Re: SMP detection

2006-09-01 Thread Scott Bennett
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:05:05 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Skylar Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance

Re: shared cache -- Re: SMP detection

2006-09-01 Thread Scott Bennett
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:12 PM, backyard wrote: with HT disabling in FreeBSD is more for the security issues about a potential exploit whereby one

Re: SMP detection

2006-09-01 Thread backyard
--- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/8/31, Skylar Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michal Mertl wrote: No! Kernel threads (e.g. handling interrupts) aren't that much different to normal processes. Logical CPUs on a single HTT capable CPU share most of the CPU logic,

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread Jordi Carrillo
2006/8/31, Skylar Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michal Mertl wrote: No! Kernel threads (e.g. handling interrupts) aren't that much different to normal processes. Logical CPUs on a single HTT capable CPU share most of the CPU logic, especially all the external stuff (handling interrupts).

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread Michal Mertl
Skylar Thompson wrote: Michal Mertl wrote: No! Kernel threads (e.g. handling interrupts) aren't that much different to normal processes. Logical CPUs on a single HTT capable CPU share most of the CPU logic, especially all the external stuff (handling interrupts). Scheduling handling

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread backyard
--- Skylar Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread backyard
--- Michal Mertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skylar Thompson wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before

Re: shared cache -- Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread backyard
--- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:12 PM, backyard wrote: with HT disabling in FreeBSD is more for the security issues about a potential exploit whereby one process in one pipe can access the priveledged information of a process in

Re: shared cache -- Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread Josh Carroll
Core 2 Duos have the EM64T extensions. Core Duos (Yonah) are a mobile chip only, not a full line of processors like the Core 2 architecture (Merom, Conroe, Woodcrest). I suspect the Core 2 chips do not suffer from the same security implications as HT-enabled processors. I'm not certain, but I

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread Michal Mertl
backyard píše v čt 31. 08. 2006 v 07:45 -0700: --- Michal Mertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skylar Thompson wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread Jordi Carrillo
2006/8/31, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Michal Mertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skylar Thompson wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-31 Thread backyard
--- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/8/31, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Michal Mertl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skylar Thompson wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Jordi Carrillo
I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with hyperthreading technology. I have the SMP-GENERIC kernel and it only launches one cpu. So, I've decided to disable SMP from BIOS. Is that ok?, knowing that I have a

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Skylar Thompson
Jordi Carrillo wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with hyperthreading technology. I have the SMP-GENERIC kernel and it only launches one cpu. So, I've decided to disable SMP from BIOS. Is that

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Simon Phoenix
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 20:20, Jordi Carrillo wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with hyperthreading technology. I have the SMP-GENERIC kernel and it only launches one cpu. So, I've decided

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread backyard
--- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with hyperthreading technology. I have the SMP-GENERIC kernel and it only launches one cpu. So, I've decided to

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Jordi Carrillo
2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with hyperthreading technology. I have the SMP-GENERIC kernel and it only

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Skylar Thompson
Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with hyperthreading technology. I have the

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Jordi Carrillo
Skylar, So, 50% is used for processes and the other 50% to handle hardware interrupts. Is that right? 2006/8/30, Skylar Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be

shared cache -- Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:12 PM, backyard wrote: with HT disabling in FreeBSD is more for the security issues about a potential exploit whereby one process in one pipe can access the priveledged information of a process in another pipe because the two cores share one processor cache and thus one

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Skylar Thompson
Jordi Carrillo wrote: Skylar, So, 50% is used for processes and the other 50% to handle hardware interrupts. Is that right? I believe so, but the blurb that I read that in is from 2003. There's a good chance someone will jump in to correct me. :) It was in /usr/src/UPDATING: 20031022:

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread backyard
--- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with

Fwd: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Jordi Carrillo
2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Michal Mertl
Skylar Thompson wrote: Jordi Carrillo wrote: 2006/8/30, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Jordi Carrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that SMP should be disabled for performance issues (I did not know that before installing freebsd). I have a P4 3GHz with

Re: SMP detection

2006-08-30 Thread Skylar Thompson
Michal Mertl wrote: No! Kernel threads (e.g. handling interrupts) aren't that much different to normal processes. Logical CPUs on a single HTT capable CPU share most of the CPU logic, especially all the external stuff (handling interrupts). Scheduling handling of interrupts on the