Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-23 Thread Thomas Mueller
 No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't deal
 with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it
 can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just 
 going
 to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy
 windows.

Don't think you have to go back to crappy windows until you've tried NetBSD
and/or Linux.  NetBSD install is easier than FreeBSD install, I've done both.
There are lots of Linux live CDs that you can run without changing anything 
on the hard drive.  You would get a dmesg that you could examine.  You can 
get a lot of information on the many Linux distributions, and BSD too, on

http://distrowatch.com/

NetBSD installation CD also gives you a good dmesg that you can examine, and
you can go to a /bin/sh shell to view it with less.

Tom
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-22 Thread Thomas Mueller
Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to 
boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD?  I've had that
problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at
66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive).  One thing that could possibly help is if you
could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need
a different computer to build it on.  

Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux?  Does anybody
know?  NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and
media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD.

You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site.  Under NOTES

 This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu-
 ally be replaced.

Under BUGS, toward the end

 This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira-
 tion date and is greatly in need of death.

I guess you and I both agree on this last statement.  I also have to say that
splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, 
and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or
.tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on.

Tom
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-22 Thread Ryan Coleman
I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap video 
cards if you can, etc.

On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:

 Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to 
 boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD?  I've had that
 problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at
 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive).  One thing that could possibly help is if you
 could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need
 a different computer to build it on.  
 
 Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux?  Does anybody
 know?  NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and
 media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD.
 
 You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site.  Under NOTES
 
 This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu-
 ally be replaced.
 
 Under BUGS, toward the end
 
 This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira-
 tion date and is greatly in need of death.
 
 I guess you and I both agree on this last statement.  I also have to say that
 splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, 
 and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or
 .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on.
 
 Tom
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-22 Thread Rich
No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't deal 
with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it 
can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just 
going 
to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy 
windows.





From: Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz
To: User Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:19:28 AM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap video 
cards if you can, etc.

On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:

 Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to 
 boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD?  I've had that
 problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at
 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive).  One thing that could possibly help is if you
 could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need
 a different computer to build it on.  
 
 Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux?  Does anybody
 know?  NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and
 media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD.
 
 You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site.  Under NOTES
 
 This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu-
 ally be replaced.
 
 Under BUGS, toward the end
 
 This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira-
 tion date and is greatly in need of death.
 
 I guess you and I both agree on this last statement.  I also have to say that
 splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, 
 and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or
 .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on.
 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-22 Thread Ryan Coleman
Then you can suffer through crappy windows or spend $50 on a hard drive... 


On Jul 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Rich wrote:

 No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't 
 deal 
 with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it 
 can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just 
 going 
 to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy 
 windows.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz
 To: User Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:19:28 AM
 Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
 while)... 
 
 I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap video 
 cards if you can, etc.
 
 On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
 
 Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to 
 boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD?  I've had that
 problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at
 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive).  One thing that could possibly help is if you
 could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need
 a different computer to build it on.  
 
 Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux?  Does anybody
 know?  NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and
 media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD.
 
 You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site.  Under NOTES
 
 This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu-
ally be replaced.
 
 Under BUGS, toward the end
 
This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira-
tion date and is greatly in need of death.
 
 I guess you and I both agree on this last statement.  I also have to say that
 splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, 
 and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or
 .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on.
 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-22 Thread Rich
Lol, true.





From: Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz
To: Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Cc: User Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 11:50:58 AM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

Then you can suffer through crappy windows or spend $50 on a hard drive... 


On Jul 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Rich wrote:

 No I'm not going to start ripping my computer apart because FreeBSD can't 
 deal 

 with my hard drive. I think the problem is a shortcoming in FreeBSD where it 
 can't deal with drives that have old stale RAID metadata on them. I'm just 
going 

 to have to wait until they can. Until then no FreeBSD for me. Back to crappy 
 windows.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz
 To: User Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:19:28 AM
 Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
 while)... 
 
 I agree, but I might start pulling parts and see if it works then. swap video 
 cards if you can, etc.
 
 On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
 
 Rich, if you can't get either the installation CD or live-file-system CD to 
 boot (FreeBSD), maybe your computer is allergic to FreeBSD?  I've had that
 problem with both FreeBSD and NetBSD on the older computer (Cx486DX-2 at
 66 MHz; 1.2 GB hard drive).  One thing that could possibly help is if you
 could get a custom installation kernel or running kernel, but you'd need
 a different computer to build it on.  
 
