Re: warning: total configured swap (8960911 pages) exceeds maximum recommended amount (8243200 pages).

2013-10-17 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 17/10/2013 17:01, RW wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:27:49 +0100 Frank Leonhardt wrote: On 17/10/2013 15:04, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm using a 72gb swap disk. I've 10gb RAM I get this warning: warning: total configured swap (8960911 pages) exceeds maximum recommended amount (8243200

firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread O. Hartmann
After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not know whether this has to do with the great pixman update, because coincidentally I made bot the pixman update and the update of firefox towards revision 23 slipped

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 08:54:56AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not know whether this has to do with the great pixman update, because coincidentally

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread O. Hartmann
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:50:48 +0200 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 08:54:56AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 10:23:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: I have a 10-CURRENT r255948 from October 1st, with all ports from head too, rev. r328930. FF is version 24.0 in the r328930 ports and the tabs can be moved fine with drag and drop. HIH matthias

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, O. Hartmann wrote: FF is in my case 24, too: pkg info firefox firefox-24.0,1 Have you done updating the ports regarding 20130929 in /usr/ports/UPDATING? I did on all boxes and on all boxes I did the tab-stickyness is present. Firefox 24 allows tab moves for me on both

net-snmp - Crazy figures for swap interrupts?

2013-07-23 Thread Karl Pielorz
Hi, We've got a number of 9.x machines - just setup a new 9.1-RELEASE-p4 amd64 system, put net-snmp on it (net-snmp-5.7.2_3) - and we're getting 'weird' results for some stats, e.g. UCD-SNMP-MIB::ssSysInterrupts.0 = INTEGER: 1145324516 interrupts/s UCD-SNMP-MIB::ssSwapIn.0 = INTEGER:

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-30 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 19:52:02 + (UTC) jb wrote: RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: BTW you mean paging, or swap use, rather that swapping. Linux supports only paging, so it can be taken as read that swapping means paging, but FreeBSD supports both. Yes, there is some

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-30 Thread jb
with paging. But its history is as follows (per Wikipedia): This is a bit Linux-centric. ... You page-out pages and swap-out processes. When FreeBSD is very short of memory it swaps-out entire processes to concentrate the memory in the running processes. Linux goes directly from

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-30 Thread jb
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:36:42 + (UTC) jb wrote: But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. No, there are thing that are better on disk than in memory. The most common example is

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-30 Thread RW
On Sun, 26 May 2013 18:48:18 -0500 Adam Vande More wrote: Um, that is wrong. It is in fact the basically the point of TRIM. And SSD's typically use the best form of wear leveling and it's usually advisable to leave a bit of the drive unpartitioned/unused to ensure the wear leveling works

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread jb
overhead cost in small problem sizes relative to cache. http://erikdemaine.org/papers/BRICS2002/paper.pdf In light of available but not implemented better VMM algos, perhaps *BSD and Linux could eliminate or reduce the need for: - swap space - swapping out RAM even if there is no lack

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Fred Morcos
and cache-dependent. Still, I will check the paper out :) thanks. In light of available but not implemented better VMM algos, perhaps *BSD and Linux could eliminate or reduce the need for: - swap space I run Archlinux without any swap space on a workstation laptop without problems. I occasionally

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread RW
sent to disk rather tying up physical memory indefinitely. BTW you mean paging, or swap use, rather that swapping. Linux supports only paging, so it can be taken as read that swapping means paging, but FreeBSD supports both. ___ freebsd-questions

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:57:22 +0200 Fred Morcos wrote: Linux has a sysctl variable vm.swappiness which you can set to 0 or 1 out of 100. Not sure how to achieve the same on FreeBSD, maybe one or more combinations of the following? You'll probably make things worse. vm.stats.vm.v_swappgsout:

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:19 AM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: - overcommitment of memory (a bluff asking to be punished by OOM killer) No self respecting Unix has an OOM by default. - OOM killer Are you suggesting FreeBSD does this crap? Besides, they allow sloppy/dangerous programming.

