. Why is questions still being cc'd on this? Regards, Stacey Happy new year. -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (12.31.2002 @ 1005 PST): Cliff Sarginson said, in 0.3K: So why the fuck do things get more difficult ? end of Re: adduser from Cliff Sarginson Not that you gave any context to this, your latest helpful question, but I'd guess the answer is your attitude. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx[EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bayer Berkeley[EMAIL PROTECTED] #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+Eibjo8KM2ULHQ/0RAm+kAKCZGwM9ZKlLaZ4vKdrdmTNpz/QGcACgvxah pipFVbFYnaqKXgEjg8d0PY4= =b/nS -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
- Original Message - From: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: Re: adduser So why the fuck do things get more difficult ? WTF is not going to solve your problem; RTFM will. If anyone can prove to me that csh is superior in any respect to bash, No need to bash csh. RTFM has become a bad joke. Some of us see RTFM as an obsolute low-point in the setup of their system. To them, RTFM is for losers, and they will resort to all other means first, the often lengthy detour despite, if only it will keep them from RTFM. These people reason, If any additional reading is required, beyond what I already know, or think I know, it must be a design-flaw. And then I recall this: If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. This aphorism is attributed to Derek Bok, the former President of Harvard. It seems destined for a long career. - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (12.29.2002 @ 1340 PST): Cliff Sarginson said, in 0.4K: Ok, Two things. One is I should not have mouthed off such a stupid email. I apologise. Secondly, adduser sucks. Let's end this thread, blame it on me. end of Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology from Cliff Sarginson The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as Answers to the following questions will be used as rules for future user additions: Or something that makes more sense. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx[EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bayer Berkeley[EMAIL PROTECTED] #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+ECS2o8KM2ULHQ/0RAtm4AJ9jpAj2aaZ87E3exsNt4KyCxwomIQCbBmtJ VpFjASqYjg+7HaVqVbzzLIA= =oNQM -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:49:26 -0800 Adam Weinberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as Answers to the following questions will be used as rules for future user additions: Or something that makes more sense. I agree with Adam, this bit me in the past also thinking that the Usernames must match regular expression: prompt was asking for the new users name, then also munging up my /etc/adduser.conf file with my proposed new users name, instead of the regular exp. This was all pilot error, but an easy error for a new admin/user to make. --snip-- desktop# adduser /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. Check /etc/shells Check /etc/master.passwd Check /etc/group Usernames must match regular expression: [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: --snip-- Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install configuration. Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root login, and use it!. Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:49:26 -0800 Adam Weinberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as Answers to the following questions will be used as rules for future user additions: Or something that makes more sense. I agree with Adam, this bit me in the past also thinking that the Usernames must match regular expression: prompt was asking for the new users name, then also munging up my /etc/adduser.conf file with my proposed new users name, instead of the regular exp. This was all pilot error, but an easy error for a new admin/user to make. --snip-- desktop# adduser /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. Check /etc/shells Check /etc/master.passwd Check /etc/group Usernames must match regular expression: [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: --snip-- Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install configuration. Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root login, and use it!. Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you see a short coming like this, is there not some way to get it put into the software and/or FreeBSD handbook? I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had a couple of more words of explanation added, would eliminate a great deal of confusion. Where do you go with suggestions for changes? Joe Gwozdecki Houston, Texas To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
- Original Message - From: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:51:20 +0100 To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: adduser On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 08:31:58PM +0100, Alex wrote: Dear/Beste Cliff, Sunday, December 29, 2002, 7:53:02 PM, you wrote: adduser is broken. Broken! I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. Simple! You should not have to have the brain of Einstein But I keep one nearby just in case. I am sorry. A job that should take a few minutes, Pff! What about the applications in triplicate? What kind of users are you trying to let onto our precious collective consciousness? It is no good pretending that FreeBSD sooner it will be realised that it is streets ahead of most other OS'es. I use a sock filled with quarters. Donny Thompson is not gay. Je suis une concombre. Love, Franklin Pierce -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (12.30.2002 @ 0649 PST): Joe Gwozdecki said, in 1.9K: When you see a short coming like this, is there not some way to get it put into the software and/or FreeBSD handbook? I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had a couple of more words of explanation added, would eliminate a great deal of confusion. Where do you go with suggestions for changes? end of Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology from Joe Gwozdecki That's what send-pr(1) and the team of committers are there for ::) If you see something you'd like changed, send a PR about it. Better yet, make a patch and send-pr that. It's not nearly as daunting as it may seem. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx[EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bayer Berkeley[EMAIL PROTECTED] #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE+ESiLo8KM2ULHQ/0RAsTaAJ9KiSbTNxA8rbYUB/f5oGrALIMwQQCXQguk ovcBf6yQU87Drp9Hz71A2w== =+iHJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
