Re: pwd.db too big for / partition
On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: my / partition has only 73.196 Mbytes available and since I have 22.000 users, I now cannot change anyone´s password.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd marcelo.maraboli Changing local password for marcelo.maraboli New Password: Retype New Password: /: write failed, filesystem is full pwd_mkdb: write old: No space left on device passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module How can I rezise the / partition or move the spwb.db and pwd.db files to another partition ?? (each of them is 44 Mbytes) You certainly don't want to move the password files out of /etc-- you'll render the machine unbootable as it needs to find them on the root partition. The only approach I see which is likely to be workable would be to backup the system, repartition the disks with a larger root partition, and restore from backups. However, in theory, if you had free disk space, you could use growfs to expand the root partition without repartitioning, but I am dubious about using that command against /. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pwd.db too big for / partition
Chuck Swiger writes: However, in theory, if you had free disk space, you could use growfs to expand the root partition without repartitioning, but I am dubious about using that command against /. Certainly, the consequences if Something Went Horribly Wrong(tm) would be quite painful. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pwd.db too big for / partition
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:39:18AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: my / partition has only 73.196 Mbytes available and since I have 22.000 users, I now cannot change anyone?s password.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd marcelo.maraboli Changing local password for marcelo.maraboli New Password: Retype New Password: /: write failed, filesystem is full pwd_mkdb: write old: No space left on device passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module How can I rezise the / partition or move the spwb.db and pwd.db files to another partition ?? (each of them is 44 Mbytes) You certainly don't want to move the password files out of /etc-- you'll render the machine unbootable as it needs to find them on the root partition. The only approach I see which is likely to be workable would be to backup the system, repartition the disks with a larger root partition, and restore from backups. I agree. However, in theory, if you had free disk space, you could use growfs to expand the root partition without repartitioning, but I am dubious about using that command against /. I believe, with growfs, the space that you add must be contiguous with the partition it is joining. So, unless there is a partition that could be shrunk next to root, (maybe swap is there) it wouldn't work. If there is room - maybe by mucking with swap if it is the next partition, then it might be do-able. But, I would also be leary of doing it with /. jerry -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pwd.db too big for / partition
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:39:18AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: my / partition has only 73.196 Mbytes available and since I have 22.000 users, I now cannot change anyone?s password.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd marcelo.maraboli Changing local password for marcelo.maraboli New Password: Retype New Password: /: write failed, filesystem is full pwd_mkdb: write old: No space left on device passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module How can I rezise the / partition or move the spwb.db and pwd.db files to another partition ?? (each of them is 44 Mbytes) You certainly don't want to move the password files out of /etc-- you'll render the machine unbootable as it needs to find them on the root partition. The only approach I see which is likely to be workable would be to backup the system, repartition the disks with a larger root partition, and restore from backups. I agree. However, in theory, if you had free disk space, you could use growfs to expand the root partition without repartitioning, but I am dubious about using that command against /. I believe, with growfs, the space that you add must be contiguous with the partition it is joining. So, unless there is a partition that could be shrunk next to root, (maybe swap is there) it wouldn't work. If there is room - maybe by mucking with swap if it is the next partition, then it might be do-able. But, I would also be leary of doing it with /. jerry -- -Chuck Well, I had a VM laying around so thought to fire it up and do some testing. I know this is absurd abit but I wanted to see the effect of doing symlinks with pwd.db files. - I was able to copy /etc/pwd.db /etc/spwd.db to /var/etc/ - Then I deleted /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db - created ln -s /var/etc/pwd.db /etc/pwd.db and ln -s /var/etc/spwd.db /etc/spwd.db - changed the root password, worked! - Even rebooted the system and was able to successfully able to login - All worked fine except, I noticed after running passwd to reset a user password, the system copied pwd.db and spwd.db over the symlinks so I always was ending up with /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db files I guess this method will solve your space problem if there is a way to make the system follow the symlink instead of overwriting it everytime a password is changed/created. Tamouh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pwd.db too big for / partition
