Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Polytropon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:05:59 +0100, Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> wrote:
>>> "Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> > fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
>>> > conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
>>> > updated.
>>> 
>>> Alas the news about teTeX is true.
>>
>> I'm very sad to hear this, allthough I'm always installing teTeX
>> via pkg_add -r, and I never found something not working anymore.
>> Is there any consideration to remove teTeX completely from the
>> ports tree, or is it still valid to keep using it?
>>
>> (I use LaTeX for nearly everything: work, documentation, literature,
>> even for letters (dinbrief class), so I'm interested in this topic.)
>>
>> Many thanks for pointing out how to get \LaTeX{} from TeXLive.
>
> teTeX still works fine; well enough that I haven't been tempted to try
> porting TeXLive yet...

I forgot to mention that the FreeBSD documentation project
(textproc/docproj*) still uses teTeX, so I keep that installed anyway.

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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Daniel Molina Wegener

Polytropon escribió:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:05:59 +0100, Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

"Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
updated.
  

Alas the news about teTeX is true.



I'm very sad to hear this, allthough I'm always installing teTeX
via pkg_add -r, and I never found something not working anymore.
Is there any consideration to remove teTeX completely from the
ports tree, or is it still valid to keep using it?

(I use LaTeX for nearly everything: work, documentation, literature,
even for letters (dinbrief class), so I'm interested in this topic.)

Many thanks for pointing out how to get \LaTeX{} from TeXLive.


  

Try:

portinstall -PP teTex

Regards,
DMW

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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Daniel Molina Wegener

Joey Mingrone escribió:

Hello,

I've been told that LaTeX is probably the best solution for creating
scientific papers with math fonts, so I'm trying to get a working
installation.

My first attempt was to install the latex2e-2003.12_1 port, which
installed the tex-3.14159_3 port as a dependency.  This seemed to
work, but there were some things referenced in the documentation that
seemed to be missing.  For example, the amsmath package wasn't
available.  I thought there must be a port specifically for these
fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
updated.

Is there a guide for getting all this set up, or can some kind soul
suggest a installation method that works well for them?

Thanks,

Joey Mingrone
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Try teTex and other packages regarding it.
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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread N. Raghavendra
At 2008-07-30T13:00:00-03:00, Joey Mingrone wrote:

> My first attempt was to install the latex2e-2003.12_1 port, which
> installed the tex-3.14159_3 port as a dependency.  This seemed to
> work, but there were some things referenced in the documentation that
> seemed to be missing.  For example, the amsmath package wasn't
> available.  I thought there must be a port specifically for these
> fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
> conflicts with the tex port

Just deinstall the `tex' and `latex' ports, and install the metaport
`print/teTeX', which will pull in all the standard stuff, including
AMSLaTeX packages like `amsmath'.  Also, install `print/gv' for
viewing PostScript files, and `print/acroread8' to view PDF files.

After installing these ports, you can view documentation using the
command texdoc(1).  Here are a few examples for starters:

% texdoc lshort

will display the `Not So Short Introduction to LATEX2e', a useful
primer on LaTeX.

% texdoc symbols

will show you a list of symbols and their control sequences in LaTeX.

% texdoc usrguide

will display `LaTeX2e for authors'.

% texdoc amsldoc

will show you the `User's Guide for the amsmath Package'.

% texdoc `texdoc -s 'hyperref.*manual'`

will display the manual for the `hyperref' package.

Generally, it is worth browsing through `/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/doc'.
As for print references, the `LaTeX Companion' by Mittelbach, et al,
is very useful, as also is the LaTeX book by Lamport.

> Is there a guide for getting all this set up, or can some kind soul
> suggest a installation method that works well for them?

FWIW, I am a mathematician and have been typesetting mathematics for
more than a decade using the teTeX distribution, and have found it
sufficient for my needs.  I've used TeXLive too, but have not found
any need to do so.  YMMV.

HTH,
Raghavendra.

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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Polytropon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:05:59 +0100, Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
>> > conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
>> > updated.
>> 
>> Alas the news about teTeX is true.
>
> I'm very sad to hear this, allthough I'm always installing teTeX
> via pkg_add -r, and I never found something not working anymore.
> Is there any consideration to remove teTeX completely from the
> ports tree, or is it still valid to keep using it?
>
> (I use LaTeX for nearly everything: work, documentation, literature,
> even for letters (dinbrief class), so I'm interested in this topic.)
>
> Many thanks for pointing out how to get \LaTeX{} from TeXLive.

teTeX still works fine; well enough that I haven't been tempted to try
porting TeXLive yet...

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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 07:17:26PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:05:59 +0100, Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
> > > conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
> > > updated.
> > 
> > Alas the news about teTeX is true.
> 
> I'm very sad to hear this, allthough I'm always installing teTeX
> via pkg_add -r, and I never found something not working anymore.
> Is there any consideration to remove teTeX completely from the
> ports tree, or is it still valid to keep using it?

I expect that teTeX will be removed as soon as TeXLive is ported. IIRC,
some people are working on that. A problem is that TeXLive has an
interactive install script. I'm not sure how well that matches with ports.

> (I use LaTeX for nearly everything: work, documentation, literature,
> even for letters (dinbrief class), so I'm interested in this topic.)
> 
> Many thanks for pointing out how to get \LaTeX{} from TeXLive.

Basic installation is very easy, just use the install script on the
CD. If you have to build you own binaries (only i386 6.x binaries are
supplied on the CD), it is somewhat more involved. Basically, you need
to patch a makefile to remove some omega stuff that won't build. I have
some notes from my last build that I could send you if you like.

If more people are interested I could post them on the list.

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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 06:45:18PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:00:00 -0300
> "Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Is there a guide for getting all this set up, or can some kind soul
> > suggest a installation method that works well for them?
> 
> Install from the TeX Live CD and you get the latest software (FreeBSD
> support is included).

The latest CD (2007) only has i386 6.x binaries. I've built from source
on amd64, but that needs some Makefile hacking to work. Those who are
interested can mail me.

The advantage of TeXLive is that it is very complete.

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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:05:59 +0100, Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
> > conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
> > updated.
> 
> Alas the news about teTeX is true.

I'm very sad to hear this, allthough I'm always installing teTeX
via pkg_add -r, and I never found something not working anymore.
Is there any consideration to remove teTeX completely from the
ports tree, or is it still valid to keep using it?

(I use LaTeX for nearly everything: work, documentation, literature,
even for letters (dinbrief class), so I'm interested in this topic.)

Many thanks for pointing out how to get \LaTeX{} from TeXLive.


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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread Glyn Millington
"Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been told that LaTeX is probably the best solution for creating
> scientific papers with math fonts, so I'm trying to get a working
> installation.

A noble ambition!

> fonts, but it seems they are in the teTex port, but that port
> conflicts with the tex port and it seems teTex is no longer being
> updated.

Alas the news about teTeX is true.

> Is there a guide for getting all this set up, or can some kind soul
> suggest a installation method that works well for them?

Have you had a look at TeXLive?


http://www.tug.org/texlive/

For FreeBSD that means downloading the iso, mounting it like this


mount_cd9660 -o ro /dev/`mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/file.iso` /mount-point

cd to the mount point and look out for script entitled install-tl.sh

the script pretty well takes you through the installation


Good luck!


atb



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Re: tex, teTex, LaTeX help

2008-07-30 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:00:00 -0300
"Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a guide for getting all this set up, or can some kind soul
> suggest a installation method that works well for them?

Install from the TeX Live CD and you get the latest software (FreeBSD
support is included).

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