 Any way to cross-compile a FreeBSD kernel from NetBSD or Linux?  Does anybody
 know?  NetBSD guide tells how to make customized installation kernels and
 media, but I see nothing like that for FreeBSD.
 
 You might read the sysinstall man page from FreeBSD web site.  Under NOTES
 
 This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventu-
ally be replaced.
 
 Under BUGS, toward the end
 
This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira-
tion date and is greatly in need of death.
 
 I guess you and I both agree on this last statement.  I also have to say that
 splitting the installation sets into 1392 KB chunks like base.aa, base.ab, 
 and so on, is much less user-friendly and more error-prone than one .tgz or
 .tbz file for each installation set: base.tgz, etc.tgz, man.tgz and so on.
 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-22 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:29 -0700 (PDT)
Rich rl...@pacbell.net articulated:

 Lol, true.

Two top posters in succession. My lucky day. In any case, the OP should
NOT have to suffer the agita of being forced to due either. While the
ability do accomplish what the OP desires does not exist ab initio in
FreeBSD, it does not preclude its eventual inclusion.

-- 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-21 Thread Thomas Mueller
 Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. Every 
 other
 OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I check?

I offered my admittedly cumbersome force-fitting suggestion.  Maybe start with
a minimal installation, possibly base and etc only, or as little as possible
to get something to start with.  If this can be booted, then continue with
sysinstall from the hard drive with the downloaded FreeBSD sets on CD or an 
msdos/vfat partition.  But then if you can untar the base and etc sets in
accordance with the sysinstall scripts, the same could be done with the
other installation sets.

Possibly, booting a live-file-system FreeBSD CD, you could have the
installation CD image on an msdos/vfat partition, and mdconfig and mount that.
You could bsdlabel, newfs, and hopefully be able to proceed from there.

I wonder if FreeBSD is the only OS with 
Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... 

Nothing like this occurs in NetBSD or Linux; I've also installed various 
DOSes (MS-DOS 4.01 and upgrade to 5; DR-DOS 7.03 and FreeDOS; OS/2 1.3
through (Warp) 4) although MS-DOS 4.01 (back in 1990) and OS/2 had their
own problems.


Tom
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-21 Thread Dave
On 20 Jul 2010 at 23:46, Bruce Cran wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
 Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 
  Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer.
  Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can
  I check?
 
 It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses
 the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck
 there, though.
 
 -- 
 Bruce Cran
 

Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: 
list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every 
hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to 
use them all.

I know someone mentioned memory tests, but I didn't see what results 
they came up with, or how much memory you have.  I do know however 
from my own frustrating experience in the past, that often some 
software will run just fine on bad memory, if the problems don't 
screw up the code or it's workspace.  Where as other software will 
crash badly, making you think the program is bad.   The same is 
sadly true of hard disk errors too!

Did you run a recent memtest86 (self boot CD) and let it do several 
Full passes (can take many many hours per pass if you have lots of 
ram!  And or a not so fast CPU) ?

Just idle musings.

Dave B.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:56:50 +0100
Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: 
 list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every 
 hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to 
 use them all.

The debug output is saying that it can't open the vast majority of the
devices it's trying. The device_names array just contains a list of all
devices sysinstall knows about: for USB mass storage devices it tries
to open da0-da15. I guess it's not been updated for devfs where it
should see which device nodes actually exist - or, better, use geom to
enumerate the devices.

-- 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:04:53 +
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I wonder if FreeBSD is the only OS with 
 Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)... 
 
 Nothing like this occurs in NetBSD or Linux; I've also installed
 various DOSes (MS-DOS 4.01 and upgrade to 5; DR-DOS 7.03 and FreeDOS;
 OS/2 1.3 through (Warp) 4) although MS-DOS 4.01 (back in 1990) and
 OS/2 had their own problems.

Only FreeBSD has sysinstall - that message gets displayed when
sysinstall starts as it checks what devices are available for it to
register internally.  It's a message from userspace, not the kernel.
-- 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-21 Thread Rich






From: Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk
To: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 3:56:50 AM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

On 20 Jul 2010 at 23:46, Bruce Cran wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
 Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 
  Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer.
  Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can
  I check?
 
