Re: history

2013-09-19 Thread Glenn Sieb
On 9/19/13 3:36 PM, william benton wrote: when I log into free bsd I am in the sh shell. i type history at the command line and the machine says history not found. If I type h at the command line it works like i expect the history command to work. In the csh or tcsh shells history works as

Re: history

2013-09-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:36:43 +, william benton wrote: when I log into free bsd I am in the sh shell. i type history at the command line and the machine says history not found. If I type h at the command line it works like i expect the history command to work. That is strange. The sh shell

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-16 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: there will no no next language. there is no need to have C follower. C is perfect Which C are you referring to here? The original KR, ANSI, or some other variant? ANSI C is different enough from KR C -- in strength of typing if nothing else --

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: there will no no next language. there is no need to have C follower. C is perfect Which C are you referring to here? The original KR, ANSI, or some other variant? ANSI C is different enough from KR C -- in

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? there will

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-15 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/14/10 20:44, Gary Kline wrote: TWo questions: didn't IBM create CPL? And doesn't BCPL Stand for British Computer Programming Language? (I did have both editions of the C book by Brian and DEnnis; then loaned the 2nd edition and never got ti back.) I think

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-15 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 337, Issue 1, Message: 19 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:29:10 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
CPL never amounted to much -- I don't know whether it was ever implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun Nov 14 03:09:59 2010 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:00:35 -0800 From: per...@pluto.rain.com To: per...@apotheon.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?) Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:00:35AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: ... D is already another programming language ... It wasn't back then :) It is now, though, so it's a little late. So sorry. I don't know what this P has to do with it.

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:00:35AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:32:04PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: should the one-leter name for 'c++' be 'd' or 'p'? (nobody could decide/agree, which *IS* why it is 'c++' to this

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:44:50PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: I'd vote for E since that might have more positive connotations that D. :-) Skip F altogether. That might be a good point. Google has taught me that single-letter names for programming languages (or anything else,

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:41:41PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:44:50PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: I'd vote for E since that might have more positive connotations that D. :-) Skip F altogether. That might be a good point. Google has taught me that

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:37:15PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was _the_ new language that it was a good move. Then

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 14 Nov 2010 at 16:29:10 PST Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:54:42PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: I'd say the Next Big Thing in the '00s was Python ... or was it XML? Python hasn't been dominant enough. *Maybe* XML -- but that might be a bit of a stretch. It might be a couple years before we can identify it. Hm. Maybe