Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:57:51 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr articulated: You can always install bash with pkg_add. The default package is not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 06 2010 22:00, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:06:28AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote: I cannot say about the tcsh features. That's kind of a shame, since tcsh is what I prefer these days, having long since given up on bash (pretty much

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 08:26:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say). Maybe I should

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 09:31:05AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I'd also like to publicly thank you on this list for encouraging me to try FreeBSD. I absolutely love it. I consider it a service to mankind to encourage more people using better, and better-licensed, software. You're welcome, and

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:35:09 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) It isn't humanly

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr articulated: You can always install bash with pkg_add. The default package is not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash binary from its port: # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash # make

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? man zsh to

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 06 2010 12:21, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread parv
in message 20100606182148.gb28...@guilt.hydra, wrote Chad Perrin thusly... ... On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're arguably more sane --

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:06:28AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote: I cannot say about the tcsh features. That's kind of a shame, since tcsh is what I prefer these days, having long since given up on bash (pretty much immediately after I started using FreeBSD as my primary OS instead of bash, and

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-05 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 05 2010 22:35, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) thanks in advance

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) Too broad a topic I suspect

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-05 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 05 Jun 2010 at 16:24:36 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences