subject:"Re\: upgrade"


2013-03-27 14:22, Loic Capdeville wrote:

Hi !

I'm trying to update devel/py-setuptools which has been replaced by
devel/py-distribute.
As mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING I did portupgrade -fo
devel/py-distribute devel/py-setuptools since I'm using ports, but
nothing happens.

Output of pkg_version -vIL= :
py27-setuptools-0.6c11_3   succeeds index (index has 0.6.35)

I already tried to fix the package registry using pkgdb -F.

I've been trying to fix this for days, but still can't find a solution.

Any idea ?


Can you post contents of 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth* files?


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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


On 27/03/2013 13:50, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

2013-03-27 14:22, Loic Capdeville wrote:

Hi !

I'm trying to update devel/py-setuptools which has been replaced by
devel/py-distribute.
As mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING I did portupgrade -fo
devel/py-distribute devel/py-setuptools since I'm using ports, but
nothing happens.

Output of pkg_version -vIL= :
py27-setuptools-0.6c11_3   succeeds index (index has 0.6.35)

I already tried to fix the package registry using pkgdb -F.

I've been trying to fix this for days, but still can't find a solution.

Any idea ?


Can you post contents of
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth* files?



Thanks for your quick response.
Here is what you requested:

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  395 Mar 13 04:50 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  215 Dec 30 15:04 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist



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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


On 27/03/2013 14:00, Loic Capdeville wrote:

On 27/03/2013 13:50, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

2013-03-27 14:22, Loic Capdeville wrote:

Hi !

I'm trying to update devel/py-setuptools which has been replaced by
devel/py-distribute.
As mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING I did portupgrade -fo
devel/py-distribute devel/py-setuptools since I'm using ports, but
nothing happens.

Output of pkg_version -vIL= :
py27-setuptools-0.6c11_3   succeeds index (index has
0.6.35)

I already tried to fix the package registry using pkgdb -F.

I've been trying to fix this for days, but still can't find a solution.

Any idea ?


Can you post contents of
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth* files?



Thanks for your quick response.
Here is what you requested:

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  395 Mar 13 04:50
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  215 Dec 30 15:04
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist


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... and the files content:

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
./setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
./Pygments-1.5-py2.7.egg
./Babel-0.9.6-py2.7.egg
./MarkupSafe-0.15-py2.7-freebsd-9.0-RELEASE-amd64.egg
./Jinja2-2.6-py2.7.egg
./Sphinx-1.1.3-py2.7.egg
./virtualenv-1.9.1-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:]; 
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert = 
p+len(new)



/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
./setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:]; 
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert = 
p+len(new)


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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


2013-03-27 15:06, Loic Capdeville wrote:

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
../Pygments-1.5-py2.7.egg
../Babel-0.9.6-py2.7.egg
../MarkupSafe-0.15-py2.7-freebsd-9.0-RELEASE-amd64.egg
../Jinja2-2.6-py2.7.egg
../Sphinx-1.1.3-py2.7.egg
../virtualenv-1.9.1-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


Looks like py-distribute is not installed at all.

what was the outcome of portupgrade -fo devel/py-distribute 
devel/py-setuptools? Can you try running that again?


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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


On 27/03/2013 14:27, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

2013-03-27 15:06, Loic Capdeville wrote:

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
../Pygments-1.5-py2.7.egg
../Babel-0.9.6-py2.7.egg
../MarkupSafe-0.15-py2.7-freebsd-9.0-RELEASE-amd64.egg
../Jinja2-2.6-py2.7.egg
../Sphinx-1.1.3-py2.7.egg
../virtualenv-1.9.1-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


Looks like py-distribute is not installed at all.

what was the outcome of portupgrade -fo devel/py-distribute
devel/py-setuptools? Can you try running that again?



It hasn't printed anything since the first time I tried to run it...
and still print nothing.
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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


2013-03-27 15:33, Loic Capdeville wrote:

On 27/03/2013 14:27, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

2013-03-27 15:06, Loic Capdeville wrote:

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
../Pygments-1.5-py2.7.egg
../Babel-0.9.6-py2.7.egg
../MarkupSafe-0.15-py2.7-freebsd-9.0-RELEASE-amd64.egg
../Jinja2-2.6-py2.7.egg
../Sphinx-1.1.3-py2.7.egg
../virtualenv-1.9.1-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


Looks like py-distribute is not installed at all.

what was the outcome of portupgrade -fo devel/py-distribute
devel/py-setuptools? Can you try running that again?



It hasn't printed anything since the first time I tried to run it...
and still print nothing.


So here is a main problem. If it prints nothing it doesn't work.

Do you have portupgrade or portmaster installed? Did it yield at least 
one line? Some errors? If it doesn't that's surely a sign that something 
is going wrong.


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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


On 27/03/2013 17:30, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

2013-03-27 15:33, Loic Capdeville wrote:

On 27/03/2013 14:27, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

2013-03-27 15:06, Loic Capdeville wrote:

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
../Pygments-1.5-py2.7.egg
../Babel-0.9.6-py2.7.egg
../MarkupSafe-0.15-py2.7-freebsd-9.0-RELEASE-amd64.egg
../Jinja2-2.6-py2.7.egg
../Sphinx-1.1.3-py2.7.egg
../virtualenv-1.9.1-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth.dist:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


Looks like py-distribute is not installed at all.

what was the outcome of portupgrade -fo devel/py-distribute
devel/py-setuptools? Can you try running that again?



It hasn't printed anything since the first time I tried to run it...
and still print nothing.


So here is a main problem. If it prints nothing it doesn't work.

Do you have portupgrade or portmaster installed? Did it yield at least
one line? Some errors? If it doesn't that's surely a sign that something
is going wrong.

I use portupgrade regularly to upgrade my ports, and usually everything 
goes right.

If fails only with that particular operation (or these portupgrade options)
Do I have to install devel/py-distribute separately, or should the 
portupgrade -fo command do everything itself (uninstall py-setuptools 
and install py-distribute) ?

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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools


2013-03-27 18:37, Loic Capdeville wrote:

import sys; sys.__plen = len(sys.path)
../setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg
import sys; new=sys.path[sys.__plen:]; del sys.path[sys.__plen:];
p=getattr(sys,'__egginsert',0); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert =
p+len(new)


Looks like py-distribute is not installed at all.

what was the outcome of portupgrade -fo devel/py-distribute
devel/py-setuptools? Can you try running that again?



It hasn't printed anything since the first time I tried to run it...
and still print nothing.


So here is a main problem. If it prints nothing it doesn't work.

Do you have portupgrade or portmaster installed? Did it yield at least
one line? Some errors? If it doesn't that's surely a sign that something
is going wrong.


I use portupgrade regularly to upgrade my ports, and usually everything
goes right.
If fails only with that particular operation (or these portupgrade options)
Do I have to install devel/py-distribute separately, or should the
portupgrade -fo command do everything itself (uninstall py-setuptools
and install py-distribute) ?


This command should forcefully deintsall second package and replace it 
with first one. I'm not using portupgrade, I switched to portmaster long 
time ago so I can't help you with it.


If you want to make the switch by hand I think you should:

pkg_delete -f py27-setuptools-0.6c11_3
# now write down the whole list of dependent packages

cd /usr/ports/devel/py-distribute ; make install clean
portupgrade -f ..list of packages that require setuptools..

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Re: Upgrade devel/py-setuptools

2013-03-27 Thread Peter Boosten


On 27-3-2013 17:37, Loic Capdeville wrote:




I use portupgrade regularly to upgrade my ports, and usually everything
goes right.
If fails only with that particular operation (or these portupgrade options)
Do I have to install devel/py-distribute separately, or should the
portupgrade -fo command do everything itself (uninstall py-setuptools
and install py-distribute) ?


I had some problems with this one as well. I eventually ended up by 
pkg_deleting -f the package, delete manually some file portinstall 
complaints about, and after that it worked.


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Re: Upgrade from 6.4 to 9.1?

2013-03-17 Thread Drew Tomlinson


On 3/16/2013 3:46 PM, Fbsd8 wrote:

Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Mar 16), Drew Tomlinson said:

I have an old system happily running 6.4 but am finding that it can no
longer download or build a ports index.  Thus I guess it's time to
upgrade.

What gotchas do I need to look out for?  In the past my upgrades have
always been simply downloading new source, reviewing kernel config 
file,
and then rebuilding the system.  Any ports that didn't work after 
that I

would just rebuild as well.  However I've never waited this long to
upgrade.  Do I need to do anything different?


You won't be able to do a straight source build from 6.4 to 9.1; too 
many
low-level changes like Makefile syntax and compiler options have 
changed. If you are comfortable with temporarily disabling 
non-essential things that
fail to build, it is definitely possible to do a long jump to 9.1, 
but it'd

be safer to either hop from 6.4 - (7-stable or 8-stable) - 9 doing
buildkernels and buildworlds, or just do a binary upgrade of kernel 
and base

system to 9.1.



The best approach is to backup your user data and do a fresh install 
from 9.1 cdrom. You will bypass a bunch of headaches which may in the 
end force you to do a fresh install anyway. And it will save you a lot 
of compile time. It's alway a good feeling to know you have a pristine 
system when you start having problems.


Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll give these a try.

Cheers,

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Re: Upgrade from 6.4 to 9.1?

2013-03-16 Thread Dan Nelson

In the last episode (Mar 16), Drew Tomlinson said:
 I have an old system happily running 6.4 but am finding that it can no
 longer download or build a ports index.  Thus I guess it's time to
 upgrade.
 
 What gotchas do I need to look out for?  In the past my upgrades have
 always been simply downloading new source, reviewing kernel config file,
 and then rebuilding the system.  Any ports that didn't work after that I
 would just rebuild as well.  However I've never waited this long to
 upgrade.  Do I need to do anything different?

You won't be able to do a straight source build from 6.4 to 9.1; too many
low-level changes like Makefile syntax and compiler options have changed. 
If you are comfortable with temporarily disabling non-essential things that
fail to build, it is definitely possible to do a long jump to 9.1, but it'd
be safer to either hop from 6.4 - (7-stable or 8-stable) - 9 doing
buildkernels and buildworlds, or just do a binary upgrade of kernel and base
system to 9.1.

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Re: Upgrade from 6.4 to 9.1?

2013-03-16 Thread Fbsd8


Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Mar 16), Drew Tomlinson said:

I have an old system happily running 6.4 but am finding that it can no
longer download or build a ports index.  Thus I guess it's time to
upgrade.

What gotchas do I need to look out for?  In the past my upgrades have
always been simply downloading new source, reviewing kernel config file,
and then rebuilding the system.  Any ports that didn't work after that I
would just rebuild as well.  However I've never waited this long to
upgrade.  Do I need to do anything different?


You won't be able to do a straight source build from 6.4 to 9.1; too many
low-level changes like Makefile syntax and compiler options have changed. 
If you are comfortable with temporarily disabling non-essential things that

fail to build, it is definitely possible to do a long jump to 9.1, but it'd
be safer to either hop from 6.4 - (7-stable or 8-stable) - 9 doing
buildkernels and buildworlds, or just do a binary upgrade of kernel and base
system to 9.1.



The best approach is to backup your user data and do a fresh install 
from 9.1 cdrom. You will bypass a bunch of headaches which may in the 
end force you to do a fresh install anyway. And it will save you a lot 
of compile time. It's alway a good feeling to know you have a pristine 
system when you start having problems.


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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-13 Thread CeDeROM

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote:
 A blind Linux user's homepage: http://juliencoder.de/
 The homepage of my provider: http://www.o2online.de/
 What site is more pleasant ;)?
 The first one.

Agree, it contains more information than the second one which is
picture-flash based and I cannot see ~80% of its content :-)

Anyway the best thing in BSD is that you can do ANYTHING from the
commandline with a simple command set, including full system
configuration, package creation, kernel build, etc :-)

Best regards :-)
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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-13 Thread Chris Whitehouse


On 12/02/2013 21:38, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:


In general, I don't upgrade my ports very often, so up until recently
I was running a fairly old version of firefox (firefox-15.0.1,1).

