Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 02:45:17PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:

> Kevin Monceaux wrote:
>  > Oliver Fromme wrote:
>  > > How would you like this one?
>  > > 
>  > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png
>  > > 
>  > > (It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status 
>  > > Report.)
>  > 
>  > When I recently came across info on the graphical boot loader project I 
>  > secretly hoped that either the project would fail, or that at least the 
>  > graphical boot loader would be optional.
> 
> It will be optional.  Note that we will also still support
> serial console.
> 
>  > But, after seeing the above screenshot I think I might be able to get used 
>  > to the boot loader pictured in that screenshot.  The screenshot I came 
>  > across with I first discovered the project recently:
>  > 
>  > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot.png
>  > 
>  > looks nice, but is just a bit too modern for my tastes.
> 
> You will be able to supply your own picture if you like.
> I also expect that some people will create various kinds
> of artwork (in the ports collection or elsewhere), so
> there will be quite a few "themes" to choose frome.
> 
> And if you still don't like it, a switch in loader.conf
> will bring the old text menu back.
> 
> Well, at least that's the plan.  :-)

Sounds great to me.
Any prognosis info?

jerry


> 
> Best regards
>Oliver
> 
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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-25 Thread Oliver Fromme
Kevin Monceaux wrote:
 > Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > > How would you like this one?
 > > 
 > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png
 > > 
 > > (It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status 
 > > Report.)
 > 
 > When I recently came across info on the graphical boot loader project I 
 > secretly hoped that either the project would fail, or that at least the 
 > graphical boot loader would be optional.

It will be optional.  Note that we will also still support
serial console.

 > But, after seeing the above screenshot I think I might be able to get used 
 > to the boot loader pictured in that screenshot.  The screenshot I came 
 > across with I first discovered the project recently:
 > 
 > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot.png
 > 
 > looks nice, but is just a bit too modern for my tastes.

You will be able to supply your own picture if you like.
I also expect that some people will create various kinds
of artwork (in the ports collection or elsewhere), so
there will be quite a few "themes" to choose frome.

And if you still don't like it, a switch in loader.conf
will bring the old text menu back.

Well, at least that's the plan.  :-)

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Kevin Monceaux


On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Oliver Fromme wrote:


How would you like this one?

http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png

(It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status 
Report.)


When I recently came across info on the graphical boot loader project I 
secretly hoped that either the project would fail, or that at least the 
graphical boot loader would be optional.  The text based boot loader and 
text based installer are to of the things I really like about FreeBSD. 
But, after seeing the above screenshot I think I might be able to get used 
to the boot loader pictured in that screenshot.  The screenshot I came 
across with I first discovered the project recently:


http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot.png

looks nice, but is just a bit too modern for my tastes.  I know, I'm old 
fashioned.  I still prefer programs with text based user interfaces.  I'm 
typing this e-mail in Alpine and my editor of choice is vim.  Oh, and I 
work as an operator in an IBM mainframe shop where most of our "online" 
applications are still 3270 text terminal based.  Now days we use terminal 
emulator software on PCs instead of actual 3179 terminals, but the apps 
are still text based, and still work fine on the few 3179 terminals we 
have left.




Kevin
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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:58:04 +0200 (CEST), Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> There are more screen shots in the same directory:
> 
> http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/
> 
> I'm sure you'll find one that is sufficiently less
> conservative, whatever that means.   ;-)
> 
> It is intended that the user (or vendor) will be able
> to use his own background image, so you can supply
> your own.

I hope there will be a german laguage variant so I don't
need to hear this repeating "But it's in English, I want
in German!" moaning anymore. :-)

Great invention! Really!


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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Powell
Oliver Fromme wrote:
[snip] 
>  > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs
> 
> How would you like this one?
> 
> http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png
> 
> (It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly
> Status Report.)
> 
> Best regards
>Oliver
> 

That's great! I like it. I was never enamored of the "sex toy"
variant. "Chuckie" has always been my favorite. Thanks.

-Mike


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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Oliver Fromme
Ivan Voras wrote:
 > Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > > enom-FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > > > beastie_disable="NO"  had no effect.
 > > 
 > > That's because "NO" is already the default.  Setting it
 > > to "YES" will completely disable the whole boot menu.
 > > 
 > > > All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie"
 > > > which produced beastie in color
 > > > 
 > > > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs
 > > 
 > > How would you like this one?
 > > 
 > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png
 > > 
 > > (It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly
 > > Status Report.)
 > 
 > This is very good. I hope there will be less "conservative" variants :)

There are more screen shots in the same directory:

http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/

I'm sure you'll find one that is sufficiently less
conservative, whatever that means.   ;-)

It is intended that the user (or vendor) will be able
to use his own background image, so you can supply
your own.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Ivan Voras
Oliver Fromme wrote:
> enom-FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > beastie_disable="NO"  had no effect.
> 
> That's because "NO" is already the default.  Setting it
> to "YES" will completely disable the whole boot menu.
> 
>  > All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie"
>  > which produced beastie in color
>  > 
>  > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs
> 
> How would you like this one?
> 
> http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png
> 
> (It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly
> Status Report.)

This is very good. I hope there will be less "conservative" variants :)

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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> How would you like this one?
> 
> http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png
> 
> (It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly
> Status Report.)

Oooohh ... spiffy!

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Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread Oliver Fromme
enom-FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > beastie_disable="NO"  had no effect.

That's because "NO" is already the default.  Setting it
to "YES" will completely disable the whole boot menu.

 > All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie"
 > which produced beastie in color
 > 
 > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs

How would you like this one?

http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png

(It's work in progress.  See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly
Status Report.)

Best regards
   Oliver

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RE: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu

2008-08-22 Thread enom-FBSD1
beastie_disable="NO"  had no effect.

All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie"   which produced beastie 
in
color

Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs

Thanks for your help.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Powell
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:16 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot
optionsmenu

enom-FBSD1 wrote:

> Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to
> display to the right of the   'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu?
>

Look at /boot/defaults/loader.conf for the following:

#beastie_disable="NO"   # Turn the beastie boot menu on and off
#loader_logo="fbsdbw"   # Desired logo: fbsdbw, beastiebw, beastie,
none

As always, put your overrides in /boot/loader.conf and leave the defaults
alone.

-Mike



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