Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-22 Thread Steve Bertrand
Andrew Gould wrote:

 Yes, it's probably time to move to certificates.  Thanks for the suggestion.

If you realize this, then you also want to look at devising an
allow-allow-deny_by_default approach for other critical protocols that
you can't employ certificates for...

Instead of blocking huge netblocks with your firewall (possibly causing
a denial of service on legitimate hosts), it's easier and more resource
friendly to create access rules that deny by default in ANY case. (Those
who provide transit or hosting services can obviously ignore this).

Steve
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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.  I
obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the beginning
and ending date/times and the originating IP address.

Is there any other information I need to send?


i don't think so.
anyway - if all password are well made still there is no problem.

 Is there someone else I

should notify?


i don't think so.


Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block the
network range found via 'whois'.


it's good solution, mostly because those in ab...@* often simply ignore 
such mails.

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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Gould wrote:


What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
break-in attempt?

My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port  
22.


So source of these is almost always some other compromised Unix-like  
system.



I obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported
the beginning and ending date/times and the originating IP address.


When reporting the times, be sure to make the time zone clear.

Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone  
else I

should notify?


There's no general answer to that.  It really depends the specifics of  
the case.  For example, a small business might have a small netblock  
and an abuse address, but aren't competent to deal with your  
notification.  Think of a small business that has a bunch of Window's  
clients and one ancient RedHat system that hasn't been maintained for  
years and was set up by someone who doesn't work there anymore.  In  
that case, it might be useful to inform their provider as well.


Back when I used to report these things, I had a template message for  
doing so.


Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just  
block the

network range found via 'whois'.


If you block, and your firewall will log the failed attempts, then you  
may also look at participating in DShield


  http://www.dshield.org/howto.html

Cheers,

-j

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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread GESBBB
 From: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com
 
 What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
 break-in attempt?
 
 My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.  I
 obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the beginning
 and ending date/times and the originating IP address.
 
 Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone else I
 should notify?
 
 Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block the
 network range found via 'whois'.  In this case, the IP address is fairly
 local, so I'm hesitant to block the entire range.

There are some applications that you might want to install that can help. 
Personally, I have found reporting the abuse virtually useless. I use to just 
include the entire log with the data that pertained to the user in question; 
however, that just proved a waste of time.

If you are using 'passwords' to access your account, you might want to consider 
using certificates instead. That is far safer than using a password that 
eventually can be cracked.

-- 
Jerry
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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, GESBBB ges...@yahoo.com wrote:

  From: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com
 
  What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
  break-in attempt?
 
  My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.
 I
  obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the
 beginning
  and ending date/times and the originating IP address.
 
  Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone else I
  should notify?
 
  Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block
 the
  network range found via 'whois'.  In this case, the IP address is fairly
  local, so I'm hesitant to block the entire range.

 There are some applications that you might want to install that can help.
 Personally, I have found reporting the abuse virtually useless. I use to
 just include the entire log with the data that pertained to the user in
 question; however, that just proved a waste of time.

 If you are using 'passwords' to access your account, you might want to
 consider using certificates instead. That is far safer than using a password
 that eventually can be cracked.

 --
 Jerry


Yes, it's probably time to move to certificates.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Andrew
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