But over the weekend, I moved everything over to a new drive
containing the latest 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD, and with a complete set
of freshly rebuilt ports, including the latest firefox 18.0.1.
(As part of this process, I copied my entire /home directory over
to the new drive.)

So anway, mostly everything is still working ok, however at some
time during this process, firefox apparently lost track of all
of my personal settings... my start page, all of my bookmarks,
and all of my saved web site user IDs an passwords.

I looked in the /usr/ports/UPDATING file for some clue as to why
this might have happened and found none.

Looking into this issue a bit deeper, I've now learned that all of
one's personal settings are stored in a directory having a name which
has the following general form:

~/.mozilla/firefox/.default

where the  part is some eight character apparently random
combination of lower case letters and digits.

The odd thing is that it appears that all of my old firefox setting
are still alive and well and living under a subdirectory of the
~/.mozilla/firefox directory called 4up9dkb1.default.  However it
does also appear that my execution of firefox, for the first time, on
this new system I've been putting together has resulted in the creation
of a brand new parallel subdirectory, located in the same directory as
my original personal settings .default directory, but this new one is
named nh2ykiym.default.  And now, firefox is apparently saving and
retrieving my (new set of) personal settings out of that new directory.

So, um, what gives?  Why did this happen?  And more to the point,
can I get back all of my personal settings just via the following
seemingly intutive commands:

rm -fr nh2ykiym.default
mv 4up9dkb1.default nh2ykiym.default

or will that break something else in some obscure but annoying way?


Is there a file .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini? If so it should list 
which profile to use. Just change it to the one you want and it should 
just work.


I'm using an older version so don't know how the latest works

Chris



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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:13 +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
 Is there a file .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini? If so it should list 
 which profile to use. Just change it to the one you want and it
 should 
 just work.
 
 I'm using an older version so don't know how the latest works

Good point Chris! I've forgotten, that there is such a file, when using
profiles.

Btw. they are formated like this:

spinymouse@precise:~$ ls -l /mnt/archlinux/home/spinymouse/.mozilla/firefox
total 8
lrwxrwxrwx  1 spinymouse users   18 Dec 13  2011 archfox - /mnt/data2/archfox
drwx-- 13 spinymouse users 4096 Oct 31 15:11 ndos9d6q.default
-rw-r--r--  1 spinymouse users  143 Apr 18  2012 profiles.ini
spinymouse@precise:~$ cat 
/mnt/archlinux/home/spinymouse/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini
[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=d
IsRelative=1
Path=ndos9d6q.default
Default=1

[Profile1]
Name=x
IsRelative=1
Path=archfox

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-13 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette


In message CAFYkXjmA_DTP=Bzf=D+QSw890tbrz0+ZNTiLaWNj=dmr749...@mail.gmail.com
CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote:

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette
r...@tristatelogic.com wrote:
 Looking into this issue a bit deeper, I've now learned that all of
 one's personal settings are stored in a directory having a name which
 has the following general form:
 ~/.mozilla/firefox/.default

Hey Ronald, are you sure there is no corruption on the disk?

I have no reason whatsoever to suspect that there is.

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

The profile should be available by 'firefox -ProfileManager' [1], OTOH
I'm booted to Ubuntu Precise and the ProfileManager doesn't start, for
Arch Linux I used two profiles, one shared with another Linux and after
a while I couldn't use the shared profiles anymore, but the
ProfileManger still started.

In the past
rm -fr nh2ykiym.default
mv 4up9dkb1.default nh2ykiym.default
worked, or instead simply chose it with the ProfileManger, but nowadays
there might be something fishy.

[1] IIRC only one could have the name *.default, the other must have
another name, *.foo.

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 22:49 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 The profile should be available by 'firefox -ProfileManager' [1], OTOH
 I'm booted to Ubuntu Precise and the ProfileManager doesn't start, for
 Arch Linux I used two profiles, one shared with another Linux and after
 a while I couldn't use the shared profiles anymore, but the
 ProfileManger still started.
 
 In the past
 rm -fr nh2ykiym.default
 mv 4up9dkb1.default nh2ykiym.default
 worked, or instead simply chose it with the ProfileManger, but nowadays
 there might be something fishy.
 
 [1] IIRC only one could have the name *.default, the other must have
 another name, *.foo.

simply try
mv nh2ykiym.default nh2ykiym.test
perhaps it then will use
4up9dkb1.default
automatically

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-12 Thread CeDeROM

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette
r...@tristatelogic.com wrote:
 Looking into this issue a bit deeper, I've now learned that all of
 one's personal settings are stored in a directory having a name which
 has the following general form:
 ~/.mozilla/firefox/.default

Hey Ronald, are you sure there is no corruption on the disk? Have you
preformatted your new drive? I had disks that lost data if used with
no pre-format stage. Have you tried forcing fsck? Sometimes when my
machine crash there is a silent corruption on the filesystem and some
settings are lost/changed...

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 22:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 22:49 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  The profile should be available by 'firefox -ProfileManager' [1], OTOH
  I'm booted to Ubuntu Precise and the ProfileManager doesn't start, for
  Arch Linux I used two profiles, one shared with another Linux and after
  a while I couldn't use the shared profiles anymore, but the
  ProfileManger still started.
  
  In the past
  rm -fr nh2ykiym.default
  mv 4up9dkb1.default nh2ykiym.default
  worked, or instead simply chose it with the ProfileManger, but nowadays
  there might be something fishy.
  
  [1] IIRC only one could have the name *.default, the other must have
  another name, *.foo.
 
 simply try
 mv nh2ykiym.default nh2ykiym.test
 perhaps it then will use
 4up9dkb1.default
 automatically

After a 'killall -9 -w firefox' the ProfileManager did start :). Closing
the windows wasn't enough ;). FWIW version for this Linux install is
15.0.1.

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 23:00 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
 Hey Ronald, are you sure there is no corruption on the disk? Have you
 preformatted your new drive? I had disks that lost data if used with
 no pre-format stage. Have you tried forcing fsck? Sometimes when my
 machine crash there is a silent corruption on the filesystem and some
 settings are lost/changed...

Firefox is my preferred browser, but it has some disadvantages compared
to other browsers. 1. It's slow and bloated, even without add-ons,
fortunately it doesn't matter on my relatively modern machine. 2. It's
known for all kind of issues. Some years ago there sometimes was the
need to delete the configuration, to get Firefox running again, it
simply couldn't be started sometimes, because there were bugs.

Regarding to the kind of issue, it's more likely that Firefox is buggy
and the HDD still is ok.

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-12 Thread CeDeROM

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Firefox is my preferred browser, but it has some disadvantages compared
 to other browsers.

Give a try to Chromium :-) I have been using Opera for long time
because it was fast and small. Not that long ago I have switched to
Chromium and this was really good step - it is opensource/bsd, faster
than firefox, you will find shortcut keys almost the same as in
firefox/gnome, very good integration with google, h264 support, lots
of applications/applets, etc etc :-)

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 23:26 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf
 ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
  Firefox is my preferred browser, but it has some disadvantages compared
  to other browsers.
 
 Give a try to Chromium :-) I have been using Opera for long time
 because it was fast and small. Not that long ago I have switched to
 Chromium and this was really good step - it is opensource/bsd, faster
 than firefox, you will find shortcut keys almost the same as in
 firefox/gnome, very good integration with google, h264 support, lots
 of applications/applets, etc etc :-)

My favorites are Firefox and Opera, but I also have Chromium installed
for both, FreeBSD and Linux. I don't like the new style of Opera and the
style of Chromium. I prefer classic menus. In the future I might need to
install Chrome :S. I'm not a flash fan, but I already couldn't download
the last Internet provider bill :D, perhaps a flash or some other script
issue. Btw. the design of Opera still is closer to my workflow than the
design of Chromium.

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

2013-02-12 Thread Polytropon

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:40:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 I don't like the new style of Opera and the
 style of Chromium. I prefer classic menus.

Luckily you can change that in Opera and give it the
traditional style. Still Opera suffers from ongoing
disimprovement (e. g. reduction of functionality in
file save dialog or printing support).



 I'm not a flash fan, but I already couldn't download
 the last Internet provider bill :D, perhaps a flash or some other script
 issue.

Maybe Java? Some old fasioned guys still use it... ;-)

Even though I don't like Flash especially because it
has become what animated GIFs have been used for in the
past - replacement for HTML, nagging, stealing focus,
aggressive advertising with sound and so on - it perfectly
works with Opera.



 Btw. the design of Opera still is closer to my workflow than the
 design of Chromium.

That's my problem with Chromium and Firefox too. I like
the possibility to remove visual controls (red X button
on tabs for example) without losing functionality (middle
click on tab closes tab). From my very individual experience,
Opera offers the best integration of mouse and keyboard. It's
sufficiently fast and renders stuff acceptably correct.




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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 00:16 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 Even though I don't like Flash especially because it
 has become what animated GIFs have been used for in the
 past - replacement for HTML, nagging, stealing focus,
 aggressive advertising with sound and so on - it perfectly
 works with Opera.

The best websites are made by people using braille instead of displays.
Sometimes they choose less good color combinations :D, but they usually
are willing to fix it, if you ask them.

I'm a musician, I need to activate the sound card and to turn on
additional audio gear, before I get sound. I don't like noise all the
times. It reminds me of the idiotic sounds on the main bridge of the
Enterprise. Desktop sound is disabled and if I need audio notification I
want the bell, a simple beep from the computer case's thingy. Idiotic
animations stealing focus are a serious issue for me, regarding to
dyslexia signs already are animated for me, when they aren't animated. I
already can't use applications that animate a mini icon in a menu bar,
if it's impossible to disable it. It's drivin' me crazy. It's drivin'
me nuts.

Even if old printers are slow, loud and the printing wasn't brilliant,
I'm missing my ink ribbon listing paper printers. Printing was cheap
that time and reading was much nicer than using the monitor of my
computer or my tablet PC. I've got inkjet printer, but it's to expensive
for me, to use them.

I heard that reading should be more comfortable on a cheap reader than
on an iPad, but I won an iPad and will keep it as a toy and reader and
won't buy a reader, since they aren't really cheap.

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Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)

 Forwarded Message 
From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Upgrade causes loss of all firefox settings (?)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:52:34 +0100

On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 00:47 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 The best websites are made by people using braille instead of displays.
 Sometimes they choose less good color combinations :D, but they usually
 are willing to fix it, if you ask them.

A blind Linux user's homepage: http://juliencoder.de/

The homepage of my provider: http://www.o2online.de/

What site is more pleasant ;)?

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Re: Upgrade icu failed

2012-12-24 Thread Matthias Fechner

Am 23.12.12 17:56, schrieb Walter Hurry:
 pkg_info should be reporting 'no packages installed'.
 What is the output from pkg2ng?

I get there a lot of error messages:

pkg_info: the package info for package 'ImageMagick-6.8.0.7' is corrupt
usage: pkg info pkg-name
   pkg info -a
   pkg info [-eDgxXdrlBsqOf] pkg-name
   pkg info [-drlBsqfR] -F pkg-file

For more information see 'pkg help info'.
pkg_info: the package info for package 'ImageMagick-6.8.0.7' is corrupt
make: don't know how to make showconfig. Stop
cat: /var/db/pkg/ImageMagick-6.8.0.7/+COMMENT: No such file or directory
pkg_info: the package info for package 'ImageMagick-6.8.0.7' is corrupt
egrep: /var/db/pkg/ImageMagick-6.8.0.7/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory
pkg: open(/tmp/pkg2ngfNwkS/+DESC): No such file or directory
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Registration of ImageMagick-6.8.0.7 failed.
name: ImageMagick
version: 6.8.0.7
origin:
comment: |
  maintainer:
prefix:
licenselogic: single
deps:
pkg_info: the package info for package 'ORBit2-2.14.19' is corrupt
usage: pkg info pkg-name
   pkg info -a
   pkg info [-eDgxXdrlBsqOf] pkg-name
   pkg info [-drlBsqfR] -F pkg-file


It continues with a lot of packages, it seems for all packages upgraded
since the change from pkg to pkgng.