 It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses
 the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck
 there, though.
 

Maybe because there might be old RAID metadata from being in one of those 
stupid 
fakeraids.  I had this problem last year and somehow (can't remember) wiped 
the drives and got it working. The system worked for about a year then crashed. 
I thought it a good time to move to 9.0 but now having the same problem again. 
I 
didn't put them back in the fakeraid. From what I understand FreeBSD can't be 
installed on those fakeraids. Maybe it has something to do with that.



 -- 
 Bruce Cran
 

Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG: 
list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every 
hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to 
use them all.

I know someone mentioned memory tests, but I didn't see what results 
they came up with, or how much memory you have.  I do know however 
from my own frustrating experience in the past, that often some 
software will run just fine on bad memory, if the problems don't 
screw up the code or it's workspace.  Where as other software will 
crash badly, making you think the program is bad.   The same is 
sadly true of hard disk errors too!

Did you run a recent memtest86 (self boot CD) and let it do several 
Full passes (can take many many hours per pass if you have lots of 
ram!  And or a not so fast CPU) ?

Just idle musings.

Dave B.

No I didn't run a mem test since every other OS works perfectly fine. There's 
something in the FreeBSD code that is hanging. When it hangs it says Probing 
devices (this may take a while). What does a while mean? A few seconds? few 
hours? few days? That's a really dumb message IMHO.



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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-21 Thread Randi Harper
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:





 
 From: Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk
 To: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 3:56:50 AM
 Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a
 while)... 

 On 20 Jul 2010 at 23:46, Bruce Cran wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
 Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:

  Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer.
  Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can
  I check?

 It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses
 the slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck
 there, though.


 Maybe because there might be old RAID metadata from being in one of those 
 stupid
 fakeraids.  I had this problem last year and somehow (can't remember) wiped
 the drives and got it working. The system worked for about a year then 
 crashed.
 I thought it a good time to move to 9.0 but now having the same problem 
 again. I
 didn't put them back in the fakeraid. From what I understand FreeBSD can't be
 installed on those fakeraids. Maybe it has something to do with that.



 --
 Bruce Cran


 Hi, I'm not a developer (of OS's at least) but from that DEBUG:
 list, it almost looks like it thinks it can see just about every
 hardware device it knows about, existing or not, and is trying to
 use them all.

 I know someone mentioned memory tests, but I didn't see what results
 they came up with, or how much memory you have.  I do know however
 from my own frustrating experience in the past, that often some
 software will run just fine on bad memory, if the problems don't
 screw up the code or it's workspace.  Where as other software will
 crash badly, making you think the program is bad.   The same is
 sadly true of hard disk errors too!

 Did you run a recent memtest86 (self boot CD) and let it do several
 Full passes (can take many many hours per pass if you have lots of
 ram!  And or a not so fast CPU) ?

 Just idle musings.

 Dave B.

 No I didn't run a mem test since every other OS works perfectly fine. There's
 something in the FreeBSD code that is hanging. When it hangs it says Probing
 devices (this may take a while). What does a while mean? A few seconds? few
 hours? few days? That's a really dumb message IMHO.



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It's not a memory problem. I've never seen this before. I'll see if I
can take a look at the code tonight (I'm at work right now) and figure
out why you might be getting this. Clearly doing a minimal install (as
some have suggested) isn't going to work because you don't even get to
the menu. I know *what* the code is doing - and this is actually
something we're getting rid of soon. This was written before devfs was
implemented, so it is going through looking for every possible device.
I'm just not sure what order it does it in off the top of my head, so
I don't know what comes after the scan for SCSI disks, as it's clearly
getting through that part just fine. Hmmm.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700
Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 There's not quite enough information here to identify your
 motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades
 available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue.
 
 Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the
 options you have.  In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than
 auto or CHS, and try to toggle through ACPI (or SATA mode) vs. IDE
 (or PATA compatibility) vs. enhanced (often meaning some form of
 BIOS RAID is enabled) and see whether any of them work.
 
 If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS
 menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel 
 serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and
 see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which
 is less likely to make a difference.


The code that's being run does the following:

1. Finds all network interfaces.
2. Finds all CDROM, floppy, disk and network devices that might be
needed for installation.
3. Finds all partitions on the disks to register.

