Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-06-04 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Jun 3, 2012 9:52 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Joe Gain joe.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
wrote:
  On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 
 
  On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 
 
  On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
wrote:
 
  On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
  I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i
  rebuilt
  the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and
  started
  X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on
the
  road
  and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and
startx i
  can
  run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine
reboots. If
  I
  try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
  It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...
 
  Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's
out of
  the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)
 
 
  First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that,
run
  pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that
says it is
  missing libxfce4-utils.
 
  After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10.
There's
  a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS).
   Switching to console works, switching back usually does not,
rebooting the
  machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine.  These
last two
  could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they
did not
  happen until xfce-4.10.
 
 
  thanks. i'll check it out..
 
  Waitman
 
 
  spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the
machine
  runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to
log in
  as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed
that if i
  do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots.
like snap
  of a finger instantly.
 
  I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll
  have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't
stop
  rebooting :)
 
  i'll try the pkg_libchk
 
  Thanks,
 
  Waitman
 
 
  this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up
with
  the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see
this.
 
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 Can't help with a solution.

 I had a very similar problem. I'm following 9.0-STABLE (rev. 235976
 ca. week old) using xfce and have a thinkpad laptop with intel
 on-board graphics chip. My problems started when I updated the cairo
 port, and at the time I couldn't really believe that cairo was the
 cause of _the_ problem, because of the way X was crashing. What was
 even more frustrating was that the Xorg log file was not revealing
 anything other than unknown error and segfault. So, I didn't know
 what to do for a while, and after spending a couple of days looking
 for an answer, downgrading cairo fixed that issue.

 Couple of days later the new xfce is also available, and I have had no
 problems running it, on stable with downgraded (currently current
 again*) cairo. Be sure to read UPDATING with respect to xfce4-utils
 etc.

 It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows what's going on
 as this is the first major hiccup that I've had using freebsd.

 Thanks, Joe

 *
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 --
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 jacob-burckhardt-str. 16
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 +49 (0)7531 60389

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 Hi,

 I think I finally got to the bottom of my instant rebooting issue. I did
a csup and rebuilt world/kernel, but doing a pkg_add or running xfce4 would
still reboot the machine. This morning I scoured my logs and found one
message that lead me to solution: bad dir ino  AT OFFSET xxx: MANGLED
ENTRY.

 It looks like on my machine that /var/tmp got wrecked, the fsck on boot
wasn't catching it.

  I booted into single user mode and ran fsck -y a few times, the second
time it skipped the journal to do a 'regular fsck' (maybe there is a switch
to force it to skip the journal anyway?). w/o Journal it picked up the
inode problems and fixed.. then mounted drive rw and deleted stuff in
/var/tmp

  pkg_add works fine now, i haven't tried xfce4 yet but i bet it's going
to work.

 Waitman Gobble
 San Jose California USA


I updated to xfce4.10 using amd64 packages and everything seems to work,
except for some reason startxfce4 is missing but i can get it to
start fine by putting exec 

Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-06-04 Thread Gary Aitken

 I updated to xfce4.10 using amd64 packages and everything seems to work,
 except for some reason startxfce4 is missing but i can get it to
 start fine by putting exec xfce4-session in my .xinitrc.. anyone else
 experience this issue?

%which startxfce4
/usr/local/bin/startxfce4

installed from
  ports/x11-wm/xfce4
I think as a dependency on
  ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session

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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-06-04 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Jun 4, 2012 1:58 PM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote:


  I updated to xfce4.10 using amd64 packages and everything seems to work,
  except for some reason startxfce4 is missing but i can get it to
  start fine by putting exec xfce4-session in my .xinitrc.. anyone else
  experience this issue?

 %which startxfce4
 /usr/local/bin/startxfce4

 installed from
  ports/x11-wm/xfce4
 I think as a dependency on
  ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session

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Thanks. that's where it used to be on my machine... this evening i'll check
and see if its in the tbz, i still have the package file.

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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-06-03 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Joe Gain joe.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
 wrote:
 
  On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
  I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i
  rebuilt
  the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and
  started
  X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the
  road
  and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx
 i
  can
  run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots.
 If
  I
  try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
  It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...
 
  Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's
 out of
  the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)
 
 
  First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that, run
  pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that says
 it is
  missing libxfce4-utils.
 
  After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10.
 There's
  a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS).
   Switching to console works, switching back usually does not,
 rebooting the
  machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine.  These
 last two
  could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did
 not
  happen until xfce-4.10.
 
 
  thanks. i'll check it out..
 
  Waitman
 
 
  spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the
 machine
  runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log
 in
  as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that
 if i
  do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like
 snap
  of a finger instantly.
 
  I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll
  have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop
  rebooting :)
 
  i'll try the pkg_libchk
 
  Thanks,
 
  Waitman
 
 
  this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up
 with
  the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see
 this.
 
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 Can't help with a solution.

 I had a very similar problem. I'm following 9.0-STABLE (rev. 235976
 ca. week old) using xfce and have a thinkpad laptop with intel
 on-board graphics chip. My problems started when I updated the cairo
 port, and at the time I couldn't really believe that cairo was the
 cause of _the_ problem, because of the way X was crashing. What was
 even more frustrating was that the Xorg log file was not revealing
 anything other than unknown error and segfault. So, I didn't know
 what to do for a while, and after spending a couple of days looking
 for an answer, downgrading cairo fixed that issue.

 Couple of days later the new xfce is also available, and I have had no
 problems running it, on stable with downgraded (currently current
 again*) cairo. Be sure to read UPDATING with respect to xfce4-utils
 etc.

 It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows what's going on
 as this is the first major hiccup that I've had using freebsd.

 Thanks, Joe

 *
 http://www.freshports.org/commit.php?category=graphicsport=cairofiles=yesmessage_id=201205260354.q4q3sboi042...@repoman.freebsd.org
 --
 joe gain

 jacob-burckhardt-str. 16
 78464 konstanz
 germany

 +49 (0)7531 60389

 (...otherwise in ???)



Hi,

I think I finally got to the bottom of my instant rebooting issue. I did a
csup and rebuilt world/kernel, but doing a pkg_add or running xfce4 would
still reboot the machine. This morning I scoured my logs and found one
message that lead me to solution: bad dir ino  AT OFFSET xxx: MANGLED
ENTRY.

It looks like on my machine that /var/tmp got wrecked, the fsck on boot
wasn't catching it.

 I booted into single user mode and ran fsck -y a few times, the second
time it skipped the journal to do a 'regular fsck' (maybe there is a switch
to force it to skip the journal anyway?). w/o Journal it picked up the
inode problems and fixed.. then mounted drive rw and deleted stuff in
/var/tmp

 pkg_add works fine now, i haven't tried xfce4 yet but i bet it's going to
work.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA
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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-05-31 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:

  Hi,

 I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i
 rebuilt
 the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and
 started
 X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the
 road
 and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i
 can
 run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I
 try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
 It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...

 Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of
 the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)


 First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that, run
 pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that says it is
 missing libxfce4-utils.

 After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's a
 long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS).
  Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the
 machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine.  These last two
 could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not
 happen until xfce-4.10.


 thanks. i'll check it out..

 Waitman


spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machine
runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log in
as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that if i
do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like snap
of a finger instantly.

I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll have
to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop
rebooting :)

i'll try the pkg_libchk

Thanks,

Waitman
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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-05-31 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:

  Hi,

 I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i
 rebuilt
 the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and
 started
 X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the
 road
 and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i
 can
 run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If
 I
 try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
 It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...

 Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of
 the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)


 First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that, run
 pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that says it is
 missing libxfce4-utils.

 After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's
 a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS).
  Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the
 machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine.  These last two
 could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not
 happen until xfce-4.10.


 thanks. i'll check it out..

 Waitman


 spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machine
 runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log in
 as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that if i
 do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like snap
 of a finger instantly.