Is this maybe a problem with portmaster?

Thanks,
Matthias

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Re: Upgrade icu failed

2012-12-23 Thread Walter Hurry

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:16:02 +0100, Matthias Fechner wrote:

 Dear list,
 
 I checked the file /usr/ports/UPDATING and there is noted 20121218 for
 icu to execute the command:
 portmaster -w -r icu
 
 (my system is already on pkgng as described a in the UPDATING file,
 20121015).
 If I execute now portmaster i get the following error message:
 *
 === icu-4.8.1.1_1 1/1
 
 === Currently installed version: icu-4.8.1.1_1 === Port directory:
 /usr/ports/devel/icu
 
 === Starting check for build dependencies === Gathering dependency
 list for devel/icu from ports === Launching child to update
 pkg-1.0.3_1 to pkg-1.0.4_1
 
 === icu-4.8.1.1_1 1/1  pkg-1.0.3_1 (1/16)
 
 === Currently installed version: pkg-1.0.3_1 === Port directory:
 /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
 
 === Starting check for build dependencies === Gathering dependency
 list for ports-mgmt/pkg from ports === No dependencies for
 ports-mgmt/pkg
 
 ===  Cleaning for pkg-1.0.4_1 You are about to convert your system to
 pkgng while you have ports/packages installed with the old pkg_install
 tools.
 
 You can choose to:
 - keep pkg_install as the package management system by adding this line
 to /etc/make.conf:
 
 WITHOUT_PKGNG=yes
 
 - switch to pkgng:
 1) Add WITHOUT_PKGNG to /etc/make.conf 2) Install ports-mgmt/pkg 3)
 Convert your package database by running pkg2ng 4) Remove
 WITHOUT_PKGNG from /etc/make.conf
 
 *** [pre-everything] Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg.
 
 === make failed for ports-mgmt/pkg === Aborting update
 
 === Update for pkg-1.0.3_1 failed === Aborting update
 
 
 Is this a know problem or the there someting in the UPDATING file not
 mentioned?
 In /etc/make.conf I have:
 WITH_PKGNG=yes (as descriped in 20121015)

What's the output from pkg_info?
Have you done any other upgrades of ports since migrating to pkgng?

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Re: Upgrade icu failed

2012-12-23 Thread Matthias Fechner

Am 23.12.12 17:29, schrieb Walter Hurry:
 What's the output from pkg_info?

pkg info gives me a full list of all installed ports, pkg_info complains
about a lot of corrupted package infos, but i think this is related to,
pkg is new and pkg_info is the old tool.

 Have you done any other upgrades of ports since migrating to pkgng?

yes, I did my last upgrade 12.12.2012.
Till the note in /usr/ports/UPDATING 20121212.
After these steps I executed portmaster -a, which was successfully.

Thanks,
Matthias

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Re: Upgrade icu failed

2012-12-23 Thread Walter Hurry

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:44:26 +0100, Matthias Fechner wrote:

 Am 23.12.12 17:29, schrieb Walter Hurry:
 What's the output from pkg_info?
 
 pkg info gives me a full list of all installed ports, pkg_info complains
 about a lot of corrupted package infos, but i think this is related to,
 pkg is new and pkg_info is the old tool.
 
 Have you done any other upgrades of ports since migrating to pkgng?
 
 yes, I did my last upgrade 12.12.2012.
 Till the note in /usr/ports/UPDATING 20121212.
 After these steps I executed portmaster -a, which was successfully.

pkg_info should be reporting 'no packages installed'.
What is the output from pkg2ng?

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Re: upgrade of portupgrade

2012-04-23 Thread Shane Ambler


On 23/04/2012 17:13, n dhert wrote:

Today, my nightly run of portsnap informed me there is un update
for: # pkg_version -vIL= portupgrade-2.4.9.3.2  needs updating
(index has 2.4.9.3_1,2)



=  SHA256 Checksum mismatch for pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2.^M ===
Giving up on fetching files: pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2 ^M Make sure
the Makefile and distinfo file
(/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/dist info)^M are up to date.  If
you are absolutely sure you want to override this^M check, type make
NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args].^M *** Error code 1^M




What's this problem with  pkgtools ??? I have a $ ls -la
/usr/ports/distfiles/pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2 -rw-r--r--  1 root
wheel  79394 Aug 23  2011
/usr/ports/distfiles/pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2 but no 2.4.9.3_1,2
version

And, strange: if I try http://www.freebsd.org/ports, Search for
pkgtools in All it finds nothing  ???  Isn't that package described
??

What's going on here and how to solve it ??


The issue would appear to be the recent update was messed up. You are 
getting an error as the distfile you have has a different md5sum than 
what was saved to the port files.


pkgtools is the name of the project, even though the sourceforge project
name and the port name is portupgrade. On github it is pkgtools.

I would guess the port name was chosen to prevent conflicts with pkg_* 
named tools in the base system.


I would wait for the maintainer to sort things out. Currently you can
download a tar.gz from github or a tar.bz from sourceforge both
identified as 2.4.9.3 but there is some file differences between them.

As this is a new maintainer just taken over the port about a week ago
you may want to email them or submit a pr.
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Re: upgrade of portupgrade

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Powell

n dhert wrote:

 Today, my nightly run of portsnap informed me there is un update for:
 # pkg_version -vIL=
  portupgrade-2.4.9.3.2   needs updating (index has 2.4.9.3_1,2)
 
 Since there is no special entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the
 portupgrade  update,
 I started my weekly
 # portupgrade -yaRrpb
 
 this gives:
 ...
 ---  Upgrade of ports-mgmt/portupgrade started at: Mon, 23 Apr 2012
 08:37:14 +0
 200
 ---  Upgrading 'portupgrade-2.4.9.3,2' to 'portupgrade-2.4.9.3_1,2'
 (ports-mgmt
 /portupgrade)
 ---  Build of ports-mgmt/portupgrade started at: Mon, 23 Apr 2012
 08:37:14 +020
 0
 ---  Building '/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade'
 ===  Cleaning for portupgrade-2.4.9.3_1,2^M
 ===  License BSD accepted by the user^M
 ===  Found saved configuration for portupgrade-2.4.6,2^M
 ===  Extracting for portupgrade-2.4.9.3_1,2^M
 = SHA256 Checksum mismatch for pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2.^M
 ===  Refetch for 1 more times files: pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2 ^M
 ===  License BSD accepted by the user^M
 ===  Found saved configuration for portupgrade-2.4.6,2^M
 = pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in
 /usr/ports/distfiles/.^M
 = Attempting to fetch
 http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/portupgrade/pkgt
 ools/2.4.9.3/pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2^M
 fetch:
 http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/portupgrade/pkgtools/2.4.9.3/pkg
 tools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2: Moved Temporarily^M
 it does 5 more at other places, then
 = Attempting to fetch
 http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/portupgrade/pkgt
 ools/2.4.9.3/pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2^M
 fetch: pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2: local file (79394 bytes) is longer than
 remote
 file (79377 bytes)^M
 ...
 then 10 more 'Attempting to fetch' with Moved temporarily
 then
 = Attempting to fetch
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/pkgtool
 s-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2^M
 ===  License BSD accepted by the user^M
 ===  Found saved configuration for portupgrade-2.4.6,2^M
 = SHA256 Checksum mismatch for pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2.^M
 ===  Giving up on fetching files: pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2 ^M
 Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file
 (/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/dist
 info)^M
 are up to date.  If you are absolutely sure you want to override this^M
 check, type make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args].^M
 *** Error code 1^M
 ^M
 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade.^M
 *** Error code 1^M
 ^M
 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade.^M
 *** Error code 1^M
 ^M
 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade.^M
 ---  Build of ports-mgmt/portupgrade ended at: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:37:45
 +0200
 (consumed 00:00:30)
 ---  Upgrade of ports-mgmt/portupgrade ended at: Mon, 23 Apr 2012
 08:37:45 +020
 0 (consumed 00:00:30)
 
 What's this problem with  pkgtools ???
 I have a
 $ ls -la /usr/ports/distfiles/pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  79394 Aug 23  2011
 /usr/ports/distfiles/pkgtools-2.4.9.3.tar.bz2
 but no 2.4.9.3_1,2  version
 
 And, strange: if I try
 http://www.freebsd.org/ports, Search for  pkgtools in All
 it finds nothing  ???  Isn't that package described ??

Search for portupgrade instead.
 
 What's going on here and how to solve it ??

I just did this upgrade utilizing portupgrade 2 days ago - 04/20/12 03:34 
and did not experience any trouble. However, I noticed the name of the file 
that was downloaded here was: pkgtools-pkgtools-b99f3ce.tar.gz. This file was 
98949 bytes in size.

Today I have csup'd my ports tree and did a make fetch for this port and it 
downloaded a file of the same name as you have described. This file is 79377 
bytes in size. I did a make for the port and it again built without error.

Sounds like something was out of sync at the time you tried this. Try 
refreshing your ports again and see if it has been fixed. Also consider the 
possibility that the mirror you were using wasn't completely up to date. 
Either the mirror will have caught up since then, or try another mirror.

-Mike




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Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed..

2012-04-08 Thread krad

On 8 April 2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. airosov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings all,

 It's my 1st time on any of the FreeBSD lists  I'm fairly new to FreeBSD to
 please bear with me..

 So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0  now the system can't mount in single
 user mode to go through the final step of installing the world..

 # cvsup.. Done..
 # make buildworld..  Done..
 # make buildkernel.. Done..
 # make installkernel.. Done..
 # reboot in single user mode to install world.. Failed to mount to
 /dev/ad2s1a.. {Yes, that *is* my HD}

 I rebooted from the loader prompt with my old (GENERIC) kernel  came up
 with the following..

 peggy# ls -l /dev/ad*
 crw-r-  1 root  operator    0,  79 Apr  8 08:47 /dev/ad2
 crw-r-  1 root  operator    0,  82 Apr  8 08:47 /dev/ad2s1
 crw-r-  1 root  operator    0,  84 Apr  8 08:47 /dev/ad2s1a

 peggy# cat /etc/fstab
 # Device        Mountpoint    FStype    Options        Dump    Pass#
 /dev/ad2s1a        /        ufs    rw        1    1
 /dev/acd0        /cdrom        cd9660    ro,noauto    0    0

 peggy# disklabel /dev/ad2s1a
 # /dev/ad2s1a:
 8 partitions:
 #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a: 20044017        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
   c: 20044017        0    unused        0     0         # raw part,
 don't edit

 peggy# fsck
 ** /dev/ad2s1a (NO WRITE)
 ** Last Mounted on /
 ** Root file system
 ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
 ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
 ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
 ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
 ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
 415735 files, 3148200 used, 1702923 free (40563 frags, 207795 blocks, 0.8%
 fragmentation)

 peggy# kldstat
 Id Refs Address    Size     Name
  1    7 0xc040 bb5504   kernel
  2    1 0xc2e1a000 26000    linux.ko


 I know there's many 'mount' problem discussions out there but I can't seem
 to find out how to overcome this problem..

 Many thanx in advance for any assistance..

 Regards,
 E.
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try specifying 'ufs:/dev/adas1a' at the kernel prompt or editing that
into you fstab if you can. My devices changed and the 8-9 jump.
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Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed..

2012-04-08 Thread Matthew Seaman

On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. wrote:
 So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0  now the system can't mount in single
 user mode to go through the final step of installing the world..
 
