Re: BSD Magazine

2013-08-11 Thread dgmm
On Wednesday 07 August 2013 18:43:45 Frank Leonhardt wrote: No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money. - Samuel Johnson That sentiment pretty much wipes out FreeBSD and FOSS in general. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD Magazine

2013-08-07 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 07/08/2013 13:19, Kamil Sobieraj wrote: Hello, I am from BSD Magazine (BSDMag.org), devoted to BSD operating systems. I would like to ask if you are interested in contributing an article? Current theme is: *Day-to-day BSD administration*. I believe that your experience will enrich our

Re: BSD Magazine

2013-08-07 Thread Mark Felder
Isn't BSDMag now owned by iXSystems (purchased as part of BSDMall?)? And this seems odd / unprofessional to just blindly post on the -questions mailing list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-30 Thread Jens Schweikhardt
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:01:40PM -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: # Hi. Is there no built-in way of making sleep sleep in increments # of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU sleep can be invoked like sleep # 1h for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we # can only use seconds, which

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/05/2013 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-**

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Arthur Chance
On 05/29/13 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-**

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
what is stopping from interpreting 1h in similar manner to 3600? i.e. from now No, this is user-friendly, and thus can't be done :) But if think a second, sleep is used rarely by average users, mostly by programmers and other scripts, and they should know better what they are doing. Seriously,

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 May 2013 07:13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: On 29/05/2013 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-**

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Birch
Seriously, that explanation about different hours is not enough to prevent at least useful option. like sleep -f 1h (-f means force convert, without it you can see good explanation why sleep for 1 hour will be not sleep for 1 hour, and etc, and not get sleep at all.). Do one thing, and do

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
I'm just saying that there's pretty space for discussion. If someone raised this now, why not discuss it now. If you sleep one hour, do you sleep one hour from now or one hour from the system clock which may change in the next hour? If it's the system clock, you may sleep for ten minutes or ten

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 29, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Jason Birch jbi...@jbirch.net wrote: Seriously, that explanation about different hours is not enough to prevent at least useful option. like sleep -f 1h (-f means force convert, without it you can see good explanation why sleep for 1 hour will be not sleep for 1

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 12:04:47 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: On 29 May 2013 07:13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: Right. The fact that on very rare occasions a minute may not have 60 seconds in it plus many other corner cases in calculating the current wall-clock time is an amusing

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:01:53 -0400 Paul Kraus wrote: Agreed. When I first started dealing with Unix professionally (1995, I started playing with Unix-like OSes almost 10 years earlier) I was taught that each Unix command does one thing and does it well. It would still just be doing one thing

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Modulok
I'm personally a fan of a forest-green bike shed myself... It would still just be doing one thing - sleeping. I agree. Perfect solution fallacy aside, a sleep option with basic time increments would be useful for real-world purposes. I'm in favor of computing it as a multiple of seconds as

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Tue, 28 May 2013 at 19:01 -, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi. Is there no built-in way of making sleep sleep in increments of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU sleep can be invoked like sleep 1h for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we can only use seconds, which is kind of

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Joshua Isom
On 5/28/2013 6:01 PM, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi. Is there no built-in way of making sleep sleep in increments of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU sleep can be invoked like sleep 1h for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we can only use seconds, which is kind of annoying. Is there

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Quark
You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time If you sleep one hour, do you sleep one hour from now or one hour from the system clock which may change in the next hour?  If it's the system clock, you may sleep

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-** programmers-believe-about-timehttp://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time Some

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:56:54 +0330 takCoder tak.offic...@gmail.com wrote: *here's the question:* how to restore lost data of a formatted bsd partition?! restore it from a backup? *and here's what has happened to me:* i was trying to install windows xp sp2 on a HD on my system to move

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:50:57 +0330 takCoder tak.offic...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your reply.. you are welcome. On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:56:54 +0330 takCoder tak.offic...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Leslie Jensen
2013-02-17 10:26, takCoder skrev: hi everyone, maybe this question is somehow off-topic but now i'm in an urgent need of any recommendations.. *here's the question:* how to restore lost data of a formatted bsd partition?! *and here's what has happened to me:* i was trying to install windows

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:30:28 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:56:54 +0330 takCoder tak.offic...@gmail.com wrote: *here's the question:* how to restore lost data of a

