Re: what is operator group for?

2007-01-03 Thread Rico Secada
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:30:49 +
Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Chris

You could run a: find / -type f -group operator 
to see all files where operator is the group.

Forgive me if I am wrong but I actually think this is the best way to find out.

 Hi all
 
 can anyone tell me what the operator group is for, or docs where I can
 read about it? I see that /sbin/shutdown and /sbin/mk_snap_ffs are both 
 executable by members and various things in /dev/ are mountable by them.
 
 I want a regular user to be able to mount removeable media and shutdown 
 the computer. If I make them a member of operator group what else am I
 allowing them to do?
 
 Thanks
 
 Chris
 
 
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Re: what is operator group for?

2007-01-02 Thread Chris Whitehouse

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

can anyone tell me what the operator group is for, or docs where I can
read about it? I see that /sbin/shutdown and /sbin/mk_snap_ffs are 
both executable by members and various things in /dev/ are mountable

by them.



My understanding is that group operator is intended for those who
deal with devices, e.g. running backups and monitoring printers.


(snip)


The answer above is correct.  I found the operator group described
in Essential System Administration by AEleen Frisch which is
published by O'Reilly  Associates, Inc.

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Thanks for the pointer, excellent book, I believe I have a copy 
somewhere, I will have read.


Chris

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Re: what is operator group for?

2007-01-01 Thread Chris Whitehouse

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I want a regular user to be able to mount removeable media and shutdown 
the computer. If I make them a member of operator group what else am I

allowing them to do?


With the usual permission settings, you are also allowing them to read
disks directly (e.g. with dump(8)), and thus to read any file on the
system -- including the system's and other users' private key files.


Good point, thanks



One alternative is sudo.


There are some notes somewhere about setting up a group and setting 
permissions in devfs.conf and devfs.rules which I have been using. I 
thought maybe using operator would be more convenient. Doing my own 
setup is fiddly but I know what they are allowed. And sudo for shutting 
down works fine.


Thanks for the reply.

Chris



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Re: what is operator group for?

2007-01-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 can anyone tell me what the operator group is for, or docs where I can
 read about it? I see that /sbin/shutdown and /sbin/mk_snap_ffs are 
 both executable by members and various things in /dev/ are mountable
 by them.

 My understanding is that group operator is intended for those who
 deal with devices, e.g. running backups and monitoring printers.

(snip)


The answer above is correct.  I found the operator group described
in Essential System Administration by AEleen Frisch which is
published by O'Reilly  Associates, Inc.

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Re: what is operator group for?

2006-12-31 Thread perryh
 can anyone tell me what the operator group is for, or docs where I can
 read about it? I see that /sbin/shutdown and /sbin/mk_snap_ffs are both 
 executable by members and various things in /dev/ are mountable by them.

My understanding is that group operator is intended for those who
deal with devices, e.g. running backups and monitoring printers.

 I want a regular user to be able to mount removeable media and shutdown 
 the computer. If I make them a member of operator group what else am I
 allowing them to do?

With the usual permission settings, you are also allowing them to read
disks directly (e.g. with dump(8)), and thus to read any file on the
system -- including the system's and other users' private key files.

One alternative is sudo.
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