Re: suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:51:19PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:16 -0800
> Gary Kline  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > note that this question is =OT=.
> > 
> > sorry if this is a re-request for clues.  I =did= ask a very
> > similar question a year or three ago; I'm just not sure
> > where.  
> 
> Ah, I remember. Wans't it when the Newton was released?

is the newton still around?  I thought it was a huge flop.
I'll ck, tx.

> > I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever]
> > device to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
> > looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
> > dialing <>.  instead, im thinking of something with
> > a small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
> > some version of 'unix' is essential.
> > 
> 
> have you looked at Samsung. They have a quiet interesting range from
> hand phones to tablets. I do not know the size up to which they can be
> used as hand phones but some pretty large models have this function
> built-in.


great if there's a model w/ a 5" to 7" screen.  kybd, speaker.
any idea if I can install gvim and espeak...?  and add my own code.


> 
> My daughter has one I would still call a hand phone. She is very happy
> with it. 
> 
> The keyboard has to be an external one in all cases. I do not know it
> this works on all models. 


so the keybd is a plug-in for the phones.  how about the tablets?
I AM/[have been] looking for a book-device that can read to me.

thanks for the clue,

gary


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Re: suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 06:41:43AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:16 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever] device
> > to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
> > looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
> > dialing <>.  instead, im thinking of something with a 
> > small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
> > some version of 'unix' is essential.
> 
> Have you considered using something like a small laptop
> (like the Asus eeePC) which is "small enough" and provides
> sufficient UNIX compatibility? Additionally, a regular
> keyboard (even if in small size) provides tactile feedback
> which can be an advantage (as you don't need visual
> confirmation about something that's covered by your
> fingers).
> 
> I think such kind of netbook can be obtained for few money.
> Some of them were shipped with Linux, if I remember correctly,
> and if you wish to install FreeBSD, it's also possible.
> Here are some examples which illustrate the feasibility
> of such a project:
> 
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee
> 
> http://www.freebsdgr.org/articles/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/install-eeepc/article.html


these look hopeful since  I need to update my debian  5.X.

> 
> http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt
> 
> The requirements are met: small screen, physical keyboard,
> built-in speakers. If getting online with it is required,
> that's also possible by using some selected USB "web stick".
> 
 
I have an EEE-900A that I bought on ebay about two years ago.  it
works fine for my speech program.  I got something about a google
tablet, and [i think] a nook tablet. [?].  then theres the amazon
tablet.  is there a samsung tablet?  does the windoze tablet have
the ability to be unixified, or is it stuck with its crappy op-
sys?

you can see the problem of there being dozens of these small
gadgets out there--yes, including thed android--.  Can anything
be overwritten with anything like we are all used to?  unix.
 
> 
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Re: suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:16 -0800
Gary Kline  wrote:

> 
>   note that this question is =OT=.
> 
>   sorry if this is a re-request for clues.  I =did= ask a very
>   similar question a year or three ago; I'm just not sure
> where.  

Ah, I remember. Wans't it when the Newton was released?
> 
>   I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever]
> device to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
>   looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
>   dialing <>.  instead, im thinking of something with
> a small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
>   some version of 'unix' is essential.
> 

have you looked at Samsung. They have a quiet interesting range from
hand phones to tablets. I do not know the size up to which they can be
used as hand phones but some pretty large models have this function
built-in.

My daughter has one I would still call a hand phone. She is very happy
with it. 

The keyboard has to be an external one in all cases. I do not know it
this works on all models. 

Erich
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Re: suggestions wanted.... {OT}

2013-01-11 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:16 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
>   I'm looking for a small and portable tablet [or whatever] device
>   to use on the once-every-75-years when I do get out.  I am not
>   looking for a cell phone.  the one I have works fine for auto-
>   dialing <>.  instead, im thinking of something with a 
>   small screen and somekind of keyboard.  it has to have a speaker.
>   some version of 'unix' is essential.

Have you considered using something like a small laptop
(like the Asus eeePC) which is "small enough" and provides
sufficient UNIX compatibility? Additionally, a regular
keyboard (even if in small size) provides tactile feedback
which can be an advantage (as you don't need visual
confirmation about something that's covered by your
fingers).

I think such kind of netbook can be obtained for few money.
Some of them were shipped with Linux, if I remember correctly,
and if you wish to install FreeBSD, it's also possible.
Here are some examples which illustrate the feasibility
of such a project:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee

http://www.freebsdgr.org/articles/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/install-eeepc/article.html

http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt

The requirements are met: small screen, physical keyboard,
built-in speakers. If getting online with it is required,
that's also possible by using some selected USB "web stick".



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Magdeburg, Germany
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