Re: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-03 Thread Shane Ambler
Greg Freeman m...@gefreeman.com wrote: Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could repurpose them to straight Unix pads that might be cool. On 03/10/2012 05:19, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: I hate to say it,

Re: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-02 Thread Rares Aioanei
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:18:06 -0400 Greg Freeman m...@gefreeman.com wrote: Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could repurpose them to straight Unix pads that might be cool. From there shells and then

Re: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-02 Thread Shane Ambler
On 02/10/2012 22:58, Rares Aioanei wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:18:06 -0400 Greg Freeman m...@gefreeman.com wrote: Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could repurpose them to straight Unix pads that

RE: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-02 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Shane Ambler Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:13 PM To: Rares Aioanei Cc: Greg Freeman; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD on IOS hardware On 02

Re: BSD equivalent of GNU/Linux cp -rpu ?

2012-01-12 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: For a nice backup system that works using rsync and that preserves filesystem history in a space efficient way by cunning use of hard links, take a look at rsnapshot -- http://rsnapshot.org/ Also in ports: sysutils/rsnapshot

Re: BSD equivalent of GNU/Linux cp -rpu ?

2012-01-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 11/01/2012 11:00, Thomas Mueller wrote: What is the BSD equivalent of Linux cp -rpu ? Idea is to backup a directory, recursively, without copying old files that haven't changed. Would I use something like rsync or pax ? rsync(1) is the standard way of doing this. For a nice backup

Re: BSD equivalent of GNU/Linux cp -rpu ?

2012-01-11 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:00:37 -0500, Thomas Mueller wrote: the -u flag, for update, means not to copy files that exist in both the source and destination unless the source version is newer. Hmmm... sounds as if you mean cpdup (which you'll find in the ports collection). Would I use

Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Outback Dingo
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.frwrote: On 18/07/2011 22:22, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available

Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 18 July 2011 19:04:55 Outback Dingo wrote: Sorry Guys.. I just had to nail down the Subject Topic and correct it YEAH Thanks! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-19 Thread Alfredo Perez
I am missing them all, can you upload them somewhere? Thanks in advance On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies, good to know I'm not missing any issues. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Fri

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-19 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:37:14 -0500 Alfredo Perez alfredo...@gmail.com wrote: I am missing them all, can you upload them somewhere? Thanks in advance On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies, good to know I'm not missing any issues.

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 13:50:22 PST Mike Jeays wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:37:14 -0500 Alfredo Perez alfredo...@gmail.com wrote: I am missing them all, can you upload them somewhere? They are all online at bsdmag.org I think they'd like you to subscribe to their newsletter before

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-18 Thread MFV
Hello, I've been downloading BSD Mag since it first came out and your list is identical to mine. Cheers .. Marek On Thursday 17 February 2011 21:40:37 Xn Nooby wrote: Is there a place where I can download all the BSD Magazine PDF back issues? I have got a lot of them from the BSD Magazine

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-18 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 18 Feb 2011 at 08:13:19 PST MFV wrote: Hello, I've been downloading BSD Mag since it first came out and your list is identical to mine. Same here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-18 Thread Xn Nooby
Thanks for the replies, good to know I'm not missing any issues. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Fri 18 Feb 2011 at 08:13:19 PST MFV wrote: Hello, I've been downloading BSD Mag since it first came out and your list is identical to mine.

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-17 Thread Brian Callahan
That looks right. BSDMag was a quarterly prior to 2010 and started in the middle of 2008, from what I remember. And they missed a month in 2010. ~Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD licensed Web Fourm / Blog

2010-09-18 Thread Reko Turja
I thought I would ask quick, does anyone know of web forums or blog software that is BSD licensed? Serendipity - http://www.s9y.org/ Works well with Postgres too. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD licensed Web Fourm / Blog

2010-09-18 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 01:22:48AM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: Hello, I thought I would ask quick, does anyone know of web forums or blog software that is BSD licensed? Blogsum is BSD licensed. -- Jason Dixon OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. jdi...@omniti.com 443.325.1357 x.241

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Macdonald
On 18/08/2010 16:18, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities in ports that will let me do this, I am

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Maness
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities in

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread RW
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:18:58 -0400 Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I am looking for something on BSD that will give me the same info as free(1) in Linux. i.e. I would like to know the state of total/used/free memory and swap. I know there are a number of utilities