adduser is broken. Jeez, people wonder why FreeBSD is not more popular. what is wrong with it? it's working fine here. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: adduser is broken. Jeez, people wonder why FreeBSD is not more popular. Your mailer is broken. It cut off the command you issued and the error message you got. norbert. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! Your mailer is broken. It cut off the command you issued and the error message you got. What on earth are you talking about ? IOW: if you don't tell us, what you've tried and what's happened, we have no possibility to help you. norbert. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
Dear/Beste Cliff, Sunday, December 29, 2002, 7:53:02 PM, you wrote: adduser is broken. Jeez, people wonder why FreeBSD is not more popular. FreeBSD is for a number of reasons not popular. One is that people like you that produce negative PR without cause. -- Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 08:31:58PM +0100, Alex wrote: Dear/Beste Cliff, Sunday, December 29, 2002, 7:53:02 PM, you wrote: adduser is broken. Jeez, people wonder why FreeBSD is not more popular. FreeBSD is for a number of reasons not popular. One is that people like you that produce negative PR without cause. Negative PR ? I do my best to promote it. so i see I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It failed, repeatingly asking me for a user name I had already given. You should not have to have the brain of Einstein in order to put a new user on your system. the really stupid thing is, that when i type adduser on my freebsd machine and then supply the info it asks for it does work. Meaning that you might have done something wrong, but instead of supplying us with the info of what you did and what output you got you start attacking the popularity of BSD. As a matter of fact, immediately after sending that email I started on writing a decent mechanism for adding users. If that is negative PR then I am sorry. A job that should take a few minutes, didn't. When finished I will submit it through the normal channels. in that case, why are you mailing to this list in the first place? Marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It failed, repeatingly asking me for a user name I had already given. You should not have to have the brain of Einstein in order to put a new user on your system. You misunderstood the first part of adduser which is the configuration part (done once). Here's a sample session from my machine: # adduser ,[ configuration part ] | /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory | Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. | | Check /etc/shells | Check /etc/master.passwd | Check /etc/group | Usernames must match regular expression: | [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: | Enter your default shell: bash csh date no sh tcsh zsh [sh]: bash | Your default shell is: bash - /usr/local/bin/bash | Enter your default HOME partition: [/home]: /usr/users | Copy dotfiles from: /usr/share/skel no [/usr/share/skel]: | Send message from file: /etc/adduser.message no | [/etc/adduser.message]: | Use passwords (y/n) [y]: | | Write your configuration to /etc/adduser.conf? (y/n) [y]: ` Ok, let's go. Don't worry about mistakes. I will give you the chance later to correct any input. ,[ first entered user ] | Enter username [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: testuser | Enter full name []: Test User | Enter shell bash csh date no sh tcsh zsh [bash]: | Enter home directory (full path) [/usr/users/testuser]: | Uid [1000]: | Enter login class: default []: | Login group testuser [testuser]: | Login group is ``testuser''. Invite testuser into other groups: guest no | [no]: | Enter password []: | Enter password again []: | | Name: testuser | Password: | Fullname: Test User | Uid: 1000 | Gid: 1000 (testuser) | Class: | Groups: testuser | HOME: /usr/users/testuser | Shell:/usr/local/bin/bash | OK? (y/n) [y]: ` So, you should keep the regexp at the beginning and set up a adduser.conf according to your needs. The rest is mainly hitting the return key. norbert. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: adduser
Hmm adduser works as well as /stand/sysinstall Configure User Management here. BSD UNIX is not less user friendly it's just more picky who it's friends with. Seems to like allot of us hereg Maybe your in Windows purgatory or something. M;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marcel Stangenberger Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:00 PM To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: adduser On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 08:31:58PM +0100, Alex wrote: Dear/Beste Cliff, Sunday, December 29, 2002, 7:53:02 PM, you wrote: adduser is broken. Jeez, people wonder why FreeBSD is not more popular. FreeBSD is for a number of reasons not popular. One is that people like you that produce negative PR without cause. Negative PR ? I do my best to promote it. so i see I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It failed, repeatingly asking me for a user name I had already given. You should not have to have the brain of Einstein in order to put a new user on your system. the really stupid thing