 # cvsup.. Done..
 # make buildworld..  Done..
 # make buildkernel.. Done..
 # make installkernel.. Done..
 # reboot in single user mode to install world.. Failed to mount to
 /dev/ad2s1a.. {Yes, that *is* my HD}
 

As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to
the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices.

One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the
loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode -- which is fine,
but you'ld have to go through the same sort of rigmarole again to revert
back to 8.1 should that be necesssary.  The preferred method nowadays is
to label the partitions.  There are three options:

   glabel(8) -- generic labels for geom devices, which will appear in
 /dev/label/foo

   tunefs(8) -- specifically the -L option.  For UFS, labels will
 appear as /dev/ufs/foo

   gpart(8) -- GPT partitioning has built-in label support. Devices
 appear as /dev/gpt/foo

(Additionally partitions can be referred to by uuid for the tunefs and
gpart labelling schemes, but that's not relevant here.)  Quite why
FreeBSD needs so many different labelling schemes escapes me.

gpart(8) labelling is the default for new installs of 9.0.  However,
given you're upgrading from 8.1, then you will likely be using MBR +
bsdlabel oldstyle partitioning, so probably tunefs(8) labelling would be
the best choice to get you through the 8.1 - 9.0 reboot.

ie.  Create the label:

# tunefs -L ROOT /dev/as2s1a

then edit /etc/fstab so the line for the root filesystem reads like so:

/dev/ufs/ROOT   /   ufs rw  0   1

Repeat this for all the other UFS filesystems you have -- a good system
is to label them according to their mountpoint (USR, VAR, HOME, LOCAL,
and so forth.)

This should work with both 8.1 and 9.0 kernels -- however, untested, so
apply appropriate levels of caution.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed..

2012-04-08 Thread Warren Block


On Sun, 8 Apr 2012, Airoso?icz fb. wrote:


It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from
ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original
post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1  ad2s1a do..


ada device numbering is relative, so the first drive found is always 
ada0.  If there are no ada devices in /dev at all, I'd guess too much 
has been removed from the custom kernel.



# man 8 tunefs: The tunefs can not be run on an active filesystem.
To change an active filesystem it must be downgraded to read only or
to unmounted.. [Which I've done with # mount -r -f..]

# tunefs: /dev/ad2s1a: failed to write superblock..

I've updated the /etc/fstab with the ROOT label but I can't get the
single-user mount nor the tunefs to work..


http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html shows a full 
example.

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Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed..

2012-04-08 Thread Joshua Isom


On 4/8/2012 8:51 AM, Airosoβicz fb. wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Thanx for the quick reply.. Can't get it to work though..

On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. wrote:

So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0  now the system can't mount in single
user mode to go through the final step of installing the world..






As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to
the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices.



It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from
ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original
post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1  ad2s1a do..



One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the
loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode



  Which boot device..? I wish it was simple..



When you get to the loader, escape to the loader prompt.  Then type 
lsdev to see what the loader finds.  You'll have to find which one looks 
right, and type that into the mount failed prompt.  After it's done 
booting, check /dev to make sure it looks right and change your fstab.

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Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed..

2012-04-08 Thread Da Rock


On 04/09/12 02:17, Joshua Isom wrote:

On 4/8/2012 8:51 AM, Airosoβicz fb. wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Thanx for the quick reply.. Can't get it to work though..

On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. wrote:
So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0  now the system can't mount in 
single

user mode to go through the final step of installing the world..






As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to
the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices.



It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from
ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original
post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1  ad2s1a 
do..




One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the
loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode



  Which boot device..? I wish it was simple..



When you get to the loader, escape to the loader prompt.  Then type 
lsdev to see what the loader finds.  You'll have to find which one 
looks right, and type that into the mount failed prompt.  After it's 
done booting, check /dev to make sure it looks right and change your 
fstab.


From a theoretical point of view (I'll have to consider this for my own 
needs in the near future) I'd say the labeling option mentioned by 
Warren would be better for the long term. It may seem a little 
complicated to setup but it will work just about anywhere.


If you continue with devices as you are at the moment you run the risk 
of having this trouble every time something changes.


My 2c.
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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-15 Thread Dick Hoogendijk


Op 14-1-2012 17:04, Mike Clarke schreef:

On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works.
Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS
support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment.
BE's rock!

Yes, it's working fine here.

[...]
Thank you very much for giving these examples. Sounds really nice. Have 
not tried it yet however.
Still feel it's a pity FreeBSD did not incorporate the creation and 
managing of BE's within the system.

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-14 Thread Dick Hoogendijk


Op 13-1-2012 15:00, Polytropon schreef:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:42:03 +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r
9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats.

Source update also shouldn't be a problem.
Setup your CVS supfile to get the 9.0-RELEASE
sources and follow the instructions in the
handbook and in /usr/src/Makefile's comment
header.
I will use the binary upgrade path. It seems easier for a non high-tech 
system ;-)
My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to hear 
if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such a 
system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system that 
won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs.

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-14 Thread Mike Clarke

On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

 My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to
 hear if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such
 a system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system
 that won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs.

Have you considerd using manageBE 
http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/wiki/manageBE? With 
this tool you can set up cloned alternative Boot-Environments (BE) so 
that you can go back to your old BE if the new one doesn't work.

I'm in the process of upgrading to 9.0 and taking the opportunity of 
changing over to ZFS. I needed to re-arrange my filesystem structure to 
boot from tank/ROOT/someBEname/ instead of tank/ (and make sure the 
mountpoints of any descendent file systems are suitably adjusted) but 
it was worth the effort.

I installed 9.0-RC2 from the ISO onto a spare drive so I haven't done an 
8 to 9 binary upgrade but I have used freebsd-update to upgrade from 
9.0-RC2 to 9.0-RELEASE and that went through without any problems. 

-- 
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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-14 Thread Dick Hoogendijk


Op 14-1-2012 12:37, Mike Clarke schreef:

On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to
hear if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such
a system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system
that won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs.

Have you considerd using manageBE
http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/wiki/manageBE? With
this tool you can set up cloned alternative Boot-Environments (BE) so
that you can go back to your old BE if the new one doesn't work.


I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works. 
Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS 
support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment. BE's 
rock!

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-14 Thread Mike Clarke

On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

 I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works.
 Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS
 support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment.
 BE's rock!

Yes, it's working fine here.

You can even upgrade a new environment while you continue working with 
the current one with

   manageBE create -n newBE -s sourceBE -p pool
   manageBE freebsd-upgrade -n newBE -p pool -r release
   manageBE activate -n newBE -p pool

Then reboot into the new BE and complete the upgrade with the 
final freebsd-update install step. But I needed to 
change chroot /${bootfs} near the end of the script 
to chroot /${pool}/ROOT/${bootfs} to get manageBE freebsd-upgrade 
command to work.

Along similar lines, if you need to do a massive ports upgrade which you 
suspect might go pear shaped then you can do it in a new BE without 
upsetting your working system:

   chroot /tank/ROOT/newBE mount -t devfs devfs /dev
   chroot /tank/ROOT/newBE portmaster -a
   chroot /tank/ROOT/newBE umount /dev

... then, if all went well,  activate the new BE and reboot.

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-13 Thread Bas Smeelen

On 01/13/2012 02:42 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
 I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
 I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r
 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats.
 My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to be
 recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job.  I always use
 portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? Or
 is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some
 pointers if possible.
 Thanks.
 _
It works great with source upgrade, so freebsd-update should not be a
problem but i haven't used it yet to upgrade to 9.
It is used like this: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade  (i.e. not fetch)
See also the handbook for a good explanation

You can use portmaster --list-origins to make a list of all root and leaf
ports and use this to reinstall all ports after the upgrade.
See man portmaster for a good example.

Or you can use portmaster -af to recompile all ports.


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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-13 Thread Polytropon

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:42:03 +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
 I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
 I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r 
 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats.

Source update also shouldn't be a problem.
Setup your CVS supfile to get the 9.0-RELEASE
sources and follow the instructions in the
handbook and in /usr/src/Makefile's comment
header.



 My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to 
 be recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job. 

Not have to, but it's often considered
best practice. If you don't want to
recompile all your ports, make sure two
things are met:

1. You have COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in your kernel.

2. You have compat8x-i386-8.2.12345.67890
   installed (or amd64 respectively).

This will work as long as you're not starting
to install something new (which may cause
library version trouble).

However, using a port management tool to do
the job of update all ports is often highly
recommended.



 I always use 
 portmaster.

Did you look into its manual already? :-)



 Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? 

Depends. A possible approach is that you make
a list of your primary ports, i. e. the stuff
that you are _really_ intending to use, where
secondary ports they depend on (i. e. the
dependencies) are not mentioned, as they will
be installed anyway. So for example, if firefox
is on your list as you intend to use it, there's
no need to list all its dependencies as well
because they are implicit.



 Or is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some 
 pointers if possible.

Sure. See man portmaster, section EXAMPLES,
where you'll find Using portmaster to do a
complete reinstallation of all your ports
with a complete procedure.




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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-13 Thread Dick Hoogendijk


Op 13-1-2012 14:56, Bas Smeelen schreef:

On 01/13/2012 02:42 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r
9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats.
My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to be
recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job.  I always use
portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? Or
is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some
pointers if possible.
Thanks.
_

It works great with source upgrade, so freebsd-update should not be a
problem but i haven't used it yet to upgrade to 9.
It is used like this: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade  (i.e. not fetch)
See also the handbook for a good explanation

You can use portmaster --list-origins to make a list of all root and leaf
ports and use this to reinstall all ports after the upgrade.
See man portmaster for a good example.

Or you can use portmaster -af to recompile all ports.
Ah, yes, I remember the latter is disadviced because some ports can have 
differences so you have some garbage if you run portmaster -af
I will look up the example in the manual. It also will tell me 
(probably) if all ports have to be removed beforehand or that this does 
not matter.

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-13 Thread Matthias Fechner

Hi,

Am 13.01.2012 14:42, schrieb Dick Hoogendijk:
 I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
 I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r
 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats.

I did last week a source upgrade and the new generic kernel has not able
to detected my hard disks anymore and therefor the system could not be
booted, because the zfs file system was not mountable anymore.

But if some users are reporting here good results, I maybe will try it
again.

Bye
Matthias

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produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning. --
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Re: Upgrade/Change of ARCH

2011-09-28 Thread Matthew Seaman

On 28/09/2011 21:17, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 I have a 8.2-STABLE server which I am considering upgrading. I have a full
 backup on a disk so no worries about receovery.
 
 1. I'd like to upgrade this server to 9.0-BETA3. What cvs tag should I use?
 Is *default release=cvs tag=. okay?

No -- you want RELENG_9 for that.

 2. Is it possible/safe to change ARCH? Like I'd like to change from i386 tp
 amd64. What is the procedure?

i386 to amd64 is probably not impossible, but moving from one arch to
another one by compiling source and upgrading is serious guru level
stuff.  Apart from anything else cross compiling to amd64 binaries on an
i386 system is a potential source of grief.

The best and surest way to change arch is to do a complete reinstall
from scratch.  Wipe out your i386 system and overwrite the space with
amd64 from install media.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2

2011-08-23 Thread Stanislav Sedov

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:18:28 +0200
Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it mentioned:

 On 08/21/11 08:26, n dhert wrote:
  I did a portupgrade on a freebsd 8.2-RELEASE
  of the portupgrade program itself
  portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2needs updating (index has 2.4.9,2)
  (that upgraded also ruby to 1.9:
 
 I did the same on some boxes and I'm having a lot of troubles too...
 
 # pkgdb -L
 Look for lost dependencies:
 undefined method `map' for #String:0x0801e60218
 

Hi!

Can you, please, try the portupgrade version from the ports?
It should fix those issues.

Sorry for the inconvinences!