On Mar 19, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Tamouh H. wrote: Well, I had a VM laying around so thought to fire it up and do some testing. I know this is absurd abit but I wanted to see the effect of doing symlinks with pwd.db files. - I was able to copy /etc/pwd.db /etc/spwd.db to /var/etc/ - Then I deleted /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db - created ln -s /var/etc/pwd.db /etc/pwd.db and ln -s /var/etc/ spwd.db /etc/spwd.db - changed the root password, worked! - Even rebooted the system and was able to successfully able to login I invite you to repeat the experiment when there is an issue with / var which prevents it from being mounted cleanly until, say, a manual fsck is completed :-/ -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pwd.db too big for / partition
I have moved my root partition on one server. I copied the entire partition to a new partition on a different drive using cpio as I wanted /dev moved too. At the time this was running 4.x. After moving the root partition I rebooted and made sure the new partition was still fine. Then I changed both /etc/fstab files to mount the new root, and gave the old root a new mount point. On the root of the old root I added a boot.config file to tell the loader the correct drive and slice to boot from. After another reboot, I was using the new root partition. I keep the old one there for the boot.config. It like your's is too small do much else with given the huge drives we install these days. As for your old root, you should try to clear any space you can. I would look for any log files you can purge, etc, to get some working space. -Derek At 09:54 AM 3/19/2007, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: Hi my / partition has only 73.196 Mbytes available and since I have 22.000 users, I now cannot change anyone´s password.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd marcelo.maraboli Changing local password for marcelo.maraboli New Password: Retype New Password: /: write failed, filesystem is full pwd_mkdb: write old: No space left on device passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module How can I rezise the / partition or move the spwb.db and pwd.db files to another partition ?? (each of them is 44 Mbytes) thanks. -- MSc. Marcelo Maraboli Rosselott Jefe Area de Redes y Comunicaciones (Network UNIX Systems Engineer) Ingeniero Civil Electronico, CISSP (Electronic Engineer, CISSP, MSc.) Direccion Central de Servicios Computacionales (DCSC) Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria phone: +56 32 2654071 Chile.http://www.usm.cl http://elqui.dcsc.utfsm.cl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pwd.db too big for / partition
Tamouh H. wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:39:18AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: my / partition has only 73.196 Mbytes available and since I have 22.000 users, I now cannot change anyone?s password.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd marcelo.maraboli Changing local password for marcelo.maraboli New Password: Retype New Password: /: write failed, filesystem is full pwd_mkdb: write old: No space left on device passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module How can I rezise the / partition or move the spwb.db and pwd.db files to another partition ?? (each of them is 44 Mbytes) You certainly don't want to move the password files out of /etc-- you'll render the machine unbootable as it needs to find them on the root partition. The only approach I see which is likely to be workable would be to backup the system, repartition the disks with a larger root partition, and restore from backups. I agree. However, in theory, if you had free disk space, you could use growfs to expand the root partition without repartitioning, but I am dubious about using that command against /. I believe, with growfs, the space that you add must be contiguous with the partition it is joining. So, unless there is a partition that could be shrunk next to root, (maybe swap is there) it wouldn't work. If there is room - maybe by mucking with swap if it is the next partition, then it might be do-able. But, I would also be leary of doing it with /. jerry -- -Chuck Well, I had a VM laying around so thought to fire it up and do some testing. I know this is absurd abit but I wanted to see the effect of doing symlinks with pwd.db files. - I was able to copy /etc/pwd.db /etc/spwd.db to /var/etc/ - Then I deleted /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db - created ln -s /var/etc/pwd.db /etc/pwd.db and ln -s /var/etc/spwd.db /etc/spwd.db - changed the root password, worked! - Even rebooted the system and was able to successfully able to login - All worked fine except, I noticed after running passwd to reset a user password, the system copied pwd.db and spwd.db over the symlinks so I always was ending up with /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db files I guess this method will solve your space problem if there is a way to make the system follow the symlink instead of overwriting it everytime a password is changed/created. Tamouh Thanks Tamouh for the test ! I did think of this, but after testing WHY changing a password resulted in no space available, I realized that FreeBSD updates the /etc/master.passwd file, makes a backup copy of the 2 .db files, then runs pwd_mkdb, which creates new .db files and finally it erases the 2 backup .db. So, since each .db is 44Mbytes, in the middle of the process I have 4 x 44 Mbyte files which cannot fit into 73Mbytes available space. Since it remakes the .db files, it steps on top of your symlinks I'm realizing that I'll have to install the system again in a separate disk, and then plug it into my server and mount the original disks as other partitions and copy the config files.. thanks. -- MSc. Marcelo Maraboli Rosselott Jefe Area de Redes y Comunicaciones (Network UNIX Systems Engineer) Ingeniero Civil Electronico, CISSP (Electronic Engineer, CISSP, MSc.) Direccion Central de Servicios Computacionales (DCSC) Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria phone: +56 32 2654071 Chile.http://www.usm.cl http://elqui.dcsc.utfsm.cl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
