Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:makeinstallworld error))

2004-08-25 Thread Charles Ulrich
epilogue said: Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build packages? Yes. Well, now I've received one explicit yes answer and one explicit no answer to this question, leading me to believe that there might not be a clear consensus even among experienced FreeBSD

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-25 Thread Charles Ulrich
Lowell Gilbert said: If you think you see specific places to improve the documentation, please write it up and submit it in a Problem Report. FreeBSD is, after all, a volunteer project...;2~ That would probably be a better use of my time than grousing about it on a mailing list, so I think I

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:makeinstallworld error))

2004-08-25 Thread mailist
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 09:28 am, Charles Ulrich wrote: epilogue said: Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build packages? Yes. Well, now I've received one explicit yes answer and one explicit no answer to this question, leading me to believe that there

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Charles Ulrich
Lowell Gilbert said: In FreeBSD, a port is a third-party application ported to be built from source on your system. A package is a pre-compiled binary of that port. Once installed, they are both tracked (and removable) by the same database, usually referred to as the package database. See the

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Jay O'Brien
Charles Ulrich wrote: The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. Charles, Thank you for concisely answering a burning question I didn't know how to

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread epilogue
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Charles Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lowell Gilbert said: In FreeBSD, a port is a third-party application ported to be built from source on your system. A package is a pre-compiled binary of that port. Once installed, they are both tracked (and

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Charles Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build packages? No, packages are indeed built from ports. That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install', is it treated the same as any package that was

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:13:31PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote: Charles Ulrich wrote: The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. Thank you for

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

2004-08-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That phrase -- ports build packages is just so right on so many levels. Except for the literal description of what actually happens. It seems that a lot of the supposed confusion of novices comes from the fact that we don't have a separate word to

Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re: make installworld error))

2004-08-23 Thread Curtis Vaughan
Thanks to everyone who has been answering my questions over the past several days (weeks) concerning installing and upgrading FreeBSD. I am now going to try again. I am installing v. 4.8 on a server. This server is to be a Postfix w/Courier IMAP server integrated into a Linux-based network,

Reinstalling, then upgrading

2004-08-23 Thread Robert Huff
Curtis Vaughan writes: Finally, while I'm reinstalling 4.8, I would like to know something about the following. It seems to me that cvsup is actually downloading the entire repository of packages for FreeBSD. Is that really what one has to do to perform an upgrade? Cvsup

Reinstalling, then upgrading

2004-08-23 Thread Robert Huff
Curtis Vaughan writes: Finally, while I'm reinstalling 4.8, I would like to know something about the following. It seems to me that cvsup is actually downloading the entire repository of packages for FreeBSD. Is that really what one has to do to perform an upgrade? Cvsup

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading

2004-08-23 Thread Curtis Vaughan
On 23 Aug, 2004, at 13:16, Robert Huff wrote: Curtis Vaughan writes: Finally, while I'm reinstalling 4.8, I would like to know something about the following. It seems to me that cvsup is actually downloading the entire repository of packages for FreeBSD. Is that really what one has to do to

Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re: make installworld error))

2004-08-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am now going to try again. I am installing v. 4.8 on a server. This server is to be a Postfix w/Courier IMAP server integrated into a Linux-based network, authentication centralized using PAM LDAP. That's about it. Now, some people might say,

lost man pages after reinstalling and upgrading macosX

2003-12-12 Thread John Minter
Since I have reinstalled macosx (v 10.2) and upgraded to current v 10.2.8, i no longer can reach my man pages or many of my commands. on startup of terminal i get message saying system cannot find manpath or grep. I have tried to track down the problem, but can't seem to get the system to

Re: lost man pages after reinstalling and upgrading macosX

2003-12-12 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
John Minter wrote: Since I have reinstalled macosx (v 10.2) and upgraded to current v 10.2.8, i no longer can reach my man pages or many of my commands. on startup of terminal i get message saying system cannot find manpath or grep. I have tried to track down the problem, but can't seem to get

Re: lost man pages after reinstalling and upgrading macosX

2003-12-12 Thread Doug Hardie
On Dec 12, 2003, at 06:35, John Minter wrote: Since I have reinstalled macosx (v 10.2) and upgraded to current v 10.2.8, i no longer can reach my man pages or many of my commands. on startup of terminal i get message saying system cannot find manpath or grep. I have tried to track down the