 I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll
 have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop
 rebooting :)

 i'll try the pkg_libchk

 Thanks,

 Waitman


this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up with
the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see this.
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo-gobject.a
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo-gobject.la
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo-gobject.so - 
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo-gobject.so.2
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo-script-interpreter.a
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo-script-interpreter.la
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 
libcairo-script-interpreter.so - 
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 
libcairo-script-interpreter.so.2
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo.a
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo.la
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo.so - 
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 0 May 30 23:16 libcairo.so.2
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 75894 Mar  5 06:32 libpangocairo-1.0.a
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  1705 Mar  5 06:32 libpangocairo-1.0.la
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel22 Mar  5 06:32 libpangocairo-1.0.so - 
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 53539 Mar  5 06:32 libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-05-31 Thread Joe Gain
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:

  Hi,

 I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i
 rebuilt
 the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and
 started
 X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the
 road
 and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i
 can
 run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If
 I
 try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
 It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...

 Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of
 the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)


 First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that, run
 pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that says it is
 missing libxfce4-utils.

 After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's
 a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS).
  Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the
 machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine.  These last two
 could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not
 happen until xfce-4.10.


 thanks. i'll check it out..

 Waitman


 spending some time troubleshooting this. it's a weird harold, the machine
 runs fine for days doing various things (but if i want X i have to log in
 as root first and startx, otherwise instant reboot). I've noticed that if i
 do a pkg_add the thing reboots, if i run SciTe editor it reboots. like snap
 of a finger instantly.

 I can do pkg_delete, i deleted cairo (but it claimed to be 1.10). i'll
 have to re-add somehow, might have to build from source if it won't stop
 rebooting :)

 i'll try the pkg_libchk

 Thanks,

 Waitman


 this is kind of strange, ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep cairo - what's up with
 the zero-byte files.. i did do a pkg_delete but didn't expect to see this.

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Can't help with a solution.

I had a very similar problem. I'm following 9.0-STABLE (rev. 235976
ca. week old) using xfce and have a thinkpad laptop with intel
on-board graphics chip. My problems started when I updated the cairo
port, and at the time I couldn't really believe that cairo was the
cause of _the_ problem, because of the way X was crashing. What was
even more frustrating was that the Xorg log file was not revealing
anything other than unknown error and segfault. So, I didn't know
what to do for a while, and after spending a couple of days looking
for an answer, downgrading cairo fixed that issue.

Couple of days later the new xfce is also available, and I have had no
problems running it, on stable with downgraded (currently current
again*) cairo. Be sure to read UPDATING with respect to xfce4-utils
etc.

It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows what's going on
as this is the first major hiccup that I've had using freebsd.

Thanks, Joe

* 
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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-05-28 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:


Hi,

I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i rebuilt
the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and started
X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the road
and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i can
run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I
try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...

Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of
the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)


First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that, run 
pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that says it 
is missing libxfce4-utils.


After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. 
There's a long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working 
DNS).  Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, 
rebooting the machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the 
machine.  These last two could be due to the recent X upgrade, except 
I'm pretty sure they did not happen until xfce-4.10.

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Re: starting xfce4 reboots machine

2012-05-28 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sun, 27 May 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:

  Hi,

 I've been running FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT for some months, last time i
 rebuilt
 the system was April 20th. I've rebooted my machine many times and started
 X and Xfce4 without any trouble, however today I'm out of town on the road
 and when I startx my machine reboots. If I log in as root and startx i can
 run xorg without xfce4. but if i try startxfce4 the machine reboots. If I
 try to startx without xfce4 from my non-root account it locks up.
 It's pretty quick and nothing I can see in the logs...

 Anyone have any ideas about troubleshooting??? It seems like it's out of
 the blue with no changes to the system that I recall. :)


 First, make sure you have cairo-1.10 instead of 1.12.  After that, run
 pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts.  Rebuild anything that says it is
 missing libxfce4-utils.

 After that, well, I still see some unsteadiness from xfce-4.10. There's a
 long delay on start, like a DNS timeout (but I have working DNS).
  Switching to console works, switching back usually does not, rebooting the
 machine.  Leaving X and starting again reboots the machine.  These last two
 could be due to the recent X upgrade, except I'm pretty sure they did not
 happen until xfce-4.10.


thanks. i'll check it out..

Waitman
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