Re: Linux compatibility
On 02/13/12 20:08, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get Linux running various applications to the. Brandelf was applied to the binaries. But any Linux application crashes at startup. freebsd-desk# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 21 0xc040 8c6d08 kernel 21 0xc0cc7000 4864 sem.ko 31 0xc41eb000 8000 linprocfs.ko 41 0xc41f3000 28000linux.ko 51 0xc44ae000 9000 i915.ko 61 0xc44b7000 15000drm.ko freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable=YES $ /usr/local/bin/linux-firefox /usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ /usr/local/bin/eagle /usr/local/share/eagle5/bin/eagle: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ googleearth ./googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: ./libge_net.so: undefined symbol: _ZNSbIwSt11char_traitsIwESaIwEE4_Rep20_S_empty_rep_storageE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 Does anyone a idea where is the mistake? I was going to wait and see if anyone else responded, but you are best off trying emulation@. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux compatibility
On 13 Feb 2012 at 21:01, Da Rock wrote: On 02/13/12 20:08, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get Linux running various applications to the. Brandelf was applied to the binaries. But any Linux application crashes at startup. freebsd-desk# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 21 0xc040 8c6d08 kernel 21 0xc0cc7000 4864 sem.ko 31 0xc41eb000 8000 linprocfs.ko 41 0xc41f3000 28000linux.ko 51 0xc44ae000 9000 i915.ko 61 0xc44b7000 15000drm.ko freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable=YES $ /usr/local/bin/linux-firefox /usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ /usr/local/bin/eagle /usr/local/share/eagle5/bin/eagle: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ googleearth ./googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: ./libge_net.so: undefined symbol: _ZNSbIwSt11char_traitsIwESaIwEE4_Rep20_S_empty_rep_storageE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 Does anyone a idea where is the mistake? I was going to wait and see if anyone else responded, but you are best off trying emulation@. Cheers Don't you have to install/load a module for Linux binary compatability to work in F'BSD? I seem to remember that being mentioned during a recent 8.something install. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux compatibility
On 13/02/2012 12:22, Dave wrote: On 13 Feb 2012 at 21:01, Da Rock wrote: On 02/13/12 20:08, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get Linux running various applications to the. Brandelf was applied to the binaries. But any Linux application crashes at startup. freebsd-desk# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 21 0xc040 8c6d08 kernel 21 0xc0cc7000 4864 sem.ko 31 0xc41eb000 8000 linprocfs.ko 41 0xc41f3000 28000linux.ko 51 0xc44ae000 9000 i915.ko 61 0xc44b7000 15000drm.ko freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable=YES $ /usr/local/bin/linux-firefox /usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ /usr/local/bin/eagle /usr/local/share/eagle5/bin/eagle: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ googleearth ./googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: ./libge_net.so: undefined symbol: _ZNSbIwSt11char_traitsIwESaIwEE4_Rep20_S_empty_rep_storageE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 Does anyone a idea where is the mistake? I was going to wait and see if anyone else responded, but you are best off trying emulation@. Cheers Don't you have to install/load a module for Linux binary compatability to work in F'BSD? I seem to remember that being mentioned during a recent 8.something install. Yes, you do. The module is called linux.ko and as you can see in the OP's kldstat listing, it is loaded. Usually that happens automatically, so it's quite rare to actually have to type 'kldload linux.ko' The undefined symbol errors suggest that the OP is missing some important linux shlibs which should be installed in /compat/linux/usr/lib -- what linuxbase port have you installed, and what distro did you obtain those linux executables from? Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Linux compatibility