I'd guess it's hanging on a syscall somewhere, but there really isn't
much debugging output in usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c to know where,
unless the kernel has printed some errors to the debug console.

-- 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Randi Harper
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700
 Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 There's not quite enough information here to identify your
 motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades
 available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue.

 Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the
 options you have.  In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than
 auto or CHS, and try to toggle through ACPI (or SATA mode) vs. IDE
 (or PATA compatibility) vs. enhanced (often meaning some form of
 BIOS RAID is enabled) and see whether any of them work.

 If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS
 menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel 
 serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and
 see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which
 is less likely to make a difference.


 The code that's being run does the following:

 1. Finds all network interfaces.
 2. Finds all CDROM, floppy, disk and network devices that might be
 needed for installation.
 3. Finds all partitions on the disks to register.

 I'd guess it's hanging on a syscall somewhere, but there really isn't
 much debugging output in usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c to know where,
 unless the kernel has printed some errors to the debug console.

 --
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This is why I suspected #3 - maybe querying the disk and hanging
because of bad disk? Hard to say without debug logs.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Thomas Mueller
I had this problem trying to install FreeBSD on my old computer: Cx486DX2 CPU 
at 66 MHz; 20 MB RAM; 1.2 GB IDE hard drive; 2x Texel, now Plextor, CD-ROM on 
Trantor T130B SCSI (NCR5380 chip; no support in FreeBSD = 3.0); Iomega Zip 250 
on same SCSI card.  That was in the days of FreeBSD 4.x.  No such problem on my 
newer computer with FreeBSD 7.x and now 8.0.  I wondered if this part had been 
revamped with FreeBSD 5.x.  

If you could boot a FreeBSD live file system, for which downloadable iso images 
are now available, you might be able to look at the sysinstall scripts, and 
after partitioning/disklabeling (bsdlabel), you might be able to newfs and make 
mount points, and untar the pieces (base.aa, base.ab, etc) onto the desired 
FreeBSD target slice.  I've wondered why FreeBSD installation sets (base, etc, 
games, comp, man and others) are broken into pieces of 1392 KB each as opposed 
to each installation set in a single .tgz or .tbz (base.tgz, etc.tgz, comp.tgz, 
and others: that's how NetBSD does it).  NetBSD installation CD also offers a 
utility shell (sh).  With floppy disks and floppy drives showing their age, I 
wouldn't be able to get enough good floppy disks together to install FreeBSD 
from floppies, and I believe others would have the same problem.

I never actually did this, so I can't be sure if I'd succeed: decidedly not 
user-friendly but might be interesting to try in a pinch.

Tom
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Rich
Ok I booted on the 8.0 live CD and pressed Alt-F2 when it gets hung. In verbose 
mode it says this:

DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONC, NULL) = 0 (success)
DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 1 enabled
DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 2 enabled
DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 3 enabled
DEBUG: MADT: Found CPUAPIC ID 4 enabled
DEBUG: Notify: Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...
DEBUG: Found a network device named re0
DEBUG: Found a network device named re1
DEBUG: Found a network device named fwe0
DEBUG: Found a network device named fwip0
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cd3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cd3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/mcd3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/mcd3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd0 succeeded on first try.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/acd3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/acd3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/fd3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/fd3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/scd0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/scd0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad4
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd4 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad5
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd5 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad6
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd6 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad7
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd7 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad8
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd8 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad9
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd9 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad10
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd10 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad11
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd11 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad12
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd12 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad13
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd13 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad14
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd14 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/cuad15
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/cuacd15 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da0
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da0 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da1
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da1 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da2
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da2 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da3
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da3 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da4
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da4 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da5
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da5 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da6
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da6 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da7
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da7 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da8
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da8 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da9
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da9 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da10
DEBUG: deviceTry: open of /dev/da10 failed.
DEBUG: deviceTry: attempting to open /dev/da11

Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Rich
Disks are not bad. Works with other OSes. Problem is with FreeBSD. I've tried 
versions 4.6, 7.2, 8.0 and 9.0. Only FreeBSD 4.6 boots without hanging. I've 
not 
tried 5 or 6 but I guess I could if it would help to narrow down what the 
changes were in those versions. Something obviously changed along the way to 
cause it to hang.


