Re: from very early this morning...
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 19:23 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: Gary Kline wrote: [...big snip...] if i've made any sense so far, great! if not,i'm open for questions. i'm also open for suggestions on how to alter this network configuration. thanks for reading this far. gary It might be simplest to replace my firewall and my server with low-energy-usage i386 computers; is there a better way? What are your requirements for your network ie. are you requiring any fancy trickery, or is this simply trying to NAT a couple of machines behind an ADSL connection? No trickery; just trying to run a few desktops and a firewall plus my server. Of course, at the lowest power use, meaning that I'm trying to combine servers, and so on. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: from very early this morning...
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 22:10 -0400, Carl Chave wrote: Hi Gary, Just a couple of thoughts, as your setup sounds similar to mine (and a lot of others' I'm sure) - I too recently decided to make a concerted effort to reduce power consumption. I just re-did my file server with FreeNAS and even though I've got tons of hardware laying around I decided to buy the Intel 945GCLF mini-itx board based on the Atom processor, like you find in most netbooks. I put a gigabit NIC in it though as the onboard is 10/100 (but I knew that and already had the NIC). It's running great so far. I'd like to replace my pfSense router/firewall, which is currently powered by an AMD Duron with another mini-itx board that I've had forever, it's one of the Via C3 500 Mhz based boards. It's only got one PCI slot though, which gets me back to the topic at hand. I just changed my network topology when I stood up the new file server. It's now: |-- Wired LAN ADSL Modem -- pfSense | |-- WAP -- WLAN | |-- DMZ (web server) Forgive my artwork. I have my ADSL modem set to bridged ethernet mode which disables all the router/firewall/dhcp features of the modem and just turns it into a media/protocol converter between the phone line and the ethernet cable going to the pfSense box. I use the onboard 10/100 NIC for that PPPoE connection. I've got three more NICs installed to make up the remaining connections. The wired LAN and the WLAN interfaces are bridged. I initially had these as separate networks but most of my media players are wireless and the file server is on the wired side so bridging it was the easiest way (for me!) to get the broadcasts through. The web server is connected directly to the third NIC at the moment and is it's own network. It's still behind the firewall but I can open ports now to it while still protecting the rest of the LAN from the web server if it get's compromised. At least, that's the theory. So that's my setup, don't know if that's the kind of feedback you're looking for but I'd like to hear comments and see what others have going. As far as I know, my 1.5 M/768K feed is DSL not ADSL; I don't think it makes that much difference. Anyway, it sounds like I'd like to do something like you have. Troubles are that my physical disability prevents me from doing much beyond the keyboard. Then there is the question of which make of Intel I want for my new FBSD or Ubuntu. I'm thinking of something that willl last several years--possibly a quad with lots of disk and memory. (But if a dual or a quad sucks up too many watts, that blows much of the original purpose of cutting my footprint. gary Carl On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Gary Kline wrote: [...big snip...] if i've made any sense so far, great! if not,i'm open for questions. i'm also open for suggestions on how to alter this network configuration. thanks for reading this far. gary It might be simplest to replace my firewall and my server with low-energy-usage i386 computers; is there a better way? What are your requirements for your network ie. are you requiring any fancy trickery, or is this simply trying to NAT a couple of machines behind an ADSL connection? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: from very early this morning...
(But if a dual or a quad sucks up too many watts, that blows much of the original purpose of cutting my footprint. Newer cpu's(multicore vs single) are pretty efficient, here's an article so you don't have to take my word for it. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-cpu-power-consumption,1750-11.html also in general if you want lower power consumption look for cpu's w/ smaller fab eg in term of power consumption and size 90 65 45 gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: from very early this morning...
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 01:47:11AM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: (But if a dual or a quad sucks up too many watts, that blows much of the original purpose of cutting my footprint. Newer cpu's(multicore vs single) are pretty efficient, here's an article so you don't have to take my word for it. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-cpu-power-consumption,1750-11.html also in general if you want lower power consumption look for cpu's w/ smaller fab eg in term of power consumption and size 90 65 45 OUTSTANDING. thanks very much... i have been wondering whether it was worth upgrading my very old hardware (until there are really new low-power cpu's) -- or Not. :-) gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: from very early this morning...
Gary Kline wrote: [...big snip...] if i've made any sense so far, great! if not,i'm open for questions. i'm also open for suggestions on how to alter this network configuration. thanks for reading this far. gary It might be simplest to replace my firewall and my server with low-energy-usage i386 computers; is there a better way? What are your requirements for your network ie. are you requiring any fancy trickery, or is this simply trying to NAT a couple of machines behind an ADSL connection? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: from very early this morning...
Hi Gary, Just a couple of thoughts, as your setup sounds similar to mine (and a lot of others' I'm sure) - I too recently decided to make a concerted effort to reduce power consumption. I just re-did my file server with FreeNAS and even though I've got tons of hardware laying around I decided to buy the Intel 945GCLF mini-itx board based on the Atom processor, like you find in most netbooks. I put a gigabit NIC in it though as the onboard is 10/100 (but I knew that and already had the NIC). It's running great so far. I'd like to replace my pfSense router/firewall, which is currently powered by an AMD Duron with another mini-itx board that I've had forever, it's one of the Via C3 500 Mhz based boards. It's only got one PCI slot though, which gets me back to the topic at hand. I just changed my network topology when I stood up the new file server. It's now: |-- Wired LAN ADSL Modem -- pfSense | |-- WAP -- WLAN | |-- DMZ (web server) Forgive my artwork. I have my ADSL modem set to bridged ethernet mode which disables all the router/firewall/dhcp features of the modem and just turns it into a media/protocol converter between the phone line and the ethernet cable going to the pfSense box. I use the onboard 10/100 NIC for that PPPoE connection. I've got three more NICs installed to make up the remaining connections. The wired LAN and the WLAN interfaces are bridged. I initially had these as separate networks but most of my media players are wireless and the file server is on the wired side so bridging it was the easiest way (for me!) to get the broadcasts through. The web server is connected directly to the third NIC at the moment and is it's own network. It's still behind the firewall but I can open ports now to it while still protecting the rest of the LAN from the web server if it get's compromised. At least, that's the theory. So that's my setup, don't know if that's the kind of feedback you're looking for but I'd like to hear comments and see what others have going. Carl On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Gary Kline wrote: [...big snip...] if i've made any sense so far, great! if not,i'm open for questions. i'm also open for suggestions on how to alter this network configuration. thanks for reading this far. gary It might be simplest to replace my firewall and my server with low-energy-usage i386 computers; is there a better way? What are your requirements for your network ie. are you requiring any fancy trickery, or is this simply trying to NAT a couple of machines behind an ADSL connection? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
