Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 04:04:38PM -0700, Tim Judd wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Omer Faruk Sen omerf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Can I use zfs on / using FreeBSD 7.1?  I also use
  http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/http://people.freebsd.org/%7Erse/mirror/script
   to create mirror is
  there such a a tool for ZFS to use on Fbsd 7.1?
 
  Regards.
 
 
 Are you sure you want to do this?
 ZFS is still marked an experimental feature last time I checked; and if
 FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
 disk.  

That doesn't make sense.   Just because they might terminate upgrade
support for it in some future version doesn't mean the disk will
suddenly become unreadable.Just as in any upgrade that involves
a change from one file system to another, you may have to dump the
stuff on the old one and read it in to the new one if you do the
upgrade.   But the old one will not magically stop working.  You will
be able to recover your data from the old system.   

 I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
 gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.

Although ZFS is probably more mature than you are making it sound here,
it is true that gmirror is becoming very reliable and servicable.

So, either will probably work.   Your choice depends on what you want
to accomplish.

jerry
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-03 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Although ZFS is probably more mature than you are making it sound here,
it is true that gmirror is becoming very reliable and servicable.


ever used gmirror?
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Omer Faruk Sen omerf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Can I use zfs on / using FreeBSD 7.1?  I also use
 http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/http://people.freebsd.org/%7Erse/mirror/script
  to create mirror is
 there such a a tool for ZFS to use on Fbsd 7.1?

 Regards.


Are you sure you want to do this?
ZFS is still marked an experimental feature last time I checked; and if
FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
disk.  I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Daniel Lannstrom
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 04:18:28PM +0200, Omer Faruk Sen wrote:
 Can I use zfs on / using FreeBSD 7.1? 
Yes. But you need a /boot partition so the bootloader can find the
kernel. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot and
http://www.ish.com.au/solutions/articles/freebsdzfs 
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
disk.  I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.

IMHO hardware RAID beats nothing. it's mostly crap.

gmirror/gstripe/gconcat works well and always
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
 disk.  I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
 gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.

 IMHO hardware RAID beats nothing. it's mostly crap.

 gmirror/gstripe/gconcat works well and always


Yes, each person will have their own unique view.  To dismiss or put down
someone else's view seems unrational

There are times I prefer software raid, there are times I prefer hardware
raid, neither of which will solve 100% of the problems 100% of the time.


My point still stands that **IF** FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support,
you'll be SOL.




And quote the source PROPERLY next time.  The 2 letter word you DID NOT
quote me on makes a difference in the point I was making.

If you want to exchange flames, remove the -questions email list from the
recipients.
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