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Re: upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2

2011-08-23 Thread Andrea Venturoli


On 08/23/11 09:58, Stanislav Sedov wrote:

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:18:28 +0200
Andrea Venturolim...@netfence.it  mentioned:


On 08/21/11 08:26, n dhert wrote:

I did a portupgrade on a freebsd 8.2-RELEASE
of the portupgrade program itself
portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2 needs updating (index has 2.4.9,2)
(that upgraded also ruby to 1.9:


I did the same on some boxes and I'm having a lot of troubles too...

# pkgdb -L
Look for lost dependencies:
undefined method `map' for #String:0x0801e60218



Hi!

Can you, please, try the portupgrade version from the ports?
It should fix those issues.


Not really.

I tried portupgrade -R portupgrade, but still had a messed-up system.
Since I don't use Ruby for much and had only portupgrade and libchk 
using it, I wiped them all and reinstalled portupgrade from scratch. 
This also reinstalled ruby.

I'm still getting undefined method `map'... when I run pkgdb, however.


# pkg_info -r portupgrade\*
Information for portupgrade-2.4.9.2,2:

Depends on:
Dependency: libyaml-0.1.4_1
Dependency: openssl-1.0.0_5
Dependency: pkg-config-0.25_1
Dependency: libffi-3.0.9
Dependency: ruby-1.9.2.290,1






Sorry for the inconvinences!


You're welcome, I appreciate your work and help.

 bye  Thanks
av.
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Re: upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2

2011-08-23 Thread Stanislav Sedov

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:00:48 +0200
Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it mentioned:

 On 08/23/11 09:58, Stanislav Sedov wrote:
  On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:18:28 +0200
  Andrea Venturolim...@netfence.it  mentioned:
 
  On 08/21/11 08:26, n dhert wrote:
  I did a portupgrade on a freebsd 8.2-RELEASE
  of the portupgrade program itself
  portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2 needs updating (index has 2.4.9,2)
  (that upgraded also ruby to 1.9:
 
  I did the same on some boxes and I'm having a lot of troubles too...
 
  # pkgdb -L
  Look for lost dependencies:
  undefined method `map' for #String:0x0801e60218
 
 
  Hi!
 
  Can you, please, try the portupgrade version from the ports?
  It should fix those issues.
 
 Not really.
 
 I tried portupgrade -R portupgrade, but still had a messed-up system.
 Since I don't use Ruby for much and had only portupgrade and libchk 
 using it, I wiped them all and reinstalled portupgrade from scratch. 
 This also reinstalled ruby.
 I'm still getting undefined method `map'... when I run pkgdb, however.
 

Hi!

Are you sure you have the latest one (2.4.9.2_2,2).
If not, you can grab it from here: 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/ (the page 
has a small download as a tarball link
at the bottom).

Let me know if it works!
Thanks!

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Re: upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2

2011-08-23 Thread Andréas Berg

  

This ruby+portupgrade upgrade seems to be quite a mess. My systems
fetch new ports tree nightly and I upgrade during the day when I have
some spare time. 

So, this morning my systems had the new ruby versions
and the UPDATING instruction, but not the new portupgrade port version
(not that it had helped, but anyway). So, portupgrade -fr lang/ruby18
failed. 

Right now, I've got one system (the less critical one)
upgraded with the latest and portupgrade is still failing. The other I
backed down to ruby18 and portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2 and that works.


Information from the upgraded system:

# pkg_info -Ia | egrep
'ruby|portupgrade'
portupgrade-2.4.9.2_2,2 FreeBSD ports/packages
administration and management tool s
ruby-1.9.2.290,1 An object-oriented
interpreted scripting language
ruby19-bdb-0.6.6 Ruby interface to
Sleepycat's Berkeley DB revision 2 or lat

Here's an example failure
output. I get the same errors whatever port I try to upgrade..

#
portupgrade -f portupgrade-2.4.9.2_2,2
--- Session started at: Tue, 23
Aug 2011 11:10:02 +0200
--- ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0
skipped and 1 failed
--- Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored /
*:skipped / !:failed)
 ! ports-mgmt/portupgrade
(portupgrade-2.4.9.2_2,2) (can't modify frozen string)
--- Packages
processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
--- Saving the
results to '/var/log/portupgrade.results'
** Failed to save the results:
undefined method `install_data' for #
--- Session ended at: Tue, 23 Aug
2011 11:10:08 +0200 (consumed 00:00:05)

Regards,

Andréas

On Tue, 23
Aug 2011 11:00:48 +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: 

 On 08/23/11 09:58,
Stanislav Sedov wrote:
 
 On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:18:28 +0200 Andrea
Venturoli mentioned: 
 
 On 08/21/11 08:26, n dhert wrote: 


 I did a portupgrade on a freebsd 8.2-RELEASE of the portupgrade
program itself portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2 needs updating (index has 2.4.9,2)
(that upgraded also ruby to 1.9:
 I did the same on some boxes and
I'm having a lot of troubles too... # pkgdb -L Look for lost
dependencies: undefined method `map' for #
 Hi! Can you, please, try
the portupgrade version from the ports? It should fix those issues.
 

Not really.
 
 I tried portupgrade -R portupgrade, but still had a
messed-up system.
 Since I don't use Ruby for much and had only
portupgrade and libchk 
 using it, I wiped them all and reinstalled
portupgrade from scratch. 
 This also reinstalled ruby.
 I'm still
getting undefined method `map'... when I run pkgdb, however.
 
 #
pkg_info -r portupgrade* Information for portupgrade-2.4.9.2,2: Depends
on: Dependency: libyaml-0.1.4_1 Dependency: openssl-1.0.0_5 Dependency:
pkg-config-0.25_1 Dependency: libffi-3.0.9 Dependency:
ruby-1.9.2.290,1
 Sorry for the inconvinences! 
 
 You're welcome, I
appreciate your work and help.
 
 bye  Thanks
 av.

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Re: upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2

2011-08-23 Thread Andrea Venturoli


On 08/23/11 11:11, Stanislav Sedov wrote:


Are you sure you have the latest one (2.4.9.2_2,2).
If not, you can grab it from here: 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/ (the page has a small 
download as a tarball link
at the bottom).


You are right: I had just csupped, and saw a portupgrade update, but 
it was not _2. Probably it.cvsup.freebsd.org is a little behind :-)





Let me know if it works!


For pkgdb, so far, so fine.

I'm still getting stack level too deep (see other post), but this is 
not on all boxes and I'm investigating it.




Thanks a lot.

 bye
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Re: Upgrade path from STABLE to RELEASE

2011-01-10 Thread Mike Clarke

On Friday 07 January 2011, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 Your choices are to backup and reinstall using a release version,
 or to grab the latest -STABLE or -RELEASE sources and upgrade by
 compiling from source.  Note that last option still won't allow you
 to use freebsd-update subsequently: you have to stick with the
 binaries from the install media for that to work.

This has got me puzzled. I appreciate that freebsd-update won't update 
the sources so an attempt to recompile after using freebsd-update to 
change between versions will lead to trouble unless the new sources are 
also downloaded but I'd assumed that freebsd-update would manage to 
update the binaries irrespective of whether they'd been installed as 
binary downloads or compiled locally.

My present system started as 8.0-RELEASE, installed as a binary from 
DVD. I subsequently used csup to upgrade through 8.1-STABLE and 
8.1-RELEASE. I've been using freebsd-update to keep 8.1-RELEASE up to 
date with the latest security patches. I didn't see any error messages 
when I ran freebsd-update so I assumed that everything went fine. Is 
there something I've overlooked and should I recompile from source to 
be safe?

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Re: Upgrade path from STABLE to RELEASE

2011-01-07 Thread Matthew Seaman

On 07/01/2011 11:14, Paul Macdonald wrote:

 I have a box which i installed 7.0 stable on and i want to do a binary
 update to 8.1 REL, is this possible via the freebsd-update utility?
 
 freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade
 Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found.
 Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed.
 Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed.
 Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed.
 Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed.
 No mirrors remaining, giving up.
 
 (Its only on stable that it fails, works fine).

No. freebsd-update only works with -RELEASE branches, as you have
discovered for yourself.

Your choices are to backup and reinstall using a release version,
or to grab the latest -STABLE or -RELEASE sources and upgrade by
compiling from source.  Note that last option still won't allow you to
use freebsd-update subsequently: you have to stick with the binaries
from the install media for that to work.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Forget the manual process. Use tested procedures:
http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-7x-8x.txthttp://people.freebsd.org/%7Erse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-7x-8x.txt
I even used those procedures http://people.freebsd.org/%7Erse/upgrade/ to
upgrade one system from 6.4 to 7.x and finally to 8.1.

One thing you should note:
*s/*compat7x-`uname -m`-7.2.702000.200906.1.tbz*/*compat7x-`uname
-m`-7.3.703000.201008.tbz*/g*

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Uroš Gruber uros.gru...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I was looking for help about this on forum, but a the moment without
and luck. I would like to upgrade one of my servers from 7.2 release
to 8.1 stable. I've done this on other servers and all went well. But
with this one I can't get through. I'm testing all this in virtual
machine where I transfer all data from real server.

Here is my procedure

1. cd /usr/src
2. make update (using RELENG_8)
3. make cleanworld make cleandir
4. make buildworld
5. make buildkernel

Through here everything works, but from now on I tried manny different
steps but unfortunately I can't make it work.

If I run make installkernel and reboot the server with single user a
new kernel loads ok the only problem I have is that some of the
programs don't actually work. For example awk

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libm.so.5: version FBSD_1.0 required by
/usr/bin/awk

same problem is with ps, more etc.

If I continue to run mergemaster and make installworld nothing really
works, because installworld throws me a bunch of errors because some
of the utilities needed does not work at all.

So I tried other method. After make installworld I put server in
single user mode without restarting (shutdown now). From there I can
continue with

7. mergemaster -p
8. make installworld
9. make delete-old
10. make delete-old-lib
11. mergemaster

Btw I tried reversing order of step 10 and 11 but it make no difference.

Then I reboot the machine and first it looks I'll done my job well but
right after it started complaining about the same thing as with awk
but now with ps etc. and then crash with kldload process. The only
thing that it works is single user mode.

Because of all the problems with buildworld stuff i tried to use
freebsd-update utility but this one failed even more. So I abandon
this idea completely.

I would appreciate some help to successfully upgrade this server.
Fresh install is at the moment no option. Server is running 7.2
release with amd64 kernel.

Best regards

Uros
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Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3

2010-07-28 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

I did a source upgrade on one box from 6.4 to 7.2 or 7.3 without any problems.

I later did a source upgrade to 8.0 on the same machine just to find out that 
USB has some problems, I went then back to 7.3 on this machine.

I also did some source upgrades from 7.x to 8.0 on some other machines without 
any problems.

On Tuesday 27 July 2010 22:02:48 Michael Doyle wrote:
 
 In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving  
 between major version numbers
 but I would rather avoid that this time around.

I never did this since 5.2. The upgrades always worked for me.
 
 Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all  
 the way to version 8.1 ?

I would first install 7.3, check if all works and then do a source upgrade. 
Save the source tree for 7.3 just for the case you have to go back.
 
 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1

Not so new. Just like the machine which gave me the problem with 8.0. I never 
tried 8.1 on this machine.
 
 uhci0: UHCI (generic) USB controller port 0xcce0-0xccff irq 20 at  
 device 29.0 on pci0
 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 usb0: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci0
 usb0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered

Somewhere here were the problems.

 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1

You have Intel, I have NEC, so, you should not face the same problems I did. If 
they are not solved meanwhile.

 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 kbd0 at atkbd0
 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0

Just one note. You are managing this machine remotely? No X on it?

Take the two step approach and you should have a running system afterwards.

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Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3

2010-07-28 Thread krad

On 28 July 2010 11:47, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I did a source upgrade on one box from 6.4 to 7.2 or 7.3 without any
 problems.

 I later did a source upgrade to 8.0 on the same machine just to find out
 that USB has some problems, I went then back to 7.3 on this machine.

