Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-25 Thread GiL A. Virtucio
:) just another comment about quotas in emails.. (though its also not for 
sendmail) you might also want to check QMAIL. theres a very nice 
installation guide for FreeBSD in http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/  you'll 
just have to follow the step-by-step installation and in the end you'll have 
a nice web-based interface for maintaining users/virtual domains, with 
spam/virus filtering and other stuff :)



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- Original Message - 
From: patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: quota and /var/mail


If you want to only have one set of quotas, you might consider
switching to a Postfix/Maildir setup where your users' inboxes will be
located in their home folder rather than in /var/mail.

It's a fairly easy switch: install Postfix from
/usr/ports/mail/postfix, and then you just need to configure one line
in your Postfix's main.cf to turn on Maildir support:

http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#maildir

Though, there might be a bit of a learning curve with respect to the
differences between Sendmail and Postfix to convert the rest of your
configuration over. It all depends on how complicated your current
setup is.

Patrick


On 5/23/06, Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Mike,

  Thank you again for your support, this is the output of mount and fstab

# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/ad0s1e /tmpufs rw  2   2
/dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw,userquota,groupquota
2   2
/dev/ad0s1g /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
$ mount
/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, with quotas, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1g on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
procfs on /proc (procfs, local)

I just want the quota to read the Shell user (home directory) size plus 
the

INBOX mails
which stay in /var/mail/$UserName

  Currently the quota reads the home directory and ignores the $inbox
  Thak you mike

  Marwan

At 07:37 PM 21/05/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:


  No when I enabled quota I did the configuration on /usr
  shall i enable it on /var to?
  then how to make the sendmail or the shell reads the user quota on his
home directory and
  his /var/mail/$username ?


Hi,
 It all depends on how you have it mounted.  Quotas follow the
partition. So if you have /var/mail as its own partition, you need to do 
it
there. If you have /var/mail as a subdirectory of /var than do it on 
/var.


What is the contents of /etc/fstab on the box ?

  if webmin can read the home directory quota and add to it the
/var/mail/$userInbox size
  then for sure I can do it some how?

I dont use webmin so I am not sure how it calculates things.

 ---Mike

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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-25 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

patrick wrote:


It's a fairly easy switch: install Postfix from
/usr/ports/mail/postfix, and then you just need to configure one line
in your Postfix's main.cf to turn on Maildir support:

http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#maildir

Though, there might be a bit of a learning curve with respect to the
differences between Sendmail and Postfix to convert the rest of your
configuration over. It all depends on how complicated your current
setup is.


O'Reilly does a great Postfix book and there are lots of FAQ's out 
there.  If you have experience of mail admin then postfix is dead easy 
to pick up.


--Alex


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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-24 Thread patrick

If you want to only have one set of quotas, you might consider
switching to a Postfix/Maildir setup where your users' inboxes will be
located in their home folder rather than in /var/mail.

It's a fairly easy switch: install Postfix from
/usr/ports/mail/postfix, and then you just need to configure one line
in your Postfix's main.cf to turn on Maildir support:

http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#maildir

Though, there might be a bit of a learning curve with respect to the
differences between Sendmail and Postfix to convert the rest of your
configuration over. It all depends on how complicated your current
setup is.

Patrick


On 5/23/06, Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Mike,

  Thank you again for your support, this is the output of mount and fstab

# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/ad0s1e /tmpufs rw  2   2
/dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw,userquota,groupquota
2   2
/dev/ad0s1g /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
$ mount
/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, with quotas, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1g on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
procfs on /proc (procfs, local)

I just want the quota to read the Shell user (home directory) size plus the
INBOX mails
which stay in /var/mail/$UserName

  Currently the quota reads the home directory and ignores the $inbox
  Thak you mike

  Marwan

At 07:37 PM 21/05/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:


  No when I enabled quota I did the configuration on /usr
  shall i enable it on /var to?
  then how to make the sendmail or the shell reads the user quota on his
home directory and
  his /var/mail/$username ?


Hi,
 It all depends on how you have it mounted.  Quotas follow the
partition. So if you have /var/mail as its own partition, you need to do it
there. If you have /var/mail as a subdirectory of /var than do it on /var.

What is the contents of /etc/fstab on the box ?

  if webmin can read the home directory quota and add to it the
/var/mail/$userInbox size
  then for sure I can do it some how?

I dont use webmin so I am not sure how it calculates things.

 ---Mike

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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:02:44 -0700, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:

If you want to only have one set of quotas, you might consider
switching to a Postfix/Maildir setup where your users' inboxes will be
located in their home folder rather than in /var/mail.