From: Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org
To: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
Cc: Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com; FreeBSD - freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; 
Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 11:19:06 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a  
while)... 

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:17:06 -0700
 Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 There's not quite enough information here to identify your
 motherboard, but you should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades
 available for it, as those might help resolve this level of issue.

 Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the
 options you have.  In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than
 auto or CHS, and try to toggle through ACPI (or SATA mode) vs. IDE
 (or PATA compatibility) vs. enhanced (often meaning some form of
 BIOS RAID is enabled) and see whether any of them work.

 If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS
 menus, and disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel 
 serial ports, second NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and
 see whether that does any good...but that's getting into stuff which
 is less likely to make a difference.


 The code that's being run does the following:

 1. Finds all network interfaces.
 2. Finds all CDROM, floppy, disk and network devices that might be
 needed for installation.
 3. Finds all partitions on the disks to register.

 I'd guess it's hanging on a syscall somewhere, but there really isn't
 much debugging output in usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c to know where,
 unless the kernel has printed some errors to the debug console.

 --
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This is why I suspected #3 - maybe querying the disk and hanging
because of bad disk? Hard to say without debug logs.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 07/20/2010 02:42 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
 I've wondered why FreeBSD installation sets (base, etc, games, comp, man and 
 others) are broken into pieces of 1392 KB each as opposed to each 
 installation set in a single .tgz or .tbz (base.tgz, etc.tgz, comp.tgz, and 
 others: that's how NetBSD does it).  NetBSD installation CD also offers a 
 utility shell (sh).  With floppy disks and floppy drives showing their age, I 
 wouldn't be able to get enough good floppy disks together to install FreeBSD 
 from floppies...

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's because not everyone who uses
FreeBSD is on a broadband connection, and a 56MB download (just for
base.??) is a bit too large to fetch in a single session, if for some
reason you are unable to resume the transfer after interruption.

But the floppy thing might be a good reason too. Especially since all
you really need is one working floppy disk and two floppy-drive-equipped
computers to do it.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Rich
Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. Every 
other 
OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I check?







From: Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:42:09 AM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

I had this problem trying to install FreeBSD on my old computer: Cx486DX2 CPU 
at 
66 MHz; 20 MB RAM; 1.2 GB IDE hard drive; 2x Texel, now Plextor, CD-ROM on 
Trantor T130B SCSI (NCR5380 chip; no support in FreeBSD = 3.0); Iomega Zip 250 
on same SCSI card.  That was in the days of FreeBSD 4.x.  No such problem on my 
newer computer with FreeBSD 7.x and now 8.0.  I wondered if this part had been 
revamped with FreeBSD 5.x.  


If you could boot a FreeBSD live file system, for which downloadable iso images 
are now available, you might be able to look at the sysinstall scripts, and 
after partitioning/disklabeling (bsdlabel), you might be able to newfs and make 
mount points, and untar the pieces (base.aa, base.ab, etc) onto the desired 
FreeBSD target slice.  I've wondered why FreeBSD installation sets (base, etc, 
games, comp, man and others) are broken into pieces of 1392 KB each as opposed 
to each installation set in a single .tgz or .tbz (base.tgz, etc.tgz, comp.tgz, 
and others: that's how NetBSD does it).  NetBSD installation CD also offers a 
utility shell (sh).  With floppy disks and floppy drives showing their age, I 
wouldn't be able to get enough good floppy disks together to install FreeBSD 
from floppies, and I believe others would have the same problem.

I never actually did this, so I can't be sure if I'd succeed: decidedly not 
user-friendly but might be interesting to try in a pinch.

Tom
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer.
 Every other OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I
 check?

It looks like it's stopping/spinning at the section where it parses the
slices/partitions. I don't know why it would be getting stuck there,
though.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-20 Thread Rich
Yes I have, that's not it.  It's very frustrating because every CD I can find 
boots up except the FreeBSD CD. If it's not a bad drive nobody seems to know 
what else it could be. It's deeper than that. Something in the FreeBSD code. 
Isn't there a developer somewhere that can tell me what his code is doing? 






From: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com
To: Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 3:52:21 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a  
while)... 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Any ideas anyone ? I'm stuck. Cannot install FreeBSD on my computer. Every 
other
 OS besides FreeBSD boots up and installs. What else can I check?
 

