Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-07 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 10:25:12AM -0400, David Banning wrote:
>
> > For backing up purposes, I use a number of tools.
> 
> Thanks Frank for your input. I have chosen for now use Chuck's suggestion,
> that being cvsup. The only thing I would like to do is omit certain files
> that I don't want backed up - large unimportant files - some cache and
> log files. I'll look at your suggestions and see if there is a way 
> to tweak my backup strategy for the best mix.

Hi David,

Obviously, you're best placed to decide which backup strategies are
best to use with your setup. With cvsup you can use refuse files which
might be of use. It means that some parts of the tree are ignored when
cvsup is run.

The manpage describes the usage of them.

Best of luck and may I wish you no data loss!

Regards,

-- 

 Frank 


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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-07 Thread Mike Fahey

You can do all of this with amanda and simply run your backup from cron.

amanda.org



David Banning wrote:

For backing up purposes, I use a number of tools.



Thanks Frank for your input. I have chosen for now use Chuck's suggestion,
that being cvsup. The only thing I would like to do is omit certain files
that I don't want backed up - large unimportant files - some cache and
log files. I'll look at your suggestions and see if there is a way 
to tweak my backup strategy for the best mix.

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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-07 Thread David Banning
> For backing up purposes, I use a number of tools.

Thanks Frank for your input. I have chosen for now use Chuck's suggestion,
that being cvsup. The only thing I would like to do is omit certain files
that I don't want backed up - large unimportant files - some cache and
log files. I'll look at your suggestions and see if there is a way 
to tweak my backup strategy for the best mix.
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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-07 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:06:03PM -0400, David Banning wrote:
>
> I wonder if anyone can recommend a good backup utility for FreeBSD.
> If it's in the ports, great. I would like to just specify which 
> directories I would like to backup, how often and have it tar or zip 
> the files into a directory - if it has off-site ftp, fine, but I can
> do that part myself via crontab.
> 
> I realize I could just make a script file with some tar commands,
> but I'm looking for something that is quicker to maintain and 
> allows me to organize what I'm backing up.
> 
> I have been using reoback but recently I ran into some problems
> with is duplicating files X 10! - I looked into to solving it but
> it might be easier to just try something else.

For backing up purposes, I use a number of tools.

For files that I'm constantly changing, then I check them into
subversion. This includes the files for my website, since it is in a
constant state of flux. Then it's just a case of checking out the tree
and running $ svn update on it on other machines when I edit anything.

For databases (fairly static with few updates), I just drop the
database and scp the file to other machines/disks.

For a tree that I'm constantly adding to but the content is then
unchanging, my LaTeX letters, templates & other documents, I use
rsync:

$ rsync -avruz ./latex/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/latex

Hence, just a few files that I've added since last backup get copied
across.

I backup config files with scp along with any scripts I may have
written.

I use these methods to keep a server, workstation and laptop in sync.

I don't archive anything (eg. write it to CD or DVD). In case of fire,
I grab the laptop & run. In case of asteroid impact, my data dies with
me ;)

My audio CDs will be covered by insurance.

If I had directories with piles of data in it, then I'd use
dump/restore but I don't.

OS files, I don't give a monkeys about, I can always rebuild, ditto
ports.

As you see, I think you should use a number of different tools &
strategies dependent on the type of data you are backing up. They're
all scriptable but I tend to just backup when something has changed
rather than using cron. You soon get into the habit.

All my machines are protected by UPSes.

Regards,

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 Frank 


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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-06 Thread Robert Huff

Jerry McAllister writes:

>  How about using dump(8)/restore(8).
>  It will handle all file situations correctly.   
>  Its main knock is that it can only dump by file systems and
>  not sub-directories, though you can restore by subdirectory or
>  individual file.   

While it will only dump a file system, you can tell it to
ignore directories/files.  See "chflag" for more info.
WARNING: choosing poorly, or forgetting you've done this, can
come back to bite you big-time.


Robert Huff


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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:06:03PM -0400, David Banning wrote:

> I wonder if anyone can recommend a good backup utility for FreeBSD.
> If it's in the ports, great. I would like to just specify which 
> directories I would like to backup, how often and have it tar or zip 
> the files into a directory - if it has off-site ftp, fine, but I can
> do that part myself via crontab.

How about using dump(8)/restore(8).
It will handle all file situations correctly.   
Its main knock is that it can only dump by file systems and
not sub-directories, though you can restore by subdirectory or
individual file.   

It can easily be used in a script too.

jerry


> 
> I realize I could just make a script file with some tar commands,
> but I'm looking for something that is quicker to maintain and 
> allows me to organize what I'm backing up.
> 
> I have been using reoback but recently I ran into some problems
> with is duplicating files X 10! - I looked into to solving it but
> it might be easier to just try something else.
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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-06 Thread Outback Dingo
bacula is good server and client

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Eric Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> David Banning wrote:
>
> > I wonder if anyone can recommend a good backup utility for FreeBSD.
> > If it's in the ports, great. I would like to just specify which
> > directories I would like to backup, how often and have it tar or zip the
> > files into a directory - if it has off-site ftp, fine, but I can
> > do that part myself via crontab.
> >
> > I realize I could just make a script file with some tar commands,
> > but I'm looking for something that is quicker to maintain and allows me
> > to organize what I'm backing up.
> >
> > I have been using reoback but recently I ran into some problems
> > with is duplicating files X 10! - I looked into to solving it but
> > it might be easier to just try something else.
> >
>
> flexbackup is pretty decent. i used it for a while before i just went to
> using dump on entire file systems.
>
>
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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-06 Thread Eric Zimmerman

David Banning wrote:

I wonder if anyone can recommend a good backup utility for FreeBSD.
If it's in the ports, great. I would like to just specify which 
directories I would like to backup, how often and have it tar or zip 
the files into a directory - if it has off-site ftp, fine, but I can

do that part myself via crontab.

I realize I could just make a script file with some tar commands,
but I'm looking for something that is quicker to maintain and 
allows me to organize what I'm backing up.


I have been using reoback but recently I ran into some problems
with is duplicating files X 10! - I looked into to solving it but
it might be easier to just try something else.


flexbackup is pretty decent. i used it for a while before i just went to 
using dump on entire file systems.


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Re: suggestion on a backup utility

2008-05-06 Thread Chuck Robey
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David Banning wrote:
> I wonder if anyone can recommend a good backup utility for FreeBSD.
> If it's in the ports, great. I would like to just specify which 
> directories I would like to backup, how often and have it tar or zip 
> the files into a directory - if it has off-site ftp, fine, but I can
> do that part myself via crontab.
> 
> I realize I could just make a script file with some tar commands,
> but I'm looking for something that is quicker to maintain and 
> allows me to organize what I'm backing up.
> 
> I have been using reoback but recently I ran into some problems
> with is duplicating files X 10! - I looked into to solving it but
> it might be easier to just try something else.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it seems a bit silly to me to waste
any time backing up something that you can completely duplicate rather quickly
via cvsup, anytime you want, error free.  Maybe you're talking about saving work
directories, something like that?  Must be something I'm not seeing here 

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