Re: calling xterm under KDE

2004-03-06 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Ed,

Thanks for your advice.

- snip -

 You probably can't. As I am using the term, window manager is not an
 applet but a reference to whatever you happen to be using to control
 graphical window behavior on your desktop. It looks like your window
 manager is KDE (which also happens to provide other services so is
 called a desktop environment to denote these additional features). My
 window manager is called blackbox which has a simple menu
 configuration file where I can input a line for xterm and conveniently
 call it through an item on a neat little pull-up menu.

Noted with thanks.  I am interested to be advised of how to build it.  Pointer 
would be appreciated.

 For you I would suggest that you create a shortcut on your desktop.
 You'll need to check with the KDE documentation since I don't actually
 use it but it's probably as simple as right-clicking the desktop with
 your mouse and choosing new or something like that and then through
 properties type in the full command you want your new shortcut icon
 to invoke.

Noted.  I don't need to create a shortcut.  On Konsole window just type 
'xterm' and hit Enter to start 'xterm' window.  It works as 'user' as well 
as 'root'

Thanks

B.R.
Stephen

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Re: calling xterm under KDE

2004-03-06 Thread Scott W
Ed Budd wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:14:13 +0800
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

- snip -

You can add the fontsize as a parameter when you invoke it, like
this:
xterm -fn fontsize

I use 'xterm -fn 9x15' on a high res monitor and set it (along with
some other params) in my window manager (blackbox) menu config.
Hi Ed,

Where can I find window manager?  From 'Control Center' ok KDE?

# menu config
menu: Command not found.
# menuconfig
menuconfig: Command not found
Kindly advise.  TIA

B.R.
Stephen Liu


You probably can't. As I am using the term, window manager is not an
applet but a reference to whatever you happen to be using to control
graphical window behavior on your desktop. It looks like your window
manager is KDE (which also happens to provide other services so is
called a desktop environment to denote these additional features). My
window manager is called blackbox which has a simple menu
configuration file where I can input a line for xterm and conveniently
call it through an item on a neat little pull-up menu.
For you I would suggest that you create a shortcut on your desktop.
You'll need to check with the KDE documentation since I don't actually
use it but it's probably as simple as right-clicking the desktop with
your mouse and choosing new or something like that and then through
properties type in the full command you want your new shortcut icon
to invoke.
EB
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You can do this pretty easily in KDE- right click on the Panel, go to 
Add/Special Button/Non-KDE Application, which will open a file browser. 
 navigate to the xterm binary, and then pass the options to it, in this 
case for fonts.  You can also create a resource file to set the defaults 
for font sizes and others, then source it via xrdb resource file. 
Most of the *term programs are all considered XTerm derivatives, so will 
honor their resource hints.

I missed the start of this thread, but running a seriously 
'heavy-weight' Window Manager/Desktop Environment like KDE and then a 
less resource intensive console seems a bit odd...but I'd suggest taking 
a look at aterm- it's a derivative of rxvt, less than half the footprint 
of xterm (which is less than half the size of 'konsole' already), 
supports transparency if that's your thing...

A sample .Xresources (can be named anything, but needs to be sourced via 
.xinitrc or other X startup means), could look like:

Xterm*loginShell: true
XTerm*scrollBar:  true
XTerm*saveLines:1500
XTerm*background: black
XTerm*foreground: white
aterm*transparent: true
aterm*transpscrollbar: true
#aterm*tinting: light blue
aterm*foreground: white
aterm*shading: 40
They could actually be changed to:
*term*loginShell: true
*term*scrollBar:  true
etc etc and thus affect both XTerm and aterm both explicitly, but aterm 
in this case will still honor the XTerm* settings unless overridden via 
an equal aterm* setting.  You can also set the default fonts and or 
sizes as well...

Blackbox is pretty slick as a minimal WM, although I've got to say I 
never got Rox-Filer working as expected, one of the few things I 
begrudgingly miss from the KDE apps (konqueror, even if it is sort of a 
pig on resources).  Blackbox does however, fix one of the only other 
issues of the 'desktop environments' (GNOME, KDE) that I've come to 
like- tabbed consoles.  If Rox-Filer or another app could replace close 
to konqueror functionality, and perhaps offer a decent panel app (the 
slit is nice, but I don't like their pager/panel much), I'd likely be 
able to remove the KDE libs from all my systems happily ;-)

Scott

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