Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-20 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 + Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB so should install using that instead of floppies. Not true on a

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-09 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com wrote: My comments/

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:58:04 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: An example from my own practical use: I wanted to install FreeBSD 4 on a laptop that didn't have network or CD-ROM. I chose to boot from floppy, and then started the install process via parallel cable (printer port) from a

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:04:16 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB so should install using that instead of floppies. That's not an argument, that's a dogma. :-) Especially when you want to use AT style hardware, maybe

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Bruce Cran wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100 Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: FreeBSD has no instal...@freebsd.org list. Should it ? Only a few people tend to work on know the constraints of the installer, many people over years have have made suggestions comments,

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Polytropon wrote: To: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com I added back lost Cc: questi...@freebsd.org On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:46:29 +0100, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Allow me a side question, but... what's wrong with ee? (Don't get me wrong, I've been a

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Thomas Mueller
It's easy enough to find error-free floppy disks if you don't mind paying for them: http://www.amazon.co.uk/b?ie=UTF8node=430460031 :) Bruce Cran Are you sure they're error-free? I think most users would prefer USB sticks. The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 + Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB so should install using that instead of floppies. Not true on a very old computer (especially USB) That's why I said the argument,

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Da Rock
On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com wrote: My comments/ wish list - One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser:/usr/ports/www/lynx The lynx browser, due to its special key handling, does not appeal to

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Da Rock
On 12/08/10 11:49, Chris Hill wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Julian H. Stacey wrote: [ snip ] - There are small clones of standard vi, with executables no larger than ee, could replace ee. I think ee is actually a good choice for this application. vi can be a little frustrating for

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Da Rock
On 12/08/10 21:27, Bruce Cran wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 + Thomas Muellermueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB so should install using that instead of floppies. Not true on a very old computer

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-08 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com wrote: My comments/ wish list - One text mode (non bitmap graphical)

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do installations via a

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:29:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: While installation and update via web browser makes sense as an option, it must not be the only option. What if the user starts with a blank hard drive, nothing installed? Then one needs to be able to install from CD, DVD or

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:29:09 + Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: Otherwise, it would be theoretically possible to install FreeBSD from a lot of floppies, but finding sufficient errorfree floppies would be practically impossible. I remember I had a substantial percentage of

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Bruce Cran wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:29:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: While installation and update via web browser makes sense as an option, it must not be the only option. What if the user starts with a blank hard drive, nothing installed? Then one needs to be able to

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100 Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: FreeBSD has no instal...@freebsd.org list. Should it ? Only a few people tend to work on know the constraints of the installer, many people over years have have made suggestions comments, would it be more

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:29:09 +, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: I guess FreeBSD installation from floppies is no longer supported because of the difficulty of fitting the kernel? I think so, too. My interest is to be able to boot a system that does not boot from CD or via

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: My comments/ wish list - One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser: /usr/ports/www/lynx The lynx browser, due to its special key handling, does not appeal to novice users. NO text mode browser gives a first

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-07 Thread Chris Hill
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Julian H. Stacey wrote: [ snip ] - There are small clones of standard vi, with executables no larger than ee, could replace ee. I think ee is actually a good choice for this application. vi can be a little frustrating for those who rarely use it, and it's

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-06 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:09:00 + Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: Is there any intent to modify, hopefully improve, the installer program (sysinstall) for FreeBSD-9.0? There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-06 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do installations via a web

Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

2010-12-06 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:13:19 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Does this imply that the installation requires running X plus a web browser, or a hard to use text mode web browser? Or is this intended to be used for remote installation only? Will the installer therefore be unusable for

Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk?

2009-11-28 Thread O. Hartmann
Daniel O'Connor wrote: [ -current CC dropped ] On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote: I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions

Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk?

2009-11-10 Thread Randi Harper
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.auwrote: [ -current CC dropped ] On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote: I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now done via gpart

Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk?

2009-11-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
[ -current CC dropped ] On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote: I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions from a through h except b

Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk?