It's a fairly easy switch: install Postfix from
/usr/ports/mail/postfix, and then you just need to configure one line
in your Postfix's main.cf to turn on Maildir support:

http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#maildir

Though, there might be a bit of a learning curve with respect to the
differences between Sendmail and Postfix to convert the rest of your
configuration over. It all depends on how complicated your current
setup is.

Maildir is certainly a better way to go.  If you want to stick with
sendmail, you can also use procmail as your LDA.  However, again, it
requires a bit of learning as it works differently.

---Mike

Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net
Providing Internet Access since 1994
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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-23 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello Mike,

 Thank you again for your support, this is the output of mount and fstab

# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#

/dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/ad0s1e /tmpufs rw  2   2
/dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw,userquota,groupquota  
   2   2

/dev/ad0s1g /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
$ mount
/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, with quotas, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1g on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
procfs on /proc (procfs, local)

I just want the quota to read the Shell user (home directory) size plus the 
INBOX mails

which stay in /var/mail/$UserName

 Currently the quota reads the home directory and ignores the $inbox
 Thak you mike

 Marwan


At 07:37 PM 21/05/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:



 No when I enabled quota I did the configuration on /usr
 shall i enable it on /var to?
 then how to make the sendmail or the shell reads the user quota on his 
home directory and

 his /var/mail/$username ?



Hi,
It all depends on how you have it mounted.  Quotas follow the 
partition. So if you have /var/mail as its own partition, you need to do it 
there. If you have /var/mail as a subdirectory of /var than do it on /var.


What is the contents of /etc/fstab on the box ?

 if webmin can read the home directory quota and add to it the 
/var/mail/$userInbox size

 then for sure I can do it some how?


I dont use webmin so I am not sure how it calculates things.

---Mike

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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 07:43 PM 23/05/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:


# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/ad0s1e /tmpufs rw  2   2
/dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw,userquota,groupquota
   2   2
/dev/ad0s1g /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
$ mount
/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, with quotas, soft-updates)
/dev/ad0s1g on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
procfs on /proc (procfs, local)


Hi,
You want to make sure /var/mail is mounted with quotas 
enabled as well.

The line in /etc/fstab should read

/dev/ad0s1g /varufs 
rw,userquota,groupquota  2   2


Make the change and then reboot and you will have quotas enforced on 
/var/mail as well.


---Mike 


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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-21 Thread Marwan Sultan



Hello Mike,

 Thank you for your answer, as im stuck on this point and lost with my 
users,

 beside none answering this question on the list!

 No when I enabled quota I did the configuration on /usr
 shall i enable it on /var to?
 then how to make the sendmail or the shell reads the user quota on his 
home directory and

 his /var/mail/$username ?

 When i check my webmin, the section of read user mail will give you the 
total amount

 of user useage (including /var/mail/$userInbox)
 but if i go to quota in my webmin it will show only home directory quota.
 I'm telling you this information, not because i care about webmin, but i 
ment to say
 if webmin can read the home directory quota and add to it the 
/var/mail/$userInbox size

 then for sure I can do it some how?

 Please Advise.

 Marwan


On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:42:11 +, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:

Hello everyone,

  I want to set quota for my users mail,
  The quota reads the shell account size, but ignores the /var/mail/USER
Are you sure quota is enabled on /var/mail ?  What does the output of

mount

show ?

---Mike

Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net
Providing Internet Access since 1994
[EMAIL PROTECTED], (http://www.tancsa.com)
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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-21 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 07:37 PM 21/05/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:



 No when I enabled quota I did the configuration on /usr
 shall i enable it on /var to?
 then how to make the sendmail or the shell reads the user quota on 
his home directory and

 his /var/mail/$username ?



Hi,
It all depends on how you have it mounted.  Quotas follow 
the partition. So if you have /var/mail as its own partition, you 
need to do it there. If you have /var/mail as a subdirectory of /var 
than do it on /var.


What is the contents of /etc/fstab on the box ?

 if webmin can read the home directory quota and add to it the 
/var/mail/$userInbox size

 then for sure I can do it some how?


I dont use webmin so I am not sure how it calculates things.

---Mike 


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Re: quota and /var/mail

2006-05-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:42:11 +, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:

Hello everyone,

  I want to set quota for my users mail,
  The quota reads the shell account size, but ignores the /var/mail/USER
Are you sure quota is enabled on /var/mail ?  What does the output of

mount

show ?

---Mike

Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net
Providing Internet Access since 1994
[EMAIL PROTECTED], (http://www.tancsa.com)
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