Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-25 Thread Kalle Møller
Spot on.. My server is ipv6 ready.. (We are the hosting department of the
ISP if we should examine all ticket we get with.. Its the networks fault we
wouldn't do anything else :D )

And fetch -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002 is working fine.
So it must be that it tries ipv6 first.

Well thank you , I'm just gonna add the ipv6 interface after I've installed
vim.


On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 Kalle Møller wrote:
  Well any other port works flawless. It's only the vim ports (other =
 screen
  sudo wget bash apache22 mysql-server subversion etc)
 
  And the ISP is not the problem - I works for them in the network
 department
  (its on a 10 G link :D )
 
  I just made a make distclean and make again
 
  = vim-7.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/ports/distfiles/vim.
  = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/.
  fetch: transfer timed out
  = Attempting to fetch from
 http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/vim/unix/.
  vim-7.2.tar.bz2   100% of 7034 kB  254 kBps
  00m00s
 
  This takes 2-3 min And the 24-7 site only have to around 190  the
 last
  40 needs to wait for both primary and 24-7 to timeout before the 3rd site
  delivers

 I don't know which network department you work in at your ISP, but in
 this ISP's network department, we *never* disclaim the possibility of
 having an issue until the problem has been resolved, and we know
 *exactly* _what_ it was, and _where_ it was (yes, I'm a little sensitive
 to blind claims that it's not our fault ;)

  Looked a little deeper... It seems like I can
 
  wget http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 
  But i cannont
 
  fetch http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 
  wget goes smoothly but fetch times out

 Both work here:

 # fetch -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 7.2.002   100% of 1462  B 9327 kBps

 # wget -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 [...snip...]
 2009-07-24 21:52:01 (113 MB/s) - `7.2.002.1' saved [1462/1462]

 However, it seems as though ftp.vim.org is IPv6 enabled, but both fetch
 and wget time-out when trying to reach it over IPv6. eg:

 # wget -6 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

 --2009-07-24 22:02:13--  http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 Resolving ftp.vim.org... 2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42,
 2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:43
 Connecting to ftp.vim.org|2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
 ^C

 Are you IPv6 ready? If not, do you have v6 enabled in some fashion that
 could be interfering with proper Internet communication?

 Steve











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Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-25 Thread Mel Flynn
On Saturday 25 July 2009 02:29:30 Kalle Møller wrote:
 Spot on.. My server is ipv6 ready.. (We are the hosting department of the
 ISP if we should examine all ticket we get with.. Its the networks fault we
 wouldn't do anything else :D )

 And fetch -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002 is working
 fine. So it must be that it tries ipv6 first.

/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk states:
# FETCH_ARGS- Arguments to ftp/http fetch command.
# Default: -ApRr

Override it in /etc/make.conf:
FETCH_ARGS=-4ApRr

Or one could set it in your shell environment for the duration that IPv6 is 
not working.
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Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-24 Thread Bob Hall
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:13:43PM +0200, Kalle Mller wrote:
 When I try to install vim from ports it tries 4-5 sites which all have to
 time out... and with a 200 files.. thats a lot of timeouts.. Who should I
 poke to, so the mirrors would be updated ??
 
 -- 
 
 Med Venlig Hilsen

Hi Kalle,

If several servers are timing out, there's a good chance that the
problem is at your end. Either you or your ISP might be having a
problem. If you haven't changed anything (hardware, software,
configuration, ISP), then the problem is likely to be temporary.

If the problem is a spike in activity that's overburdoning the servers,
the following may help:
/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/fastest-sites

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Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-24 Thread Kalle Møller
Well any other port works flawless. It's only the vim ports (other = screen
sudo wget bash apache22 mysql-server subversion etc)

And the ISP is not the problem - I works for them in the network department
(its on a 10 G link :D )

I just made a make distclean and make again

= vim-7.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/ports/distfiles/vim.
= Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/.
fetch: transfer timed out
= Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/vim/unix/.
vim-7.2.tar.bz2   100% of 7034 kB  254 kBps
00m00s

This takes 2-3 min And the 24-7 site only have to around 190  the last
40 needs to wait for both primary and 24-7 to timeout before the 3rd site
delivers


Looked a little deeper... It seems like I can

wget http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

But i cannont

fetch http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

wget goes smoothly but fetch times out




On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Bob Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:13:43PM +0200, Kalle Mller wrote:
  When I try to install vim from ports it tries 4-5 sites which all have to
  time out... and with a 200 files.. thats a lot of timeouts.. Who should I
  poke to, so the mirrors would be updated ??
 
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  Med Venlig Hilsen

 Hi Kalle,

 If several servers are timing out, there's a good chance that the
 problem is at your end. Either you or your ISP might be having a
 problem. If you haven't changed anything (hardware, software,
 configuration, ISP), then the problem is likely to be temporary.