 I also did some source upgrades from 7.x to 8.0 on some other machines
 without any problems.

 On Tuesday 27 July 2010 22:02:48 Michael Doyle wrote:
 
  In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving
  between major version numbers
  but I would rather avoid that this time around.

 I never did this since 5.2. The upgrades always worked for me.


the jump from 4-5 was funk if i remember, due to the rc structure changing
completely and you would normally have wanted to take advantage of ufs2


 
  Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all
  the way to version 8.1 ?

 I would first install 7.3, check if all works and then do a source upgrade.
 Save the source tree for 7.3 just for the case you have to go back.
 
  CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1

 Not so new. Just like the machine which gave me the problem with 8.0. I
 never tried 8.1 on this machine.
 
  uhci0: UHCI (generic) USB controller port 0xcce0-0xccff irq 20 at
  device 29.0 on pci0
  uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
  usb0: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci0
  usb0: USB revision 1.0
  uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
  uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered

 Somewhere here were the problems.

  uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1

 You have Intel, I have NEC, so, you should not face the same problems I
 did. If they are not solved meanwhile.

  atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
  kbd0 at atkbd0
  atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
  psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0

 Just one note. You are managing this machine remotely? No X on it?


 Take the two step approach and you should have a running system afterwards.

 Erich
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Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3

2010-07-28 Thread Michael Doyle



On 28 Jul 2010, at 11:47, Erich Dollansky wrote:


Just one note. You are managing this machine remotely? No X on it?

Take the two step approach and you should have a running system  
afterwards.




It's a mail server, no X but I do have physical access.

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Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3

2010-07-27 Thread Erik Trulsson

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:02:48PM +0100, Michael Doyle wrote:
 I would like to upgrade a server that is currently running version 6.4  
 up to version 7.3
 Having looked at /usr/src/UPDATING on a 7.3 machine, I don't see any  
 major problems flagged.
 
 Given that I have console access to this machine, and I want to  
 preserve the user directories (it's our mail server)
 would I be better off doing a source upgrade or a binary upgrade?

Since you are running 6.4-STABLE, I think you will have to do a source
upgrade. AFAIK binary upgrades are only supported when going from one
-RELEASE to another (so 6.4-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE should be possible
with a binary upgrade, 6.4-STABLE to 7.3-RELEASE would not.)


 
 In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving  
 between major version numbers
 but I would rather avoid that this time around.
 
 Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all  
 the way to version 8.1 ?

Unless you have some specific reason to use 7.3 you might as well go
all the way up to 8.1. You should probably do it in two steps though - 
first from 6.4 to 7.3 and then from 7.3 to 8.1

Just remember to make good backups first, just in case something goes
wrong.  (There should not be any serious problems involved - the source
upgrades I have done from 6.x to 7.x and later from 7.x to 8.x were
fairly uneventful - but you never know what might happen.)


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Re: Upgrade 6.4-stable to 7.3

2010-07-27 Thread krad

On 27 July 2010 16:13, Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:02:48PM +0100, Michael Doyle wrote:
  I would like to upgrade a server that is currently running version 6.4
  up to version 7.3
  Having looked at /usr/src/UPDATING on a 7.3 machine, I don't see any
  major problems flagged.
 
  Given that I have console access to this machine, and I want to
  preserve the user directories (it's our mail server)
  would I be better off doing a source upgrade or a binary upgrade?

 Since you are running 6.4-STABLE, I think you will have to do a source
 upgrade. AFAIK binary upgrades are only supported when going from one
 -RELEASE to another (so 6.4-RELEASE to 7.3-RELEASE should be possible
 with a binary upgrade, 6.4-STABLE to 7.3-RELEASE would not.)


 
  In the past, I've usually done a wipe-and-reinstall when moving
  between major version numbers
  but I would rather avoid that this time around.
 
  Also, would people recommend staying with version 7.3 or jumping all
  the way to version 8.1 ?

 Unless you have some specific reason to use 7.3 you might as well go
 all the way up to 8.1. You should probably do it in two steps though -
 first from 6.4 to 7.3 and then from 7.3 to 8.1

 Just remember to make good backups first, just in case something goes
 wrong.  (There should not be any serious problems involved - the source
 upgrades I have done from 6.x to 7.x and later from 7.x to 8.x were
 fairly uneventful - but you never know what might happen.)


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I did a remote upgrade of our dns caches at work (24 boxes) from various 6.x
builds. I did it all from source, and in two steps, once to 7-STABLE then
once to 8-STABLE. It went fine in most cases. One thing i noticed though was
some of the boxes were in dangerously dedicated disk layout. The dev tree in
6.x and 7.x had devices in the format of /dev/ad0a and /dev/ad0s1a. However
8.x only presented /dev/ad0a devices, like you would predict. Whoever
origionally built the boxes had s1 type in the fstab which caught me out on
a few of them. Not ideal on remote boxes. Other than that though the
upgrades we nice and easy.

Make sure you recompile all your ports though with something like
portmaster. After you have done that do a make delete-old delete-old-libs
and delete-old-dirs from usr/src, once your done to clean up the base
distro.

here's my mergemaster conf to speed things up a little if you aren't
familier with it. Just make sure the ignore files is tailored to you then
run mergemaster with no flags

$ cat /etc/mergemaster.rc
AUTO_INSTALL=YES
AUTO_UPGRADE=YES
PRESERVE_FILES=yes
#IGNORE_FILES=/etc/rc.d/*

PRESERVE_FILES_DIR=/var/mergemaster/preserved-files-`date +%y%m%d-%H%M%S`

IGNORE_FILES=/etc/crontab /etc/fstab /etc/group /etc/hosts /etc/inetd.conf
/etc/make.conf /etc/master.passwd /etc/motd /etc/newsyslog.conf
/etc/ntp.conf /etc/ntp.drift /etc/profile /etc/rc.conf /etc/resolv.conf
/etc/services /etc/shells /etc/syslog.conf /etc/ssh/sshd_config
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub /etc/passwd /etc/rc.conf.local
/etc/zfs/exports /etc//namedb/named.conf /etc/periodic.conf /etc/hosts.allow
/etc/hosts /etc/pf.conf /etc/sysctl.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf
/etc/mail/aliases /etc/mail/mailer.conf /etc/remote
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Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8

2010-06-06 Thread Manolis Kiagias

On 06/06/2010 4:37 μ.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:
 hello,

 i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from
 8.0-release to stable-8.

 can you tell me a way to do this?

 thanks in advance
   

Since you are just starting with this, I would advise against it. Unless
you know STABLE contains something you really need (i.e. a must have
driver or fix for your particular hardware), I would say stay on RELEASE
until you are more comfortable with your system. Going from RELEASE to
STABLE involves recompiling the system from source. It is not really
difficult, but it will save you a lot of trouble if you first get better
acquainted with your system. If you would like to try it anyway, here
are the instructions:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/el/books/handbook/current-stable.html
(starting from 24.5.2)

Since you are experimenting and don't have any data on the system, you
may also wish to directly install one of the snapshots that will get you
directly to a STABLE system. You can find snapshot ISOs here:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201005/

or you may even wish to try 8.1-BETA1 which is also available in local
mirrors (like otenet):

ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.1/
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Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8

2010-06-06 Thread andrew clarke

On Sun 2010-06-06 13:37:58 UTC+, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terie...@gmail.com) 
wrote:

 i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from
 8.0-release to stable-8.
 
 can you tell me a way to do this?

My immediate thought was that if you can't work out how to update your
system to FreeBSD-STABLE then you probably shouldn't be doing that.

You should read the FreeBSD handbook then decide whether running
STABLE is actually what you want to do.  Particularly this page:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html

Most FreeBSD users install FreeBSD-RELEASE then use the freebsd-update
command to either patch it with security updates or upgrade to a newer
version of RELEASE.

As far as I know you can't use freebsd-update to upgrade to/from
STABLE, only RELEASE.

Regards
Andrew
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Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8

2010-06-06 Thread Polytropon

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:37:58 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 hello,
 
 i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from
 8.0-release to stable-8.
 
 can you tell me a way to do this?

Basically, this process contains two main steps: fetching the
sources, and compiling and installing the system.

Step 1 can easily be done by using csup (it's in the base) with
the following configuration:

This into /etc/make.conf:
SUP_UPDATE= yes
SUP=/usr/bin/csup
SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org
SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup

This into /etc/sup/stable.sup:
*default host=cvsup.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all

You can of course select a mirror near your location.

The tag= parameter selects what you will get, e. g. a certain
specifig RELEASE, patches for a RELEASE, STABLE, or even CURRENT.
The keyword RELENG_8 will give you 8-STABLE.

If you've updated your sorces, read /usr/src/UPDATING, and for the
steps how to start, refer to /usr/src/Makefile. You can also add
compiling options to /etc/make.conf to be involved here; a typical
setting could be setting CPUTYPE.

Then you start.

# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld buildkernel
# make installkernel

Then reboot into single user mode:

# reboot
...
Ok
boot -s
...

When arrived in single user mode, check your partitions via fsck,
and then mount them (mount -a).

# cd /usr/src
# mergemaster -p
# make installworld
# make delete-old
# mergemaster
# reboot

When you now have reached multi user mode again, finally do

# cd /usr/src
# make delete-old-libs

Check the result via

# uname -a

If you do have a custom kernel, add KERNCONF=name to the make
calls, e. g.

# make buildkernel KERNCONF=FOOBAR

or

# make installkernel KERNCONF=FOOBAR

respectively.

Finally, see the excellent documentation in the FreeBSD Handbook.
It should cover everything that hasn't been mentioned yet.


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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:10:32 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have
 successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come
 across a major problem for me.
 
 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)
 
 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's
 onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest
 I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into
 account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD
 when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly!

When you upgraded from 7 to 8, you need to recompile your ports
(or delete and re-install from packages). You can also install
the 7 compatibility libraries.



 OK I try sysinstall and find SAMBA isn't marked as installed. 

The sysinstall program doesn't know what's installed. It's just a
selection interface to the pkg_add program.



 I select samba for install but when installing SAMBA get a error
 code -1 (WTF is that all about REALLY USEFUL error message mate!)

The sysinstall program can't tell you what's the problem. The
pkg_add program probably exited with -1, and that's what sysinstall
is informing you about.



 Looked on google and keeps referring to PORTS being installed. 
 Tried the examples of how to install SAMBA but get loads of failed
 command line instructions - Doesn't say anything about installing 
 PORTS during initial installation.

At this moment, it would be useful if you could provide (1st) what
command you entered and (2nd) what the system responded.

Basically, in order to perform a major update of a system, you first
update your ports tree (e. g. using portsnap), then you enter the
port's directory in question and do make deinstall, followed by
make reinstall. You can of course use programs like portmaster,
portupgrade or portmanager to take care of this. For example, per-
forming the upgrade of all installed applications, the command
portupgrade -a can be used.

I may repeat: Major version updates of the OS usually require the
re-compilation of all installed ports.



 So I guess you can say I don't have Ports installed - why isn't
 this done automatically if its absolutely so critical for the OS
 to function right? 

In fact, it isn't. You can live without the ports collection. This
collection is just a subtree /usr/ports that is usually installed
together with the OS. You can use sysinstall to install the ports
collection after the system has been installed, or you can use
portsnap to obtain it. This subtree contains a hierarchy with
files describing how to handle (configure, install, deinstall, 
upgrade) applications. It is meant to make compiling programs
easier (no ./configure  make  make install), and there
are programs interfacing with this system.

If you don't want to use ports, use packages. This is usually
done through sysinstall or pkg_add (see man pkg_add), as well
as, for example, portinstall -PP samba (see man portupgrade)
which will install sanba by utilizing the ports tree, but not
by compiling - instead by getting the package.




 Error messages that mean nothing to the every day user.  

When you're dealing with ports and packages, you're not an every
day user (in terms of average user). In such a case, you shouldn't
even consider upgrading your system without reading the instructions
telling you how to do it.