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
on wed, aug 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm, chris maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Would not the info displayed in the command top suffice? Yes, top -n 1 does (sort of) display the info I need. The swap portion gives me the same info as Linux free, the memory portion is more cryptic, I guess due to

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there any particular reason you want to know? Free memory isn't a very meaningful concept in FreeBSD. I have a webserver that had it's Apache killed this morning. The box itself had been stable for several years, as well

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 14:14:25 -0400 Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there any particular reason you want to know? Free memory isn't a very meaningful concept in FreeBSD. I have a webserver

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Mike Jeays
On August 18, 2010 02:06:08 pm Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: on wed, aug 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm, chris maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Would not the info displayed in the command top suffice? Yes, top -n 1 does (sort of) display the info I need. The swap portion gives me the same info as

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Jason
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 05:08:35PM -0400, Mike Jeays thus spake: On August 18, 2010 02:06:08 pm Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: on wed, aug 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm, chris maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Would not the info displayed in the command top suffice? Yes, top -n 1 does (sort of) display

Re: BSD equivalent of Linux's free(1)?

2010-08-18 Thread Depo Catcher
On 8/18/2010 1:06 PM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: on wed, aug 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm, chris manessch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Would not the info displayed in the command top suffice? Yes, top -n 1 does (sort of) display the info I need. The swap portion gives me the same info as Linux free,

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-08-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 08:52:32PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:55:11PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: A pitchfork has 2 tines a trident (which is what Beastie carries) has 3. Actually, pitchforks typically have four. Two would be a fauchard or military fork -- a

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-08-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:55:11PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: A pitchfork has 2 tines a trident (which is what Beastie carries) has 3. Actually, pitchforks typically have four. Two would be a fauchard or military fork -- a weapon of war. Tridents, meanwhile, are better suited to fishing,

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-08-01 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, I'd think there wouldn't be much hay surviving in a lake of fire, though. If you go fishing in this lake of fire, can you use a trident instead of a pitchfork? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-08-01 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:13:32 +0700 (ICT), Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: Hi, I'd think there wouldn't be much hay surviving in a lake of fire, though. If you go fishing in this lake of fire, can you use a trident instead of a pitchfork? Sure, but everything you'll

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-31 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 05:07:26PM +, Mario Lobo wrote: On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right? Because Beastie just has his pitchfork

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-31 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
Hello What ever you ppl, say does it really depend on some logo? I` am sick an tired of downld that kind of mails from this list. I mean there are more trouble in the world then discuss `bout some logo of and Underground OS. That`s my opinion so please don`t feed the troll thx Daniel --

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-30 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:30:45AM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Friday, July 30, 2010 14:06:07 +1000 Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: . . . Now about that sex toy.. It's a girl thing, Paul. Or rather, a girls thing .. and no, I didn't forget an apostrophe. Hope that

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-30 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, July 30, 2010 14:06:07 +1000 Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 321, Issue 11, Message: 20 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:24 -0500 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread perryh
Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: Will someone PLEASE kill this thread! Moderator(s)? Er, questions@ is not moderated ... You are, of course, welcome to add a rule to your procmail or whatever to delete these messages before you see them. ___

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread 文鳥
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 Dale Scott dalesc...@shaw.ca wrote: Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Ryszard W. Czekaj
Hi! I like this daemon. I'm using this daemon: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=viewImagefriendID=308365571albumID=0imageID=4021319 OS and computer are not religion. Or I'm wrong? Amiga vs Atari, daemon vs angel? RYCHoo

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Antonio Vieiro
On 24/07/2010 04:01, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: [...] I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. [...] The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go directly to hell after death. The logo is not

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Bob Hall
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:52:07AM +0200, ?? wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 Dale Scott dalesc...@shaw.ca wrote: Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
... You sir are a freaking comedic GENIUS! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Robey Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:47 PM To: Dale Scott Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:27AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:52:07AM +0200, ?? wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 Dale Scott dalesc...@shaw.ca wrote: Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote: The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go directly to hell after death. No need to wait such a long time... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference of BSDie mascot and round thing logo in this thread. I assumed the OP meant the

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote: The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go directly to hell after death. No need to wait such a long time... :-)

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:24PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. I am the one way back in this thread that introduced the difference of BSDie mascot

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 29 July 2010: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote: The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go directly to hell after

