Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Ross Cameron
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com wrote:

 Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?


You wont even et IA64 booting as that is a compilation for Itanium
processors.

For the 64bit enabled Xeon processors Intel licensed the AMD64 instruction
set.
Therefor the correct distro to use on this machine would be AMD64 or
i386 if you have a need to run 32bit software.


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RE: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

 
 Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?
 
 Len
 


This is a case where I wish the architecture types were renamed to modern day 
nomenclature. Most people outside the *nix world know i386 as the x86 
architecture and AMD64 as either x86-64 or straight x64. IA64 is for Itanium 
architecture only and will not work on any x86 or derrived architecture.

 

-Sean
  
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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread jhell


No you want: IA64 not AMD64

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:48, lconrad@ wrote:

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
 
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
 Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
 Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard

thanks,
Len


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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Roland Smith
Yes.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48:26PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:
 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:
 
 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
   
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14

You should be looking at the following line. LM means Long Mode, meaning it can
run 64-bit instructions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode];

   AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM

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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Diego F. Arias R.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM, jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:


 No you want: IA64 not AMD64

 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/



 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:48, lconrad@ wrote:

 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1

  
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
 real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
 avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
 ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
 ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard

 thanks,
 Len


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Why ia64 if its a XEON?

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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:08:23PM -0400, jhell wrote:
 
 No you want: IA64 not AMD64

No, he does not want that.  IA64 is for Intel's Itanium CPUs which are only
used in a few big servers and just about nowhere else.  The below is an
ordinary x86 CPU (which the Itanium most certainly is not.)

 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/
 
 
 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:48, lconrad@ wrote:
  the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:
 
  CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
   
  Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
   AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
   Logical CPUs per core: 2
  real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
  avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
  ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
  FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
  cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
  cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
  ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
  ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
  ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
  ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
  ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
  ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
  ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
  ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard
 
  thanks,
  Len
 
 
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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread jhell


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10, rsmith@ wrote:

Yes.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48:26PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14


You should be looking at the following line. LM means Long Mode, meaning it can
run 64-bit instructions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode];


  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM


Roland



My apologies to the original poster. I tend to usually mix up these two 
arch's for some reason or another. Thanks to the second poster for clearing 
that up.


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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread LoH
Get cpuid from /usr/ports/misc/cpuid and run it, that should give you a 
better idea of what your processor is. Although, from the string you 
gave, looks like a 'yes'. I think that's a nocona xeon (I have a pair of 
gallatins).


jhell wrote:


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10, rsmith@ wrote:

Yes.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48:26PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE 


  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14


You should be looking at the following line. LM means Long Mode, 
meaning it can

run 64-bit instructions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode];


  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM


Roland



My apologies to the original poster. I tend to usually mix up these 
two arch's for some reason or another. Thanks to the second poster for 
clearing that up.


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