 If the problem is a spike in activity that's overburdoning the servers,
 the following may help:
 /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/fastest-sites

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Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
Kalle Møller wrote:
 Well any other port works flawless. It's only the vim ports (other = screen
 sudo wget bash apache22 mysql-server subversion etc)
 
 And the ISP is not the problem - I works for them in the network department
 (its on a 10 G link :D )
 
 I just made a make distclean and make again
 
 = vim-7.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/ports/distfiles/vim.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/.
 fetch: transfer timed out
 = Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/vim/unix/.
 vim-7.2.tar.bz2   100% of 7034 kB  254 kBps
 00m00s
 
 This takes 2-3 min And the 24-7 site only have to around 190  the last
 40 needs to wait for both primary and 24-7 to timeout before the 3rd site
 delivers

I don't know which network department you work in at your ISP, but in
this ISP's network department, we *never* disclaim the possibility of
having an issue until the problem has been resolved, and we know
*exactly* _what_ it was, and _where_ it was (yes, I'm a little sensitive
to blind claims that it's not our fault ;)

 Looked a little deeper... It seems like I can
 
 wget http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 
 But i cannont
 
 fetch http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 
 wget goes smoothly but fetch times out

Both work here:

# fetch -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
7.2.002   100% of 1462  B 9327 kBps

# wget -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
[...snip...]
2009-07-24 21:52:01 (113 MB/s) - `7.2.002.1' saved [1462/1462]

However, it seems as though ftp.vim.org is IPv6 enabled, but both fetch
and wget time-out when trying to reach it over IPv6. eg:

# wget -6 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

--2009-07-24 22:02:13--  http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
Resolving ftp.vim.org... 2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42,
2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:43
Connecting to ftp.vim.org|2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
^C

Are you IPv6 ready? If not, do you have v6 enabled in some fashion that
could be interfering with proper Internet communication?

Steve










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Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
Steve Bertrand wrote:
 Kalle Møller wrote:
 Well any other port works flawless. It's only the vim ports (other = screen
 sudo wget bash apache22 mysql-server subversion etc)

 And the ISP is not the problem - I works for them in the network department
 (its on a 10 G link :D )

 I just made a make distclean and make again

 = vim-7.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/ports/distfiles/vim.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/.
 fetch: transfer timed out
 = Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/vim/unix/.
 vim-7.2.tar.bz2   100% of 7034 kB  254 kBps
 00m00s

 This takes 2-3 min And the 24-7 site only have to around 190  the last
 40 needs to wait for both primary and 24-7 to timeout before the 3rd site
 delivers
 
 I don't know which network department you work in at your ISP, but in
 this ISP's network department, we *never* disclaim the possibility of
 having an issue until the problem has been resolved, and we know
 *exactly* _what_ it was, and _where_ it was (yes, I'm a little sensitive
 to blind claims that it's not our fault ;)
 
 Looked a little deeper... It seems like I can

 wget http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

 But i cannont

 fetch http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

 wget goes smoothly but fetch times out
 
 Both work here:
 
 # fetch -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 7.2.002   100% of 1462  B 9327 kBps
 
 # wget -4 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002
 [...snip...]
 2009-07-24 21:52:01 (113 MB/s) - `7.2.002.1' saved [1462/1462]
 
 However, it seems as though ftp.vim.org is IPv6 enabled, but both fetch
 and wget time-out when trying to reach it over IPv6.

To elaborate, the ftp.vim.org is reachable via IPv6:

# ping6 ftp.vim.org
PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:f118::b6 -- 2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42
16 bytes from 2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42, icmp_seq=0 hlim=55
time=113.550 ms
^C

So that means that the issue is likely due to the FTP application's
interaction with v6 at the network layer that is the issue.

I've found this to be common, and very acceptable as IPv6 adoption moves
forward.

I'd suspect that your machine is trying v6 first, and failing after a
timeout.

Steve



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Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??

2009-07-24 Thread Mel Flynn
On Friday 24 July 2009 17:37:37 Kalle Møller wrote:
 Well any other port works flawless. It's only the vim ports (other = screen
 sudo wget bash apache22 mysql-server subversion etc)

 And the ISP is not the problem - I works for them in the network department
 (its on a 10 G link :D )

 I just made a make distclean and make again

 = vim-7.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/ports/distfiles/vim.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/.
 fetch: transfer timed out
 = Attempting to fetch from
 http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/vim/unix/. vim-7.2.tar.bz2   
100% of 7034 kB  254 kBps 00m00s

 This takes 2-3 min And the 24-7 site only have to around 190  the last
 40 needs to wait for both primary and 24-7 to timeout before the 3rd site
 delivers


 Looked a little deeper... It seems like I can

 wget http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

 But i cannont

 fetch http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.002

 wget goes smoothly but fetch times out

Check your environment for the HTTP_PROXY value, aside from IPv6 like Steve 
said.
Additionally, you can sort various master sites to your preferences:
- /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk lists various master sites for ports that have 
many.
- In there we see:
  .if !defined(IGNORE_MASTER_SITE_VIM)
MASTER_SITE_VIM+= \
http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/ \
http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/vim/unix/ \
  ... etc ..
- So we can put in /etc/make.conf:
IGNORE_MASTER_SITE_VIM=yes
MASTER_SITE_VIM=list_of_sites_that_work_best

I regularly change this master sites based on geographical location.
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