Hello, On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:47:07 + Matthew Seaman wrote: The undefined symbol errors suggest that the OP is missing some important linux shlibs which should be installed in /compat/linux/usr/lib -- what linuxbase port have you installed, and what distro did you obtain those linux executables from? freebsd-desk# pkg_info -Ix linux linux-dri-7.4_1 linux-eagle5-5.11.0_1 linux-f10-alsa-lib-1.0.21_1 linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.21_2 linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0_1 linux-f10-curl-7.19.6_1 linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22_1 linux-f10-dbus-glib-0.76 linux-f10-dbus-libs-1.2.4 linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.11 linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7_3 linux-f10-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 linux-f10-jpeg-6b linux-f10-libasyncns-0.7 C linux-f10-libsigc++20-2.2.2 linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 linux-f10-libv4l-0.6.2 linux-f10-nspr-4.7.6 linux-f10-nss-3.12.3.99.3_1 linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g linux-f10-pango-1.28.3 linux-f10-png-1.2.37_1 linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 linux-firefox-10.0.1,1 linux-sun-jre-1.6.0.30 linux_base-f10-10_4 linuxdoc-1.1_1 freebsd-desk# cat /compat/linux/etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) Regards Silvio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux compatibility
Hello, On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:22:15 - Dave wrote: Don't you have to install/load a module for Linux binary compatability to work in F'BSD? I seem to remember that being mentioned during a recent 8.something install. I have load the kernel module with boot. freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable=YES freebsd-desk# cat /boot/loader.conf | grep linux linux_load=YES freebsd-desk# kldstat | grep linux 22 0xc0cc7000 2fc34linux.ko Regards Silvio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux compatibility
On 2/13/2012 11:52 AM, sie...@email.de wrote: Hello, On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:22:15 - Dave wrote: Don't you have to install/load a module for Linux binary compatability to work in F'BSD? I seem to remember that being mentioned during a recent 8.something install. I have load the kernel module with boot. freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable=YES freebsd-desk# cat /boot/loader.conf | grep linux linux_load=YES freebsd-desk# kldstat | grep linux 22 0xc0cc7000 2fc34linux.ko Regards Silvio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What does brandelf report for the executables? And what does env give you, and `sysctl -a | grep linux`? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux compatibility in FreeBSD
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:57:58 -0300 Leandro F Silva wrote: Does anyone know or already configured the linux compatibility in FreeBSD to install rpm packages and so on. hm, actually (almost) all linux applications are installed using RPM packages. Did you mean using linux RPM database? Actually I'm running the i386 7.2 FreeBSD and the following package. %pkg_info |grep linu linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) FYI: You may use `pkg_info -Ix linux_base` for this. I already saw the linux compatibility in the hand book of FreeBSD, but I didn't find too much information regarding rpm packages. Is there any way to do it ? any help is really welcome ! Using RPM database is not supported since FreeBSD has its own package database for all applications including linux ones. Said that I don't mean it doesn't work. If you need to use RPM database to register applications that does not exist at ports you may give it a try. But the best way is to create ports for those applications and install them from ports. BTW, they really don't need to exist at the official portstree. You may place them, say, to /usr/ports/local. A PR with them will be a good thing though. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:15:21 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. Yes, those ports install files with the sane name/path, so they have a conflict and can't be used/unstalled together. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. I don't use portmaster but you are first to complain. Can you show the output of pkg_info -xI linux? And also curious to know which linux* is better? Hm, it a good question. ;-) The one which does what you need. But there are some security problems (seems with pango ports) which won't be resolved for Fedora Core 4 ports (since there is no new fixed packages). with or without f8/f10? thank you!! It depends on your OS version and your tasks. The default (even for 8-CURRENT so far) is linux_base-fc4 and it's infrastructure ports. I think that for FreeBSD-6.x and lower there is no other alternative. For 7.2-RELEASE (and even better, 7-STABLE) one can use -f8- base and infrastructure ports. For recent 8-CURRENT one can use -f10- ports. There is a WIP to change this to default for 8-CURRENT. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:15:21 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. Yes, those ports install files with the sane name/path, so they have a conflict and can't be used/unstalled together. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. I don't use portmaster but you are first to complain. Can you show the output of pkg_info -xI linux? And also curious to know which linux* is better? Hm, it a good question. ;-) The one which does what you need. But there are some security problems (seems with pango ports) which won't be resolved for Fedora Core 4 ports (since there is no new fixed packages). with or without f8/f10? thank you!! It depends on your OS version and your tasks. The default (even for 8-CURRENT so far) is linux_base-fc4 and it's infrastructure ports. I think that for FreeBSD-6.x and lower there is no other alternative. For 7.2-RELEASE (and even better, 7-STABLE) one can use -f8- base and infrastructure ports. For recent 8-CURRENT one can use -f10- ports. There is a WIP to change this to default for 8-CURRENT. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
It's funny, sometimes I think portmaster knows that it should upgrade linux-f8* ports and not linux-* ports but sometimes doesn't. I don't know why... TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Tsu-Fan Cheng tfch...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:15:21 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. Yes, those ports install files with the sane name/path, so they have a conflict and can't be used/unstalled together. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. I don't use portmaster but you are first to complain. Can you show the output of pkg_info -xI linux? And also curious to know which linux* is better? Hm, it a good question. ;-) The one which does what you need. But there are some security problems (seems with pango ports) which won't be resolved for Fedora Core 4 ports (since there is no new fixed packages). with or without f8/f10? thank you!! It depends on your OS version and your tasks. The default (even for 8-CURRENT so far) is linux_base-fc4 and it's infrastructure ports. I think that for FreeBSD-6.x and lower there is no other alternative. For 7.2-RELEASE (and even better, 7-STABLE) one can use -f8- base and infrastructure ports. For recent 8-CURRENT one can use -f10- ports. There is a WIP to change this to default for 8-CURRENT. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:15:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of OK, you have a mix with FC4 and F8 ports. The best way for you is to remove all linux ports, clean /compat/linux and reinstall needed linux applications (i.e. linux-realplayer, acroread8, skype, etc.). and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. Yes, that may be a good choice for you. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
I see, can you tell me which are FC4 ports?? thanks!! TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:15:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of OK, you have a mix with FC4 and F8 ports. The best way for you is to remove all linux ports, clean /compat/linux and reinstall needed linux applications (i.e. linux-realplayer, acroread8, skype, etc.). and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. Yes, that may be a good choice for you. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:34:44 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: I see, can you tell me which are FC4 ports?? thanks!! Please, reread my previous email. I wrote _all_ linux ports. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:15:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of OK, you have a mix with FC4 and F8 ports. The best way for you is to remove all linux ports, clean /compat/linux and reinstall needed linux applications (i.e. linux-realplayer, acroread8, skype, etc.). and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. Yes, that may be a good choice for you. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility
--On October 17, 2007 8:56:32 PM -0700 andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to check which (if any) installed applications are dependent on linux compatibility? Thank you. Of course. man (1) pkginfo - pay special attention to -R E.g pkg_info -aR | grep linux | less Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: Linux compatibility mode - where do I get missing libraries?