I may politely point you at the excellent documentation provided
for FreeBSD - The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Feel free to read
more about OS and application upgrade there, and find out how easy
it is as soon as you *know* what to do.



 Apparently I am meant to have something called PORTS installed
 before I've even setup the server. 

No. You don't need the ports collection, and you can install it
whenever you want. Please read in the documentation what a port
exactly is, and what a package is.



 Im really beginning to lose my rag with this OS. 
 Is it meant for gurus only?

No.



 So what am I meant to do now. 

Maybe first you bring your ports tree up to date, then install
portupgrade, and finally do portupgrade -a. Before you do
this, read man portupgrade, and maybe man ports.


 Now I have XXX GB of data I cant access though SAMBA prior to the install?

I don't understand, sorry.



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

2010-06-03 Thread David Allen

On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully
 upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me.

 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)

 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's onto the
 server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have
 dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when
 upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this
 basic task seamlessly!

[snip rest of useless rant]

Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem
in ports that touches Samba.  Probably related to your Samba install
complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago:

bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1:
lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1

I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working.
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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Again Ports?   What is that about...  I've run the server and upgraded from 
7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before.  Its 
upgraded with no problem before.

How do I install Ports?  How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 
in sysinstall?




From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully
 upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me.

 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)

 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's onto the
 server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have
 dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when
 upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this
 basic task seamlessly!

[snip rest of useless rant]

Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem
in ports that touches Samba.  Probably related to your Samba install
complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago:

bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1:
lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1

I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working.
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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Re-including the list...

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:14:03 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Right how can I uninstall back to 7.2?

Well... I have to admit that I've never done that. Basically,
it should be possible if you install the sources of 7.2 (e. g.
from the CD) to overwrite /usr/src. Then you basically do what
the Handbook says about upgrading from source, or, to quote
from /usr/src/Makefile (worth reading its beginning):

#  1.  `cd /usr/src'   (or to the directory containing your source tree).
#  2.  `make buildworld'
#  3.  `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).
#  4.  `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE'   (default is GENERIC).
#   [steps 3.  4. can be combined by using the kernel target]
#  5.  `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt).
#  6.  `mergemaster -p'
#  7.  `make installworld'
#  8.  `make delete-old'
#  9.  `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai).
# 10.  `reboot'
# 11.  `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore)

This should then give you the 7.2 version of FreeBSD back - removing
everything that freebsd-update might have updated.



I am not sure if you can use freebsd-update for this task (but I
don't see why it should not be possible); in this case, refer to
man freebsd-update, especially the -r parameter (new release).



Maybe a third possibility is to install FreeBSD 7.2 from the
CD (I just assume you installed from CD or have the CD there),
without any formatting, just overwriting. But this may be
problematic - MAY, I'm not sure.



Sorry, I'm really lacking experience in downgrading a system, as
I have never done this, so I sadly can't be more specific. Maybe
somebody on-list can be more precise (that's why I took the freedom
to re-include the list, hope that's okay).



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find 
and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured 
accordingly.  Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing.  No 
matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade

From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Again Ports?   What is that about...  I've run the server and upgraded from 
7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before.  Its 
upgraded with no problem before.

How do I install Ports?  How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 
in sysinstall?

From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully
 upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me.

 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)

 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's onto the
 server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have
 dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when
 upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this
 basic task seamlessly!

[snip rest of useless rant]

Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem
in ports that touches Samba.  Probably related to your Samba install
complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago:

bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1:
lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1

I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working.
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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

ok so then running testparm i'm getting

leopard# testparm
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libcrypt.so.4 not found, required by 
testparm
leopard# 





From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:27:33
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Re-including the list...

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:14:03 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Right how can I uninstall back to 7.2?

Well... I have to admit that I've never done that. Basically,
it should be possible if you install the sources of 7.2 (e. g.
from the CD) to overwrite /usr/src. Then you basically do what
the Handbook says about upgrading from source, or, to quote
from /usr/src/Makefile (worth reading its beginning):

#  1.  `cd /usr/src'   (or to the directory containing your source tree).
#  2.  `make buildworld'
#  3.  `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).
#  4.  `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE'   (default is GENERIC).
#   [steps 3.  4. can be combined by using the kernel target]
#  5.  `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt).
#  6.  `mergemaster -p'
#  7.  `make installworld'
#  8.  `make delete-old'
#  9.  `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai).
# 10.  `reboot'
# 11.  `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore)

This should then give you the 7.2 version of FreeBSD back - removing
everything that freebsd-update might have updated.



I am not sure if you can use freebsd-update for this task (but I
don't see why it should not be possible); in this case, refer to
man freebsd-update, especially the -r parameter (new release).



Maybe a third possibility is to install FreeBSD 7.2 from the
CD (I just assume you installed from CD or have the CD there),
without any formatting, just overwriting. But this may be
problematic - MAY, I'm not sure.



Sorry, I'm really lacking experience in downgrading a system, as
I have never done this, so I sadly can't be more specific. Maybe
somebody on-list can be more precise (that's why I took the freedom
to re-include the list, hope that's okay).



-- 
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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...




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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Anyone want to log on to my server and investigate/correct?

From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:29:28
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find 
and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured 
accordingly.  Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing.  No 
matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade

From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Again Ports?   What is that about...  I've run the server and upgraded from 
7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before.  Its 
upgraded with no problem before.

How do I install Ports?  How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 
in sysinstall?

From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully
 upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me.

 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)

 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's onto the
 server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have
 dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when
 upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this
 basic task seamlessly!

[snip rest of useless rant]

Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem
in ports that touches Samba.  Probably related to your Samba install
complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago:

bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1:
lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1

I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working.
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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of:

 Message ─┐
  │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media.   

This is like a poorly written shareware app!
  Really getting pissd here!




From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:43:41
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Anyone want to log on to my server and investigate/correct?




From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:29:28
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find 
and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured 
accordingly.  Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing.  No 
matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade




From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Again Ports?   What is that about...  I've run the server and upgraded from 
7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before.  Its 
upgraded with no problem before.

How do I install Ports?  How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 
in sysinstall?




From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully
 upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me.

 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)

 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's onto the
 server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have
 dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when
 upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this
 basic task seamlessly!

[snip rest of useless rant]

Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem
in ports that touches Samba.  Probably related to your Samba install
complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago:

bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1:
lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1

I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working.
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Re: [#24536008] Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Ah seems like FTP as well as Samba is blocked after the upgrade   

I have ran FreeBSD 7 to 7.2 using the freebsd upgrade process painless in the 
past, however.. 

Have followed the instructions for upgrade 7.2 to 8.0-P3 from the FreeBSD 
website.  As I am not a FreeBSD guru all I can say is the update process is NOT 
a smooth process as per EVERY OTHER O/S in the open source market.  I 
appreciate the support you have given but whatever you suggest just doesn't 
work.

I am very angered being lead in to believing freebsd-update will be the able to 
update your OS - this isn't the case.  Does FreeBSD want to be a fanatics 
only OS?  No other OS's seems to have no such problems updating.   I have even 
offered access to my server to sort out the problem but no one has offered.   I 
just get cut/copy emails in reply that doesn't work.  After 5 years of painless 
usage perhaps I ought to look at another better support OS?




From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 22:02:05
Subject: [#24536008] Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Hello,

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Ticket number: 24536008
Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24536008
Ticket body: LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of:

Message ─┐
  │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media.  

This is like a poorly written shareware app!
  Really getting pissd here!




From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:43:41
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Anyone want to log on to my server and investigate/correct?




From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:29:28
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find 
and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured 
accordingly.  Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing.  No 
matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade




From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

Again Ports?   What is that about...  I've run the server and upgraded from 
7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before.  Its 
upgraded with no problem before.

How do I install Ports?  How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 
in sysinstall?




From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com
To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55
Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully
 upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me.

 OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry)

 After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working.   I TTL's onto the
 server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have
 dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when
 upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this
 basic task seamlessly!

[snip rest of useless rant]

Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem
in ports that touches Samba.  Probably related to your Samba install
complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago:

bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1:
lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1
wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1

I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working.
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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:21:29 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Again Ports?   What is that about...  I've run the server and
 upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any
 config files before.  Its upgraded with no problem before.

That's correct. Upgrading the base system usually doesn't require
you to upgrade your applications as well. The freebsd-update
binary updating program takes care of everything.



 How do I install Ports? 

The ports collection can be installed via sysinstall. Choose
configure - distributions - ports. The /usr/ports subtree will then
be installed.



 How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall?

You can first use pkg_delete to delete it, e. g.

# pkg_delete -x samba

and then re-install it from packages, e. g.

# pkg_add -r samba

See man pkg_add and man pkg_delete to make sure you're understanding
that you're doing the right thing.

I'm not sure if you need to explicitely add a version number for
samba as I am not using it.




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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

2010-06-03 Thread Manolis Kiagias

On 04/06/2010 12:01 π.μ., Andy Hiscock wrote:
 LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of:

  Message ─┐
   │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media.   

 This is like a poorly written shareware app!
   Really getting pissd here!



   

My guess is you need to do some reading first, it seems you are
administering a system you don't quite understand.
When doing a minor version upgrade (i.e. from 7.0 to 7.2) there is no
need to touch anything in the extra programs you've installed (hint:
those that come from packages or ports). Minor versions are binary
compatible (few apps may need some attention but this is rare). When you
do a major upgrade, you will be able to execute your 7.x installed apps
on 8.x. But by the time you start installing programs to your new
version, you will start replacing libraries of the 7.x system with new
ones and the programs compiled for 7.x will stop functioning.  My guess
is you already installed some packages from the 8.0 media, so this has
happened already.

The recommended path for such an upgrade is to upgrade all your
installed ports for your new system. Most people use ports (meaning they
build the software on their own machine, it is quite straightforward and
mostly automated) but it seems you are using packages. It should still
be possible to do this.

Please read the following section in the FreeBSD Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

esp. 24.2.3

When upgrading from packages, change the command:

portupgrade -af

to

portupgrade -af -PP

which effectively means: Use packages only

And yes, you will need a ports tree for portupgrade to work properly
(although you won't be compiling anything). You don't need to keep it
afterwords but it is handy to have and does not consume a lot of space.
So get one:

 portsnap fetch extract

And after finishing the upgrade, you can rm -rf /usr/ports if you don't
want to keep it.
You may wish to have a good read of the FreeBSD Handbook, esp. chapter 4
that deals with ports and packages.

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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:29:28 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt
 be able to find and identify and prepair everything that needs
 to be upgraded and reconfigured accordingly. 

Because this is the responsibility of the administrator - to decide
WHAT to upgrade, WHY and WHEN, and even HOW.

The base system tools (such as sysinstall, freebsd-upgrade) do not
have any clue about what's going on in /usr/local. This subtree is
reserved for installed applications (that do NOT belong to the
base system).

There are two files you should ALWAYS have a look at when performing
an update:

/usr/src/UPDATING
/usr/ports/UPDATING

They continue very important information for the person who does
the administration for a particular system, e. g. it tells you
that libxyz has gotten a major update and all applications linked
to this library need to be recompiled.



 Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing. 

I could come up with hundreds of other ideas what Inspecting system
could mean. :-)



 No matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade




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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:33:49 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 #  1.  `cd /usr/src'  (or to the directory containing your source tree).
 
 Doesn't exist

To install FreeBSD from source, you need to install the src
distribution, or get the desired sources via CVS (csup). There
are examples in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ for this paritular
task.


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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:38:22 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 ok so then running testparm i'm getting
 
 leopard# testparm
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libcrypt.so.4 not found, required by 
 testparm
 leopard# 

Seems like something failed during the update. Program version and
major OS release don't match.