2009-11-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:51 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: Hello. I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions from a through h except b and

Re: installer freebsd

2007-07-22 Thread Jona Joachim
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:27:06 +0200 Boudjema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, Please excuses, my english is bad, so i will explain in french my problem if this is not understood; i have a problem to install x window. my hope is to install kde. but without x, i am stopped; when i do

Re: installer freebsd

2007-07-22 Thread doug
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Boudjema wrote: Bonjour, Please excuses, my english is bad, so i will explain in french my problem if this is not understood; i have a problem to install x window. my hope is to install kde. but without x, i am stopped; when i do pkg_add -r xorg, the response is: xorg

Re: Installer can't find hdd

2005-08-15 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Efren Bravo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the problems is in fBSD that it doesn't able to communicate with IDE banks, it raise the errors: ... if the motherboard's controller isn't supported by fBSD, what could I do, should I send to garbage the motherboard? If you're

Re: Installer

2004-10-13 Thread Subhro
Well this thread had been going on pretty long. Some people say for the BSD installer, some throw out flames at it. My personal opinion is, people who want to install and use BSD are expected to rad th documentation and as far as I can remember, the handbook is pretty descriptive about explaining

Re: Installer

2004-10-13 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
On Oct 12, 2004, at 6:08 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!! jerry James Skinner wrote: Sorry about that (not really), but Mac Mail places the reply at the top. Maybe I should use a Leet mail prog like yourself. Well, the folks at Apple can

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread Frank Laszlo
Newton wrote: Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. My experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows and Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
this, I'll never tried FreeBSD again ! Hopefully... Sincerely, Newton - Curitiba - Brazil ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread JohnsoBS
-Original Message- From: Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Installer Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. My experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows and Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window maker

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread James Skinner
Personally, I think the FreeBSD install is incredibly simple. It really could not be easier, but if you want one that is, try DragonFlyBSD. The install of that is very, very simple, but you may run into issues with certain software packages. Jamie On Oct 12, 2004, at 5:45 PM, Jerry McAllister

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!! jerry Personally, I think the FreeBSD install is incredibly simple. It really could not be easier, but if you want one that is, try DragonFlyBSD. The install of that is very, very simple, but you may run into issues with

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread Dick Davies
* Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1009 23:09]: Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!! jerry Can we all shut up about top or bottom postings now please? We know how everybody feels about it, because they've told us a dozen times. Since we're all pouring

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread W. D.
At 15:14 10/12/2004, Newton wrote: Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. My experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows and Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago,

Re: Installer

2004-10-12 Thread James Skinner
Sorry about that (not really), but Mac Mail places the reply at the top. Maybe I should use a Leet mail prog like yourself. On Oct 12, 2004, at 6:08 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!! jerry Personally, I think the FreeBSD install is

Re: installer source location

2004-05-20 Thread Kent Stewart
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 11:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone there please show/driect/point out where the sysinstall source is located at? I have the need to edit it and see if its possible for me to work on it. I am using CVS via Internet. /usr/src/release/sysinstall Kent

Re: installer

2004-05-03 Thread Bill Moran
louis salonia wrote: i have attempted to install freebsd and from a newbies point of view it is not an easy task. i would love to see an installer like fedora core (anaconda) or suse YAST. i thing this would benefit the OS and new users. The libh project was started primarily for this purpose:

Re: installer: / write failed device full

2003-02-09 Thread Tom Vier
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:20:52AM -0500, northern snowfall wrote: well, i put my drive on the sym controller (since it's not seeing my aic7x chips) and now when i starts downloading and extracting the binary sets it stops and says there's no space. this is obviously wrong, since just before

Re: installer: / write failed device full

2003-02-08 Thread northern snowfall
well, i put my drive on the sym controller (since it's not seeing my aic7x chips) and now when i starts downloading and extracting the binary sets it stops and says there's no space. this is obviously wrong, since just before that it does a newfs on an almost 9gig slice. has anyone else had

Re: installer: / write failed device full

2003-02-08 Thread northern snowfall
I have newfs bug is, but, I've had the same occurance. However, it doesn't seem to *do* anything... Control+- flip err: .s/I have/I don't know what the cause of the/ Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message