Have you tried booting up with ACPI disabled?

Best of luck,

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT)
Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Probing devices,  please wait (this can take a while)... 
 
 I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would
 be nice if there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to
 let you know if it's doing anything or hung. What can I do to get
 this to install.

It should take less than a second to complete.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Rich
Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and now 
it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no 
hard 
drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are just 
regular Seagate SATA drives. I have windows 7 installed on the first partition 
and trying to dual-boot FreeBSD on a second partition (well actually the third 
since win 7 needs two).



AMD Phenom 9500  Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
2G RAM

Drives:
Seagate ST31000333AS





From: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
To: Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 3:05:32 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT)
Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Probing devices,  please wait (this can take a while)... 
 
 I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would
 be nice if there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to
 let you know if it's doing anything or hung. What can I do to get
 this to install.

It should take less than a second to complete.

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:38:20 -0700 (PDT), Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and 
 now 
 it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no 
 hard 
 drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are 
 just 
 regular Seagate SATA drives.

I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE.
It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the
CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all
the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you
even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is
what's causing all the trouble).



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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE.
 It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the
 CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all
 the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you
 even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is
 what's causing all the trouble).

Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need
to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell.

I'd suggest trying to boot with debug output enabled and seeing if that
produces any clues - I suspect not, but it's worth a go.  To do that,
press 6 when you see the boot menu to get command prompt and enter
boot -v. You should see any debug output on the 2nd console (press F2
when sysinstall hangs).

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Rich wrote:
 Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and 
 now 
 it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no 
 hard 
 drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are 
 just 
 regular Seagate SATA drives. I have windows 7 installed on the first 
 partition 
 and trying to dual-boot FreeBSD on a second partition (well actually the 
 third 
 since win 7 needs two).
 
 AMD Phenom 9500  Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
 2G RAM

There's not quite enough information here to identify your motherboard, but you 
should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades available for it, as those 
might help resolve this level of issue.

Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the options 
you have.  In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than auto or CHS, and 
try to toggle through ACPI (or SATA mode) vs. IDE (or PATA compatibility) 
vs. enhanced (often meaning some form of BIOS RAID is enabled) and see 
whether any of them work.

If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS menus, and 
disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel  serial ports, second 
NIC, or anything else which is not needed, and see whether that does any 
good...but that's getting into stuff which is less likely to make a difference.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Randi Harper
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to  install and it 
 just
 hangs on;

 Probing devices,  please wait (this can take a while)... 

 I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be nice 
 if
 there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know if it's
 doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install.

 AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
 2G RAM

 Drive:
 Seagate ST31000333AS
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This is probably just grasping at straws, but any chance your hard
drive is failing?

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200
 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 
  I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE.
  It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the
  CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all
  the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you
  even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is
  what's causing all the trouble).
 
 Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need
 to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell.

Yes - that's what I intended to suggest. :-)




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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Rich
I tried this but pressing F2 doesn't do anything.





From: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
To: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:16:27 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE.
 It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the
 CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all
 the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you
 even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is
 what's causing all the trouble).

Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need
to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell.

I'd suggest trying to boot with debug output enabled and seeing if that
produces any clues - I suspect not, but it's worth a go.  To do that,
press 6 when you see the boot menu to get command prompt and enter
boot -v. You should see any debug output on the 2nd console (press F2
when sysinstall hangs).

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Rich
Drive is perfectly fine. Windows runs perfect on first partition. BTW both 
drives are doing it, I doubt both drives would go bad at the same time. Windows 
and Linux workfine. Only FreeBSD has trouble.







From: Garrett Cooper gcoo...@freebsd.org
To: Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org
Cc: Rich rl...@pacbell.net; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; 
freebsd-sysinst...@freebsd.org
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 5:53:21 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a  
while)... 

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to  install and it 
just
 hangs on;

 Probing devices,  please wait (this can take a while)... 

 I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be 
 nice 
if
 there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know if 
it's
 doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install.

 AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
 2G RAM

 Drive:
 Seagate ST31000333AS

 This is probably just grasping at straws, but any chance your hard
 drive is failing?

Time to try checking the SMART data on the drive?
Cheers,
-Garrett
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Rich
Motherbd is Foxconn Digitalife A79A-S. BIOS settings don't make any difference.