On Tue, 29 May 2007 02:48:47 -0600 Lorin Lund wrote: I'm trying to install the free personal version of APLX from http://www.microapl.co.uk/apl/aplx_downloads.html but it complains about a missing library - something to do with jpeg. Where can I find linux libraries? Surprise! ;-) % whereis linux-jpeg linux-jpeg: /usr/ports/graphics/linux-jpeg WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compatibility
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 11:27:02PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote: I believe RELENG_5_2 has been discontinued, and replaced by RELENG_5_2_1 (if I'm wrong, someone correct me, please). Anyways, try cvsupping using either one, as at least one of them is bound to work. That's a bit confused. 5.2-RELEASE (ie. the collection of iso images and other installer bits and pieces on the FreeBSD ftp servers) has certainly been superceded by 5.2.1-RELEASE. Most FreeBSD mirrors will only carry a couple of recent releases due to space constraints so 5.2-RELEASE has mostly disappeared, but there are some places that archive older releases -- see http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php However the CVS tags you refer to don't work in that way. First of all, there isn't a RELENG_5_2_1 tag. There is a RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE tag which marks the state of the sources used to generate 5.2.1-RELEASE. Similarly there's a RELENG_5_2_0_RELEASE tag that does the same for 5.2-RELEASE. There is also a RELENG_5_2 *branch*. The distinction between a branch and a tag is important. Checking out sources using a tag will get you a snapshot of those sources at a particular point in time. You get the same set of sources each time you check out against that tag[1]. Checking out sources using a branch will get you the latest development version from that branch, so the checkouts will vary over time. Both 5.2-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE were generated from the RELENG_5_2 branch, which is a security branch that currently gets you 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9. In effect, 5.2.1-RELEASE is just another patchset against the RELENG_5_2 branch, except on a rather larger scale and fixing more significant problems than most patches. Cheers, Matthew [1] In principal. In practice a tag can be 'slid' to account for last minute changes, but that's unusual and only tends to happen quite soon after the tag is laid down. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpYXhlTWsR3u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Compatibility
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 11:27:02PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote: I believe RELENG_5_2 has been discontinued, and replaced by RELENG_5_2_1 (if I'm wrong, someone correct me, please). Anyways, try cvsupping using either one, as at least one of them is bound to work. That's a bit confused. 5.2-RELEASE (ie. the collection of iso images and other installer bits and pieces on the FreeBSD ftp servers) has certainly been superceded by 5.2.1-RELEASE. Most FreeBSD mirrors will only carry a couple of recent releases due to space constraints so 5.2-RELEASE has mostly disappeared, but there are some places that archive older releases -- see http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php However the CVS tags you refer to don't work in that way. First of all, there isn't a RELENG_5_2_1 tag. There is a RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE tag which marks the state of the sources used to generate 5.2.1-RELEASE. Similarly there's a RELENG_5_2_0_RELEASE tag that does the same for 5.2-RELEASE. There is also a RELENG_5_2 *branch*. The distinction between a branch and a tag is important. Checking out sources using a tag will get you a snapshot of those sources at a particular point in time. You get the same set of sources each time you check out against that tag[1]. Checking out sources using a branch will get you the latest development version from that branch, so the checkouts will vary over time. Both 5.2-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE were generated from the RELENG_5_2 branch, which is a security branch that currently gets you 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9. In effect, 5.2.1-RELEASE is just another patchset against the RELENG_5_2 branch, except on a rather larger scale and fixing more significant problems than most patches. Cheers, Matthew [1] In principal. In practice a tag can be 'slid' to account for last minute changes, but that's unusual and only tends to happen quite soon after the tag is laid down. Thanks for the clarification! CVS as a concept is much like women - just when I think I've got it figured out, I am proven otherwise. Oh, well. ;-) -Henrik W Lund ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compatibility