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:22:24PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote: The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Our church and most protestant churches do not accept purgatory. I do not accept the moon - it's just the backside of the sun. Also I don't accept gravity as its effects are just actions intended by falling objects to do

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 29 July 2010 18:54:06 Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:16 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Our church and most protestant churches do not accept purgatory. I do not accept the moon - it's just the backside of the sun. Also I don't accept gravity as its

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
I am having fun too! And I had seen the quote on the bible of the number of the beast: http://egomania.nu/gates.html How about the Koran/Quran? Does it have something like this? Does the Book of Mormon have something related? I don't want to ask a priest/pastor about Beastie :( But yes we

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
On 7/29/10, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:24PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. I am the one way back in this

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right? Because Beastie just has his pitchfork Well, don't forget that sado-masochists would find tons of usages

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Mario Lobo on Thursday, 29 July 2010: On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right? Because Beastie just has his pitchfork Well, don't

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, July 29, 2010 14:34:49 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:24PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott.

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 29 July 2010 20:22:26 Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Mario Lobo on Thursday, 29 July 2010: On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right?

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/07/2010 20:45:02, Antonio Olivares wrote: I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right? Someone really should *make* some of these -- polybutadiene rubber (you know -- like those super-bouncy balls) in

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Bob Hall
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:27AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: Beastie is the mascot, and the sex toy is the logo. It is only the mascot that the OP objected to. He didn't mention any objections to the logo. Actually, the OP

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Antonio Olivares wrote: But yes we are in difficult times and then the 2012 saga, will the world end? I have it on good AUTHORITY: $dig @daleco.biz daleco.biz | grep AUTHORITY: ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 That we're perfectly OK:

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 321, Issue 11, Message: 20 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:24 -0500 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: --On Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:03:07 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott.

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
On 7/28/10, Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote: Dale Scott wrote: Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-28 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, July 27, 2010 3:09 pm, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann lr...@cs.okstate.edu wrote: On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this:

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth David Brodbeck on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: On Tue, July 27, 2010 3:09 pm, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann lr...@cs.okstate.edu wrote: On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-28 Thread Dale Scott
wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. Dale Scott - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck g...@gull.us Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:25 Subject: Re: BSD logo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Tue, July 27, 2010 3:09 pm, Chip Camden wrote

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Terrence Koeman wrote: Subject: Re: BSD logo On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ Is this real? It looks like a page from landoverbaptist.com or something. I'm still deciding whether to laugh or cry

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-28 Thread Chuck Robey
Dale Scott wrote: Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to

RE: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-28 Thread Gary Gatten
...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Robey Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:47 PM To: Dale Scott Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) Dale Scott wrote: Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-07-28 Thread Rocky Borg
On 7/28/2010 1:46 PM, Chuck Robey wrote: The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. So you're saying I shouldn't be ritualing sacrificing a chicken as Carl Orff's - O Fortuna plays in the

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Bulk
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:20:48PM -0600, Chad Perrin typed: You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of the specific email to which you

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread FBSD UG
On 27 jul 2010, at 11:10, Bulk wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:20:48PM -0600, Chad Perrin typed: You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Andy Balholm
Chad Perrin wrote: Andy Balholm wrote: although the UNIX term daemon is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional depictions of the Devil. Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- perhaps a source in common

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 02:06:17PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Kruppa, Peter Ulrich
Am 27.07.2010 17:23, schrieb Andy Balholm: Chad Perrin wrote: Andy Balholm wrote: although the UNIX term daemon is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional depictions of the Devil. Really? Are you sure they weren't

RE: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Terrence Koeman
[snip] Perhaps there are some ancient depictions/sculptures of the greek god Pan (god of the shepherds) around? Pan partially resembles a goat. This page has some articles on the subject: http://www.helium.com/knowledge/112455-where-did-the-image-used-to-represent-satan-come-from --

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Monday, July 26, 2010 18:20:48 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 01:24:21PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: When this is the way someone starts a discussion about wanting to

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Jerry B. Altzman
2010/7/23 Victor Skovorodnikov vic...@mail.ru Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. Have you

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Andy Balholm
On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Kruppa, Peter Ulrich wrote: Am 27.07.2010 17:23, schrieb Andy Balholm: Chad Perrin wrote: Andy Balholm wrote: although the UNIX term daemon is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Reid Linnemann
On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

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