is, that when i type adduser on my freebsd machine and then supply the info it asks for it does work. Meaning that you might have done something wrong, but instead of supplying us with the info of what you did and what output you got you start attacking the popularity of BSD. As a matter of fact, immediately after sending that email I started on writing a decent mechanism for adding users. If that is negative PR then I am sorry. A job that should take a few minutes, didn't. When finished I will submit it through the normal channels. in that case, why are you mailing to this list in the first place? Marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:02:50PM +0100, Norbert Koch wrote: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It failed, repeatingly asking me for a user name I had already given. You should not have to have the brain of Einstein in order to put a new user on your system. You misunderstood the first part of adduser which is the configuration part (done once). Here's a sample session from my machine: snip So, you should keep the regexp at the beginning and set up a adduser.conf according to your needs. The rest is mainly hitting the return key. norbert. Cliff, Check out the man page for adduser(8). If you don't want it to run you through the setup each time, invoke it as `adduser -silent`. It will then simply ask you for the basics. By the way, although peoples responses may have seemed a little negative, they were somewhat warranted. They are right, you complained, but gave no specific information such that anyone could effectually help you. Here's an analogy: say I'm having a problem with my machine not booting properly - so I post to freebsd-questions and say, WTF? I just installed FreeBSD 4.7 and when my machine boots it doesn't work! Someone please help me! Obviously, a post such as this is not only annoying, but absolutely worthless. Even a non-computer literate person would be able to identify that the issue needs more clarification. This is what people are pointing out regarding your initial post. Think about your problem and then formulate a question to the list in a manner that will elucidate your problem to people who are, in fact, not sitting at your terminal. For example, you could have posted some snippets from the command. You say repeatedly. Does repeatedly mean 2 times? 5 times? 10 times? An endless loop? Was the user eventually added? Had you read the man page? Exactly how did you invoke adduser? Nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
Negative PR ? Yes, or at least, you act too fast.. That does not mean being uncritical. Than BE critical towards your own attitude. You can not just begin adding users. You have to set up the config file first! It's all in the handbook! So, why didn't you read better? I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It did. It was acting as if you were setting it up and you didn't understand it ;-)) Make the config -a one time job- and you have a very personalized 'adduser' -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.7 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
- Original Message - From: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:53 PM Subject: adduser adduser is broken. Hardly. :) Though I tend to use a wee Perl script of my own, built around /usr/sbin/pw, adduser is not broken. Usually -- and I learnt this the hard way myself -- with a thing this basic, your best bet is to assume the error with yourself, and not with the command at hand. - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. If it's something simple, then any problems have most likely been addressed already. Simple is a clue that perhaps you're doing something wrong. So, read the documentation, pull it all apart and put it back together again before you complain that it's broken. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
Negative PR ? I do my best to promote it. That does not mean being uncritical. I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It failed, repeatingly asking me for a user name I had already given. Look it /etc/adduser.conf remove the user name there and leave that line blank. I've run into the same issue until I realized it was setup so that you could force user names to have a part in common. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser
One thing worth noting, is that in my experience, it differs from the linux version. In Linux you just adduser username, then passwd username and youre in business. In Fbsd, the easiest way is to just type adduser without other args and answer the questions. Bri - Original Message - From: Rick Hamell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: Re: adduser Negative PR ? I do my best to promote it. That does not mean being uncritical. I tried the simple act of adding a user to my system. It failed, repeatingly asking me for a user name I had already given. Look it /etc/adduser.conf remove the user name there and leave that line blank. I've run into the same issue until I realized it was setup so that you could force user names to have a part in common. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
Ok, Two things. One is I should not have mouthed off such a stupid email. I apologise. Secondly, adduser sucks. Let's end this thread, blame it on me. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: adduser ownership of mounted home directory
I am trying to put user's home directories onto a mounted windows share (mounting via smbfs). When I run the adduser script (and specify /mountedshare/username as the home directory) it doesn't set the ownership of the home directory to the user. Root still owns the folder. If I add a user to the usual /home directory it works fine. Do you expect windows to honour the *NIX permisssion flags? Only ntfs comes close but differs too. So, what you want is not possible afaik. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.7 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
