Re: triple monitor hardware setup on FBSD - suggestions needed...

2005-01-02 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 01/01/05 11:08 PM, Eric Kjeldergaard sat at the `puter and typed:
  I am currently running a triple-monitor setup under
  winXP, with an extended desktop that stretches across
  all three monitors.  I like it.
  
  I would, however, like to use FreeBSD.
 
 Good choice :)
  
  So, first off, what hardware (video card) comes to
  mind for doing triple screens with FreeBSD ?  A matrox
  P750 comes to mind, but when you run it with three
  screens, they downgrade to 1280x1024, which is bad.  I
  am happy to consider multiple video cards to
  accomplish this ... at the very least I need 1600x1200
  out of each card, preferably 1920x1200 ...
 
 Well, as far as hardware goes for my tri-monitor, I usually have a
 Radeon 7500 and an geforce2 mx400 (or some other cruddy pci card)
 though I'm using a matrox G450 for the primary right now.  Really, any
 combination of supported video cards will work about equally well.
 
  Second, what is the support for something like this in
  XFree86, or x.org ?  What I am really looking for is
  the ability to create virtually sized screens - so
  instead of having three total (physical) screens that
  I can maximize windows inside of, I want to split each
  physical screen in half for a total of 6 virtual
  screens - so there are six total areas within which I
  can maximize a window in ... this is something I am
  really trying to accomplish.

I think you'll get this through the window manager.  I'm only running
two monitors with the Xinerama extensions (Xorg) but I use fvwm as my
window manager.  Just define your desktop to be a 1X2 area, and you'll
have 2 screens for each monitor.  I use 3X2, so I have 3 screens for
each monitor.  You can even use the pager to define multiple desktops,
all using the same geography.

If you want each screen to scroll individually of the others, meaning
changing the screen on one monitor doesn't change the screen on the
others, I'm not sure that's possible.  Think of the monitors as a 3
paned window onto the desktop, and everything makes sense.

Good luck.
Lou
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Re: triple monitor hardware setup on FBSD - suggestions needed...

2005-01-01 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
 I am currently running a triple-monitor setup under
 winXP, with an extended desktop that stretches across
 all three monitors.  I like it.
 
 I would, however, like to use FreeBSD.

Good choice :)
 
 So, first off, what hardware (video card) comes to
 mind for doing triple screens with FreeBSD ?  A matrox
 P750 comes to mind, but when you run it with three
 screens, they downgrade to 1280x1024, which is bad.  I
 am happy to consider multiple video cards to
 accomplish this ... at the very least I need 1600x1200
 out of each card, preferably 1920x1200 ...

Well, as far as hardware goes for my tri-monitor, I usually have a
Radeon 7500 and an geforce2 mx400 (or some other cruddy pci card)
though I'm using a matrox G450 for the primary right now.  Really, any
combination of supported video cards will work about equally well.

 Second, what is the support for something like this in
 XFree86, or x.org ?  What I am really looking for is
 the ability to create virtually sized screens - so
 instead of having three total (physical) screens that
 I can maximize windows inside of, I want to split each
 physical screen in half for a total of 6 virtual
 screens - so there are six total areas within which I
 can maximize a window in ... this is something I am
 really trying to accomplish.

I'd like to say that this is a trivial thing to do, but I kind of
doubt that it is.  I know of no easy way to do this because X as it is
now, assigns a head to a screen (where by head I mean a video card
output) and in doing so, makes the head atomic in a sense.  What it
sounds like you'd like to do is create something smaller than this and
assign it to a screen.  It might be substantially easier to just
purchase more monitors or learn to use virtual desktops.  Good luck
finding something that suits you :)

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Re: triple monitor hardware setup on FBSD - suggestions needed...

2005-01-01 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:45:49 -0800 (PST)
Joe Schmoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I am currently running a triple-monitor setup under
 winXP, with an extended desktop that stretches across
 all three monitors.  I like it.
 
 I would, however, like to use FreeBSD.
 
 So, first off, what hardware (video card) comes to
 mind for doing triple screens with FreeBSD ?  A matrox
 P750 comes to mind, but when you run it with three
 screens, they downgrade to 1280x1024, which is bad.  I
 am happy to consider multiple video cards to
 accomplish this ... at the very least I need 1600x1200
 out of each card, preferably 1920x1200 ...

You can run as many as the motherboard and powersupply will allow for
^_^
 
 Second, what is the support for something like this in
 XFree86, or x.org ?

Really nice for cards that support it. I personally would suggest
looking at nvidia cards.

 What I am really looking for is
 the ability to create virtually sized screens - so
 instead of having three total (physical) screens that
 I can maximize windows inside of, I want to split each
 physical screen in half for a total of 6 virtual
 screens - so there are six total areas within which I
 can maximize a window in ... this is something I am
 really trying to accomplish.

I am a little lost on what you mean by virtual screen. But what you
want is xinerama and a window manager that nicely supports it. Fluxbox
last I checked did it nicely. Any ways, window placement and
maximization and the like are a job of the window manager, not the X
server.

I eventually got annoyed with the xinerama part and went back to just
letting them act like three seperate screens.
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Re: triple monitor hardware setup on FBSD - suggestions needed...

2004-12-25 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 25 December 2004 at 17:45:49 -0800, Joe Schmoe wrote:

 I am currently running a triple-monitor setup under
 winXP, with an extended desktop that stretches across
 all three monitors.  I like it.

 I would, however, like to use FreeBSD.

 So, first off, what hardware (video card) comes to
 mind for doing triple screens with FreeBSD ?  A matrox
 P750 comes to mind, but when you run it with three
 screens, they downgrade to 1280x1024, which is bad.  I
 am happy to consider multiple video cards to
 accomplish this ... at the very least I need 1600x1200
 out of each card, preferably 1920x1200 ...

You're not limited to a single video card under FreeBSD.

 Second, what is the support for something like this in XFree86, or
 x.org ?

Good.

 What I am really looking for is the ability to create virtually
 sized screens - so instead of having three total (physical) screens
 that I can maximize windows inside of, I want to split each physical
 screen in half for a total of 6 virtual screens - so there are six
 total areas within which I can maximize a window in ... this is
 something I am really trying to accomplish.

I don't know how you'd do that (nor why you would want to).  X offers
a feature called Xinerama which does the opposite: it treats all
screens as part of one big screen.  The disadvantage here is that all
the screens should have the same resolution.  From experience, you
can't do everything with 2048x1536 screens: too much software
(especially from the Microsoft space, or free software which tries to
emulate it) can't handle this kind of resolution.  For example, web
browsing on such screens is a pain: either the fonts are miniscule, or
half the (broken) web sites that you browse completely break their
formatting.

I'm currently running a setup with 8 displays spread over 5 machines.
One of them has three displays.  Take a look at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html, which is a little out of date
(I'm now running x.org, and I now have more screens), but it gives an
idea of the kind of things you can do.

Greg
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