Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Goksin Akdeniz
On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:

   If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet

   gary

Hello Gary,

Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
installed due to bugs. 

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:

  If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet

  gary

Hello Gary,

Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
installed due to bugs. 

Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the
Bell Labs *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I
found them quite useful, but haven't seen them in years.

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Charlie Kester

* Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-21 09:25:32 -0800]:


Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the Bell Labs
*roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I found them quite
useful, but haven't seen them in years.


The FreeBSD port of GNU diction and style is at /usr/ports/misc/diction.
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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
 
  gary
 
 Hello Gary,
 
 Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
 installed due to bugs. 


thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.  
i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
english.  

gary


 
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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 09:25:32AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
 
 If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
 
 gary
 
 Hello Gary,
 
 Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
 installed due to bugs. 
 
 Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the
 Bell Labs *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I
 found them quite useful, but haven't seen them in years.
 


hmmm!  yeah, i probably have these that i swiped from SVR2 [shhh-h]
in 1986-7.  i never used the roff stuff except in in idiot-mode, but i 
do
remember that joe somebody came up with the tool for running-off
man pages.

gary

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:07:53AM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
 * Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-21 09:25:32 -0800]:
 
 Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the Bell Labs
 *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I found them quite
 useful, but haven't seen them in years.
 
 The FreeBSD port of GNU diction and style is at /usr/ports/misc/diction.


(!!) great to hear that Ma Bell/ATT didn't lock this stuff away for 90+
years under a copyright.  

be interesting to see what style[123] does to my by-hand 
transliterations.


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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
 On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
 
 If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
 
 gary
 
 Hello Gary,
 
 Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
 installed due to bugs. 


   thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.  
   i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
   english.  

They aren't really en route.  They are here, and they're working for me.
The dictionaries are no longer installed with OpenOffice by default -- as
I understand it, this is because there are now so many different languages
that would need to be included.

The documentation I used was at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008, Charlie Kester wrote:
 * Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-21 09:25:32 -0800]:

 Eons ago I used ``style'' and ``diction'' which were from the Bell Labs
 *roff text processing that were available on Xenix.  I found them quite
 useful, but haven't seen them in years.

 The FreeBSD port of GNU diction and style is at /usr/ports/misc/diction.

Thanks.  I didn't know that there was a GNU version of this, but
since you pointed this out, I found that it's a package in the
OpenPKG portable packaging system which we use for most things.

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 02:05:41PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
  On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
  
If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
  
gary
  
  Hello Gary,
  
  Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be 
  installed due to bugs. 
 
 
  thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.  
  i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
  english.  
 
 They aren't really en route.  They are here, and they're working for me.
 The dictionaries are no longer installed with OpenOffice by default -- as
 I understand it, this is because there are now so many different languages
 that would need to be included.
 
 The documentation I used was at:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries


i Can understand the ``myriad dictionaries problem'' since OO
supports so many languages; but I'm looking for a grammar tool.
There was some rumble about a grammar-checker becoming available 
sometime [like RSN:)] ... but so far nothing.  --At the same
time, the GNU diction program has found several things.  Havent
used that for ages.

gary

 
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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Matt
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 02:05:41PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:03:25PM +, Goksin Akdeniz wrote:
  On Friday 21 November 2008 01:21:20 Gary Kline wrote:
  
If there is one with OOo-3, I haven't been able to build it yet
  
gary
 
  Hello Gary,
 
  Spellcheck and dictionary addons are avilable for OOo-3 but can not be
  installed due to bugs.
 
 
  thanks for the datapoint.  good to know these tools are en-route.
  i'm working on some ye-olden texts that need updating to 21st century
  english.  

 They aren't really en route.  They are here, and they're working for me.
 The dictionaries are no longer installed with OpenOffice by default -- as
 I understand it, this is because there are now so many different languages
 that would need to be included.

 The documentation I used was at:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries


i Can understand the ``myriad dictionaries problem'' since OO
supports so many languages; but I'm looking for a grammar tool.
There was some rumble about a grammar-checker becoming available
sometime [like RSN:)] ... but so far nothing.  --At the same
time, the GNU diction program has found several things.  Havent
used that for ages.

gary

Well, there is http://www.languagetool.org/ available for OOo, but I
don't know how to get it installed due to the bad transfer url error
that's been reported [1] when installing extensions.  Any ideas
related to that?

[1] 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-openoffice/2008-October/003941.html

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Re: do we have any grammar checkers for FBSD?

2008-11-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   i Can understand the ``myriad dictionaries problem'' since OO
   supports so many languages; but I'm looking for a grammar tool.
   There was some rumble about a grammar-checker becoming available 
   sometime [like RSN:)] ... but so far nothing.  --At the same
   time, the GNU diction program has found several things.  Havent
   used that for ages.

Oh, right, sorry; I meant to mention the OpenOffice extension
LanguageTool.  As a grammar checker, it's not very good, but
it's good enough to catch a bunch of common typo-ish mistakes
that a spell checker will always miss.  



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