Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"??

2007-04-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 11:13:52PM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Sunday 29 April 2007 03:55:04 you wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> > Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab.  But then what?
> > Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror??
> 
> In the list on the left? I bet it's also in some file, but that's what I do 
> if 
> I want to change default viewer for certain mime types. The "search for file 
> pattern" is useful. Agreed, it helps if you know what to look for. Seems to 
> me that googling for 'realplayer mimetypes' or something would be a start. 
> Sorry that I can't easily present you with a complete list.
> 
> > > Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil,
> > > vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones.
> > > If you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a
> > > oddly mime-ified stream that wont play.
> >
> > I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server.  Maybe I'll
> > just scp it over and see.
> 
> My first guess would be that that's for your unix account's email. KDE 
> settings and resource files are under ~/.kde/shared
> 
> > > There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the
> > > plugin that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in
> > > the webpage but at least it does support moving back and forth in the
> > > stream. To make this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an
> > > appropriate libmap.conf.
> >
> > Well getting  the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the
> > linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter!
> > Do you have one to send?   Or anyone else on-list?
> 
> 
> The only Realvideo stream I regularly watch is DemocracyNow. It's perfectly 
> possible that their setup is weird or even that their "streaming solution" 
> tries to not serve non-official clients, such as mplayer. It's hard to tell. 
> I'd say that if it doesnt play in realplayer it wont play in mplayer either.
> 

[[ save the electrons ]]


Well, long-story-shory, I set up everything to grab the 
/usr/X11R6/bin/realplay binary, but *still*, if I click on
the "Real Audio" stream, Konqueror pops up a list at me
that includes "Multimedia" and several other broswer-things.
After I type in "realplay" (or the full path), yes, the
linuxplugin doees appear. 

After two hours of fooling around, realplay does work, but it 
is not fully automatic.  But I'm just happy that using the 
KDE tools that almosteverything Just-Works!   

thanks for your help, Dan.  Appreciate it.

chow fer niao,

gary

PS:  Someday maybe I'll know enough to be able to write up 
 a tutorial [with graphics].  If I tried that *now* 
 I'd almost certainly screw things up completely and 
 there would be even more dents in the concrete outside!


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Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"??

2007-04-29 Thread Danny Pansters
On Sunday 29 April 2007 03:55:04 you wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> > On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
> > >   I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
> > >   playing with various window managers (aka "desktops"). Stuck.
> > >   To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
> > >
> > >   A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
> > >   I tried the KDE broswer to stream video.  And after several
> > >   tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror.  It streams windows
> > >   video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
> > >   backend).  But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
> > >   real-audio.  After a few hours of poking around the web and
> > >   trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
> > >
> > >   I've reached the "File Association" -> "Audio" and to
> > >   "x-pn-realplay" {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
> > >   Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
> > >   .ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
> > >
> > >   thanks for any help!
> > >
> > >
> > >   gary
> >
> > First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must
> > have the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a
> > bitch. But it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in
> > konqueror's config and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types
> > with. And for embedding (the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or
> > whatsitcalled as the first or only.
>
>   Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab.  But then what?
>   Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror??

In the list on the left? I bet it's also in some file, but that's what I do if 
I want to change default viewer for certain mime types. The "search for file 
pattern" is useful. Agreed, it helps if you know what to look for. Seems to 
me that googling for 'realplayer mimetypes' or something would be a start. 
Sorry that I can't easily present you with a complete list.

> > Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil,
> > vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones.
> > If you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a
> > oddly mime-ified stream that wont play.
>
>   I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server.  Maybe I'll
>   just scp it over and see.

My first guess would be that that's for your unix account's email. KDE 
settings and resource files are under ~/.kde/shared

> > There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the
> > plugin that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in
> > the webpage but at least it does support moving back and forth in the
> > stream. To make this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an
> > appropriate libmap.conf.
>
>   Well getting  the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the
>   linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter!
>   Do you have one to send?   Or anyone else on-list?

I have this for Real plugin:

###
# Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase
[/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so]
libstdc++.so.5  libstdc++.so.5
libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/realplayer.so
libm.so.6   libm.so.4
libgcc_s.so.1   pluginwrapper/realplayer.so


> > Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the
> > earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because
> > it can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if
> > something with Real doesn't work I can always try to "Open with.."
> > realplayer instead.
> >
>   :-)
>
>   I do the open-with and it starts to work/tries to, then hangs.
>   I'd just like to be able to watch the BBC/PBS stuff and listen to
>   Windose or Real streams without too much hassle!

The only Realvideo stream I regularly watch is DemocracyNow. It's perfectly 
possible that their setup is weird or even that their "streaming solution" 
tries to not serve non-official clients, such as mplayer. It's hard to tell. 
I'd say that if it doesnt play in realplayer it wont play in mplayer either.

Dan

>
> > HTH,
>
>   So far, so good, thankee!
>
>   gary
>
> > Dan
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Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"??

2007-04-28 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
> > I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
> > playing with various window managers (aka "desktops"). Stuck.
> > To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
> >
> > A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
> > I tried the KDE broswer to stream video.  And after several
> > tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror.  It streams windows
> > video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
> > backend).  But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
> > real-audio.  After a few hours of poking around the web and
> > trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
> >
> > I've reached the "File Association" -> "Audio" and to
> > "x-pn-realplay" {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
> > Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
> > .ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
> >
> > thanks for any help!
> >
> >
> > gary
> 
> First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must have 
> the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a bitch. But 
> it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in konqueror's config 
> and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types with. And for embedding 
> (the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or whatsitcalled as the first or only.


Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab.  But then what?
Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror??  
> 
> Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil, 
> vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. If 
> you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a oddly 
> mime-ified stream that wont play.
> 

I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server.  Maybe I'll 
just scp it over and see.


> There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the plugin 
> that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in the webpage 
> but at least it does support moving back and forth in the stream. To make 
> this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an appropriate libmap.conf.

Well getting  the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the 
linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter!
Do you have one to send?   Or anyone else on-list?

> 
> Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the 
> earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because it 
> can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if something 
> with Real doesn't work I can always try to "Open with.." realplayer instead.


:-)

I do the open-with and it starts to work/tries to, then hangs.
I'd just like to be able to watch the BBC/PBS stuff and listen to
Windose or Real streams without too much hassle!  

> 
> HTH,

So far, so good, thankee!

gary

> 
> Dan
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Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"??

2007-04-28 Thread Danny Pansters
On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
>   I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
>   playing with various window managers (aka "desktops"). Stuck.
>   To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
>
>   A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
>   I tried the KDE broswer to stream video.  And after several
>   tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror.  It streams windows
>   video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
>   backend).  But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
>   real-audio.  After a few hours of poking around the web and
>   trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
>
>   I've reached the "File Association" -> "Audio" and to
>   "x-pn-realplay" {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
>   Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
>   .ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
>
>   thanks for any help!
>
>
>   gary

First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must have 
the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a bitch. But 
it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in konqueror's config 
and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types with. And for embedding 
(the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or whatsitcalled as the first or only.

Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil, 
vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. If 
you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a oddly 
mime-ified stream that wont play.

There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the plugin 
that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in the webpage 
but at least it does support moving back and forth in the stream. To make 
this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an appropriate libmap.conf.

Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the 
earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because it 
can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if something 
with Real doesn't work I can always try to "Open with.." realplayer instead.

HTH,

Dan
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