This is a reason to install the compat- ports. For example, if you
are on 7.2 and update to 8.0, your system will run, but most of
your applications wouldn't. Installing misc/compat7x from ports
(or via pkg_add -r compat7x as a package) will provide the
libraries for compatibility to 7 on a 8 system. It's a good
solution if you don't want to recompile / reinstall, but
personally, I consider it a short-time solution. Of course,
there can be settings where this is your only solution, e. g.
if you have a binary that's compiled for 7, and you can not
compile it for 8 (because there is no source code).



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:01:25 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of:
 
  Message ─┐
   │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media.   

Do you obtain data via network (up  running checked?) or from CD?
If you know which package to install - if you know its NAME - why
bother with sysinstall? Simply use pkg_add -r name.



 This is like a poorly written shareware app!

No, I think it's acting completely as intended and predictable.
Maybe it's due to a partially failed upgrade process?



   Really getting pissd here!

You lack patience, maybe knowledge, at least experience. :-)
But that's no problem as long as you're willing to learn from
the given sources and hints.



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:38:42 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Ah seems like FTP as well as Samba is blocked after the upgrade   

This explains the error message presented. If you want to install
from FTP, but FTP can't reach anything, then... well... no INDEX
for you. :-)


 
 I have ran FreeBSD 7 to 7.2 using the freebsd upgrade process
 painless in the past, however.. 
 
 Have followed the instructions for upgrade 7.2 to 8.0-P3 from the
 FreeBSD website.  As I am not a FreeBSD guru all I can say is the
 update process is NOT a smooth process as per EVERY OTHER O/S in
 the open source market. 

I have different experiences, but that doesn't matter here. :-)



 I appreciate the support you have given but whatever you suggest
 just doesn't work.

Maybe because the conditions aren't meeting the requirements.



 I am very angered being lead in to believing freebsd-update will
 be the able to update your OS - this isn't the case. 

It IS the case. Keep in mind that FreeBSD differentiates between
the OS (which is updated by freebsd-update) and installed appli-
cations, or everything else, which is updated by the tools of
your choice (make update, portmaster, portmanager, portupgrade).

Check uname -r. Do you get a version number of the 8 branch?
If yes - update has been performed correctly.



 Does FreeBSD want to be a fanatics only OS? 

I'm not sure what it wants, but I may say that I'm not a fanatic,
but still using FreeBSD for many years nearly exclusively.



 No other OS's seems to have no such problems updating. 

I could show you some that have. :-)



 I have even offered access to my server to sort out the problem
 but no one has offered. 

Sorry, I don't think freebsd-questions@ is intended to fix your
problems for you, keeping you from learning important skills in
IT business.



 I just get cut/copy emails in reply that doesn't work. 

For my replies, I have no source where I do copy them from. I write
them by myself; copied things are obviously marked as copied (e. g.
some lines from /usr/src/Makefile).



 After 5 years of painless usage perhaps I ought to look at
 another better support OS?

Maybe you should. But 5 years or painless usage should convince you
that it may be worth to invest 5 hours to read, learn and repair.



If I would be impolite, I would ask you why you don't use your
backups to restore the has worked for 5 years state, but I know
how annoying a malfunctioning system can be.



Did you take the time to read man freebsd-update? I just did
it, and found this:

 rollback Uninstall the most recently installed updates.

(I copied this line from the manual page.)

Did you try

# freebsd-update rollback

For safety, this should be done in single-user mode. I'm not sure
if this really applies, but I'm a bit nervous anyway, so I do all
dangerous stuff in SUM, under least-dangerous circumstances. :-)


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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:02:44 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 leopard# pkg_delete -x samba
 pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/share/swat/js' doesn't exist
 pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/share/swat/js'
 pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is
 incorrectly specified?)
 WARNING: If you will *NOT* use this package anymore, please remove the
   following directories manually:
   /usr/local/etc/samba
   /var/log/samba
   /var/db/samba

That's okay.



 leopard# pkg_add -r samba
 Error: Unable to get 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz:
  File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 pkg_add: unable to fetch 
 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz'
  by URL

Ah, I guess you need to specify a version number. There are
different versions of Samba in the ports tree, so I think there
are also different packages, e. g. try

# pkg_add -r samba34

This should give you the latest version, 3.4. There's also 3, 
3.2 and 3.3 available (same naming scheme for the package).

Anyway, check if you can connect to (or just ping) ftp.freebsd.org
to make sure - REALLY SURE - that a connection is possible.



PS. Please try to avoid top-posting plus full quotes, or
quoted replies, it makes the list unreadable. Thanks!


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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:15:16 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 OK now I know...  Why should I have to know this in the fist place? 

Hey, that's no problem - I also learned about this some time
AFTER is has been common. :-)



 If Im just as User getting worrying messages about needing to
 upgrade. 

Where did those messages come from? FreeBSD 7.2 is still supported
and no problem to run. I even know a setting where somebody is
using a 4.0 server for internal backups.

You should consider thinking about updating more intensively. There
has just been a related discussion about this topic on this list.



 If I don't I am under the impression no security patches will be
 available? 

No. FreeBSD 7 (releases) still gets patches, allthough they are
called legacy. Depending on what you're doing with your server,
it may be wise to upgrade to 8 - or not - depends.



 The point I'm making to the end user, shouldn't a seamless
 update experience be achieved? :)

Usually, it does - honestly; freebsd-update and portupgrade -af,
and the show is running again. :-)




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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:20:50 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 well surely if the upgrade IS going to affect ANY pre installed
 package that should be taken into consideration? - Im not having
 a dig, Im just suggesting how FreeBSD has fallen behind in the
 User Experience

This depends on the users, not the OS. :-)

Honestly: How are system upgrading tools supposed to know what's
going on in the application area? There ARE tools to take care of
that - freebsd-update is not one of them. Of course it takes
knwoledge and experience to find out how to correctly perform an
update of the operating system AND the installed software, but
that's what you learn by using FreeBSD. I also did crash some
of my systems by skipping the step think, but it's a great
chance to learn, and if it's just how you dump  restore. :-)



 BTW I got an error after the last message:
 
 leopard# pkg_add -r samba
 Error: Unable to get 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz:
  File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 pkg_add: unable to fetch 
 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz'
  by URL
 leopard# 

Have you tried adding a version number, e. g. samba34?



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:29:28 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 I have sort of giving up and the cant be arsed Ill put windows on
 factor has stepped in. 

Have you considered entering single user mode and trying to get back
to 7.2 (freebsd-update rollback)? In this case, you will need to
re-install samba (you've removed it); but as you are already in 8,
have you tried pkg_add -r samba43?


 I understand config files and DOS scripting but BSD is unsupported?

Well, FreeBSD isn't DOS, nor is it Windows. It's a complex operating
system (as all operating systems are a complex thing), and it needs
more than knowledge about config files and scripts to maintain it
properly and provide good administration. But finally, that's what
you learn by using it.



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:32:56 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 I assume the only other solution is download all the CDs of the
 latest FreeBSD.  Do a clean install and replace the data? 

It's possible, but why reach for the big weapons in the first place?
Did you (1) check FTP is up  running, (2) run pkg_add -r samba34
or maybe (3) run freebsd-upüdate rollback in SUM?



 - This is not a clean upgrade admittedly!

I think the OS has been upgraded properly. What does uname -r say?


It would REALLY be helpful to see some output of the suggested
commands.



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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:47:57 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 I stopped reading after the line freebsd-update is not one of them. 

You're missing the best parts. :-)



 I know its not your fault.   But before progressing with technology
 perhaps support and support while upgrading is more important  - 
 especially when receiving alerts suggesting your version is no
 longer supported rather than failed installs being solved by people
 like yourself. 

FreeBSD has excellent support, in my opinion. The documentation
is far better than most things I've seen in other open source
projects. The mailing list is friendly and very helpful.

Where did you get alerts from that FreeBSD 7 isn't supported
anymore? Did you take the time to verify this? Allthough 7 is
a legacy release, it's still FULLY supported, and many users
are still using it.

You've received many suggestions from this mailing list, but I
fail to see that you're working with it. Without YOU, your
actions, your activity, the problem won't go away.

Of course, you can just copy your important data, then get
the install CD for FreeBSD 8 (or maybe install it via net,
which is very common), then install samba, and finally get
your data back onto the system. But from my diagnostics
(which are, in fact, mostly guessings, due to the lack of
information from you, your performed commands and the
respnses), I would not reach for such a big weapon at
this moment. It's far easier to upgrade your applications
(as your OS is already updated, just install the ports
subtree as suggested by Giorgos Keramidas - portsnap fetch
extract, then pkg_add -r portupgrade, and portupgrade
-af -PP). This should give you a working Samba (as well
as all other applications upgraded).

Always keep in mind: Upgrading a system is something that
you should do CAREFULLY. You can run into big trouble if
you do it wrong (as I know from my own experience). FreeBSD
is a system that does not tell you what you do and holds your
hand while it does what it thinks is the best for you; instead,
it does EXACTLY what you tell it to do. You can even take
that literally. :-)





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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:58:48 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 So am I lead to believe FreeBSD is mean to be a Mechanics
 Operating system?  I say that in the nicest way. 

I wouldn't go that far, but FreeBSD, as well as repairing a car,
requires certain knowledge and experience, I agree.



 We are not interested about the uneducated user.

But PC-BSD is interested in them. :-)

No, honestly, I don't want to insult PC-BSD. Maybe you should have
a look at it: It's a FreeBSD based operating system and application
bundle, just like a Linux distribution, and comes preconfigured
with KDE and many tools aiming at users who are not able or do not
want to know about their OS. It's an every day task system that
perfectly fits Joe Q. Sixpack users. And I really mean this as
a positive statement.

You should really take a look at their website to see if this is
what you want. By the way, PC-BSD is a good starting point for
better BSD education, but nothing is better than building your
own system from scratch. :-)



 or Leave the idiots to Windows/Mac or Linux point and click? 

Using a real operating system requires real knowledge. It is very
important to understand that computers aren't easy, in contra-
diction to what advertising wants people to believe.



 As updating my BSD version has been nothing but problems. 

Because you haven't fully performed it. To use a car analogy: You
put a new motor in the car, but you didn't connect it with all
the other parts inside the car, and you notice: Hey, I can't
drive this damn car! :-)



 The transition from BSD 7 to 8 is equivalent to a windows
 service pack or Mac OS release, both which happen seamlessly.

The transition from 7 to 8 involves more work than the transition
within 7. I think Giorgos Keramidas explained this better than I
did. Just imagine my fun when having to go from 5 to 7! I got
20 years older in one week. :-)




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Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:18:48 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 right scrolling to to top...  Gonna go back to VHS here..  
 Do a clean install as far as i'm concerned freebsd-update only
 works for patches and not for OS upgrades from experiences or
 considering ubuntu who's updates works. 

The freebsd-update program REALLY WORKS for OS updates. It
works for patches (i. e. staying within a certain release)
and even across major releases (e. g. from 7.2 to 8.0). As
I mentioned before: There's MORE you have to take care of.
If your applications are made for a version 7 system, and
you suddenly have a version 8 system, problems may occur,
for example if a library is required that's not present
anymore.



 Have to say after 2 years of using BSD am seriously
 disappointed with FreeBSD, every other OS perform a
 clean upgrade except 

I'm sad to hear that, as it contradicts my own experiences,
and surely those of other FreeBSD users.

There are users who update their OS and applications once
a week, and others once a month; others perform the update
when a new patchlevel is offered, and others do stay with
the same system for years (install once, then use). How
you handle things absolutely depends on your goals and
requirements. As FreeBSD leaves you the freedom to decide
what to do, YOU have to decide. That's what system administration
basically is: Decisions lead by knowledge, experience and
facts.



 With not support to fix online.

As I said, the mailing list is not a free support center 
with support in terms of what you usually get when paying
for a maintenance contract.



But did YOU already try to fix it? You got so much suggestions
of what to do and how. I'm missing your cooperation. It won't
fix itself, sorry.




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