From: Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com
To: Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Cc: FreeBSD - freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:17:06 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

Hi--

On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Rich wrote:
 Ok well at least that's good to know. So I disconnected my hard drives and 
 now 

 it boots up further on the CD only but obviously I can't install it with no 
hard 

 drives. Why does it hang on my drives and what can I do about it? They are 
 just 

 regular Seagate SATA drives. I have windows 7 installed on the first 
 partition 

 and trying to dual-boot FreeBSD on a second partition (well actually the 
 third 

 since win 7 needs two).
 
 AMD Phenom 9500  Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
 2G RAM

There's not quite enough information here to identify your motherboard, but you 
should make sure there aren't any BIOS upgrades available for it, as those 
might 
help resolve this level of issue.

Check your BIOS config for the disks carefully, and try adjusting the options 
you have.  In particular, try choosing LBA mode rather than auto or CHS, and 
try 
to toggle through ACPI (or SATA mode) vs. IDE (or PATA compatibility) vs. 
enhanced (often meaning some form of BIOS RAID is enabled) and see whether 
any 
of them work.

If that doesn't do the trick, you could wander through your BIOS menus, and 
disable all of the non-essential stuff like parallel  serial ports, second 
NIC, 
or anything else which is not needed, and see whether that does any good...but 
that's getting into stuff which is less likely to make a difference.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Rich
I couldn't find a live CD fro 8.0 Release. All I could find was at this site;

http://livecd.sourceforge.net/download.php

It's 4.6, is that useful? Anyway, it booted up to the login prompt without 
hanging. What does that tell us? Is there anything I can check with this disk 
or 
is there somewhere I can get the 8.0 live CD?




From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
To: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:34:18 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200
 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 
  I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE.
  It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the
  CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all
  the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you
  even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is
  what's causing all the trouble).
 
 Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need
 to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell.

Yes - that's what I intended to suggest. :-)




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:
 I'm trying to boot on the 9.0 Current or 8.0 Release CD to  install and it 
 just
 hangs on;

 Probing devices,  please wait (this can take a while)... 

 I've waited almost an hour. how long is it supposed to take? It would be 
 nice if
 there were a status bar or spinning wheel or something to let you know if 
 it's
 doing anything or hung. What can I do to get this to install.

 AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
 2G RAM

 Drive:
 Seagate ST31000333AS

 This is probably just grasping at straws, but any chance your hard
 drive is failing?

Time to try checking the SMART data on the drive?
Cheers,
-Garrett
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Rich
Ok I booted on that disc and it hangs at the same place. not sure what to do 
next.

What is the fixit menu?





From: Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz
To: Rich rl...@pacbell.net
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:23:45 PM
Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
while)... 

Rich,


Here they are:
8.0 i386:
ftp://ftp11.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso

8.0 AMD64: 
ftp://ftp11.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-amd64/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso


Each is  640MB

On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Rich wrote:

 I couldn't find a live CD fro 8.0 Release. All I could find was at this site;
 
 http://livecd.sourceforge.net/download.php
 
 It's 4.6, is that useful? Anyway, it booted up to the login prompt without 
 hanging. What does that tell us? Is there anything I can check with this disk 
or 

 is there somewhere I can get the 8.0 live CD?
 
 
 
 
 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
 To: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Rich rl...@pacbell.net
 Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 4:34:18 PM
 Subject: Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a 
 while)... 
 
 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:16:27 +0100, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:58 +0200
 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 
 I would suggest to boot with the live system CD, e. g. of 8.0-RELEASE.
 It should not launch sysinstall automatically (you can even boot the
 CD into SUM), so you end up with a regular shell. First, check all
 the kernel's output for things that look... strange... and maybe you
 even decide to install the system without sysinstall (if THAT is
 what's causing all the trouble).
 
 Unfortunately the LiveFS CD does run sysinstall by default - you need
 to go to the Fixit menu to get the shell.
 
 Yes - that's what I intended to suggest. :-)
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: system hangs on; Probing devices, please wait (this can take a while)...

2010-07-19 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0700 (PDT)
Rich rl...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I tried this but pressing F2 doesn't do anything.

Sorry - I meant Alt-F2 to switch VTYs.

-- 
Bruce Cran
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