Girish L wrote: Hi I have a freeBSD 5.2-CURRENT version running on a intel dual processor machine. I need to turn the LINUX COMPATBILITY ON, but unfortunately the source code for this version is not on the system. If I do a sysinstall to obtain the source code, the system fails to find the matching version and if i set the option to any release or download any other version (say 5.2.1-RELEASE) and modfiy the Kernel Configuration file GENERIC to add the option COMPAT_LINUX, I get a error on running config(8). this error points about a version mismatch Can anyone point me to the source code for 5.2-CURRENT release or help me add the linux compatibility option and turn the linux compatibility ON. Thanks for any help in this regard Girish Greetings!! I believe RELENG_5_2 has been discontinued, and replaced by RELENG_5_2_1 (if I'm wrong, someone correct me, please). Anyways, try cvsupping using either one, as at least one of them is bound to work. If this sounds cryptic to you, read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html If you are looking for -CURRENT, the tag to use is . (yes, a period). -Henrik W Lund ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compatibility and Folding@Home
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 20:36, Loren M. Lang wrote: I was trying to run a Linux program called [EMAIL PROTECTED] in FreeBSD, but it doesn't seem to want to load. I have a version compiled for glibc 2.2 I believe, but when I run it in bsd, I get the error message: ELF binary type 0 not known. Abort trap I have never tried this particular program, so I can't say if it will work for sure, but I see no reason why it shouldn't. Try doing an 'brandelf -t Linux file' and run it again. This will let FreeBSD know that it's a Linux binary. That was using version 3.x of [EMAIL PROTECTED] They also have a glibc 2.3 version, but that also fails: ./FAH3Console-LinuxB.exe: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by ./FAH3Console-LinuxB.exe) If you need glibc 2.3 then you need to install the 'emulation/linux_base-8' port, this is the equivalent to a RedHat 8 base system, rather than the RedHat 7 base you have installed now. Seeya...Q ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Compatibility and Folding@Home
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 08:54:39PM +1000, Q wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 20:36, Loren M. Lang wrote: I was trying to run a Linux program called [EMAIL PROTECTED] in FreeBSD, but it doesn't seem to want to load. I have a version compiled for glibc 2.2 I believe, but when I run it in bsd, I get the error message: ELF binary type 0 not known. Abort trap I have never tried this particular program, so I can't say if it will work for sure, but I see no reason why it shouldn't. Try doing an 'brandelf -t Linux file' and run it again. This will let FreeBSD know that it's a Linux binary. It worked! I'm assuming this actually modifies the elf file, is it still compatible with linux, and is this a common problem or just for certain rare executable? That was using version 3.x of [EMAIL PROTECTED] They also have a glibc 2.3 version, but that also fails: ./FAH3Console-LinuxB.exe: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by ./FAH3Console-LinuxB.exe) If you need glibc 2.3 then you need to install the 'emulation/linux_base-8' port, this is the equivalent to a RedHat 8 base system, rather than the RedHat 7 base you have installed now. I'll try it. Seeya...Q !DSPAM:3fffdb41195678470827837! -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Compatibility and Folding@Home
+-le 10/01/04 02:36 -0800, Loren M. Lang écrivait : | I was trying to run a Linux program called [EMAIL PROTECTED] in FreeBSD, but | it doesn't seem to want to load. I have a version compiled for | glibc 2.2 I believe, but when I run it in bsd, I get the error message: | | ELF binary type 0 not known. | Abort trap | | That was using version 3.x of [EMAIL PROTECTED] They also have a glibc 2.3 version, | but that also fails: | | ./FAH3Console-LinuxB.exe: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found | (required by ./FAH3Console-LinuxB.exe) You should : brandelf -t Linux FAH* and you *should* use ./FAH... -freebsd -- Mathieu Arnold ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux compatibility
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 06:22:29PM -0800, danu kusmana wrote: Hi guys, My probs is I wanna add flash plugins to my mozilla, buat the default ports frebsd gave is an old one and it always make my mozilla hang if I open a web page. I have www/flashpluginwrapper installed and flash works very nice in Firebird. After installation, follow the instructions too... Hope that helps Gautam ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
Just thought I'd post this in response to where replies should go: From How to Get the Best results from FreeBSD-Questions 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. Charles Pelletier Tech. Coordinator St Luke's School To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:12:37 -0500 Charles Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. just to note, the only reason i'd mentioned that is because i was told, numerous times, that this is how things are preferred here. it made sense, to an extent, particularly for those using clients like pine. on usenet, it's as above, but when i'd first joined the lists (6+ months ago), i received several emails telling me not to. in any case, the one error on my part isn't the point. the point is, 25 quotes lines with what amounts to a me too response is just rediculous. sorry if that ruffles anyone's feathers, but last i checked, nobody particularly appreciated those types of mails. to the original person i was replying to, however: i did not mean for my message to be interpreted as saying *you* are rude, as a person..merely that those kinds of posts are needlessly full of unnecessary junk, which is annoying due to slower download times to receive mail, readability, etc, ad nauseam. yes, i made a mistake on the top/bottom quoting thing: i hadn't seen the line that mr. pelletier brought up, and again, i was only going by what i was told numerous times before. i'd also like to give thanks to the multiple copies of each email i was sent, particularly from daleco, who felt his/her point was so important to express to me, i needed to read it no less than 4 times. - erk! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: linux compatibility in 4.7
Monday, October 21, 2002, 9:51:46 PM, you wrote: Hi During my install of 4.7-RELEASE I selected Linux compatibility. I saw a message saying that it was istalling 6.1_3. I was surprised, and a little bit miffed, because 4.7 was supposed to have upgraded Linux compatibility to 7.1. After the install, I checked on what packages where installed and I saw linux_base-6.1_3 *AND* linux_base-7.1_1! Now I am confused. Are there actually two packages? I would have thought that 7.1 would be backward compatible, so a 6.1 would not be necessary. Is that not the case? Can anyone explain, and maybe shed some further light on this? Thanks! (c) Copyright 2002 John Daniels. All rights reserved. _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Dear John, I'm not sure, but my guess is that linux_base-6.1_3 isn't necessary and got installed by some form of minor bug. -- Best regards, Alex The FreeBSD handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html How to get the best results from FreeBSD-Questions http://www.lemis.com/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting, and put your reply above the quote. we shouldn't have to scroll through 20 rows of text, including the entirety of the original post, just to see your reply. cutting out the MSN ad would've been nice, too. i don't even use a console-only mail reader anymore, and i still find this to be incredibly rude. a good rule of thumb: if the text you're quoting is larger than your reply, rethink it or don't post it. - erk Dear John, I'm not sure, but my guess is that linux_base-6.1_3 isn't necessary and got installed by some form of minor bug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-25 09:41:00 -0700: in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting, agreed. and put your reply above the quote. whoa! not agreed unless you're posting to a mailing list read exclusively by people used to reading from bottom to top. are *you* used to reading books from right to left? Dear John, I'm not sure, but my guess is that linux_base-6.1_3 isn't necessary and got installed by some form of minor bug. -- If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely ignore your message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
and put your reply above the quote. we shouldn't have to scroll through 20 rows of text, including the entirety of the original post, just to see your reply. You have that one backwards. Text should flow logically from top to bottom starting with original post (appropriately trimmed) through relevant other responses (again appropriately trimmed) down to the most recent response. cutting out the MSN ad would've been nice, too. That would be nice. jerry - erk Dear John, To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
Hello/Beste erk!, Friday, October 25, 2002, 6:41:00 PM, you wrote: in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting The text it self wasn't that large. So i don't think this is wrong. Plus I that leaving it would give someone else a better change at understanding the question. (http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer see number 7) , and put your reply above the quote. There is a document (about these specific mailing lists) that suggest to put it at the bottom. (I'll continue doing so.) I feel it would be better to simply place them at the bottom. (http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer see number 9) The same document suggest not to put these kind of mail on the list. (http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer see number 11) we shouldn't have to scroll through 20 rows of text, including the entirety of the original post, just to see your reply. cutting out the MSN ad would've been nice, too. I agree on the MSN part. i don't even use a console-only mail reader anymore, and i still find this to be incredibly rude. I thought i was friendly, not rude!! a good rule of thumb: if the text you're quoting is larger than your reply, rethink it or don't post it. There are a lot of detailed questions with simple answers. I don't see way this couldn't apply to this one. I waited a couple of days (just as a other writing suggested) for someone to come up with a better answer. Since no one did I gave my thoughts. (http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer number 5) Nobody is perfect. This include you and me! I feel that you make to much fuss out of this. -- Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