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Normal dynamic wear leveling on a modern SSD will be better than imposing an FS- backed swap for 4GB partion occupying a small fraction of total drive space. Quite so. - M

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 29 May 2013, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: Normal dynamic wear leveling on a modern SSD will be better than imposing an FS- backed swap for 4GB partion occupying a small fraction of total drive space. And you

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
of benefits. TRIM-less swap in this case doesn't. The PE rate of the worst MLC SSD's at this point is @3000 AFAIK. Given those figures and average desktop swap rate at my estimation, prioritizing write endurance on an SSD is not beneficial(especially with a SanForce). If you are swapping continuously

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
blocks are no longer in use--is worthwhile? As a whole, TRIM is worthwhile. However when an SSD is overprovisioned it provides a lot of benefits. TRIM-less swap in this case doesn't. The PE rate of the worst MLC SSD's at this point is @3000 AFAIK. Given those figures and average desktop swap

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread jb
is tmpfs. It's much better that files left on tmpfs can sent to disk rather tying up physical memory indefinitely. BTW you mean paging, or swap use, rather that swapping. Linux supports only paging, so it can be taken as read that swapping means paging, but FreeBSD supports both. Yes

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Linux utilizes swap space as part of virtual memory. As does every other Unix. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Kraus
is synonymous with paging. You say that FB supports both, Linux supports paging only. Well, Linux utilizes swap space as part of virtual memory. So, can you elaborate more on that - what is the essence of the diff, why should I avoid the term swapping when referring to Linux, assuming VMM systems

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-28 Thread jb
Follow up comment. It has been pointed out to me that there is Varnish software taking advantage of system VMM and swap space. Well, there are cache-oblivious algorithms that perform as well, and so they make the above (disk access model; cache-aware model) unnecessary (obsolete

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-28 Thread Fred Morcos
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:42 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Follow up comment. It has been pointed out to me that there is Varnish software taking advantage of system VMM and swap space. Well, there are cache-oblivious algorithms that perform as well, and so they make the above

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-28 Thread Terje Elde
On 26. mai 2013, at 10:58, M. V. bored_to_deat...@yahoo.com wrote: But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my server, and having swap partition could make my server unstable Any chance this could be a simple misunderstanding? That he objected

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-27 Thread M. V.
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: M. V. bored_to_death85 at yahoo.com writes: recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my server, and having swap partition could make my server unstable. I think your FB expert was up to something. I bet he spoke

swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread M. V.
hi everyone, I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my server, and having swap partition could

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:58:32 -0700 (PDT) M. V. bored_to_deat...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 May 2013 16:09:06 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:58:32 -0700 (PDT) M. V. bored_to_deat...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Eduardo Morras
On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:58:32 -0700 (PDT) M. V. bored_to_deat...@yahoo.com wrote: hi everyone, I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Erich Dollansky
on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my server, and having swap partition could make my server unstable. this was so strange for me, and I searched

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 26/05/2013 09:58, M. V. wrote: hi everyone, I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread jb
M. V. bored_to_death85 at yahoo.com writes: hi everyone, I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Sierchio
The Intel SLC mSATA drives I use in embedded devices don't support TRIM, but - it doesn't seem to matter. Actually, I'm confident that just using bare partitions for swap is fine, and I haven't had any of the trouble I witnessed with MLC devices. The difference is that the size is limited

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Warren Block
, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my server, and having swap partition could make my server unstable. this was so strange for me, and I searched a lot but couldn't find a reason for this claim. because

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Another problem with SSDs is that they can have difficulty with wear leveling. This is even worse with swap because there is no way to use TRIM to tell the SSD about blocks that have been freed. Um, that is wrong

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 26 May 2013, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Another problem with SSDs is that they can have difficulty with wear leveling. This is even worse with swap because there is no way to use TRIM to tell the SSD about blocks

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-26 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Which part? This part: Another problem with SSDs is that they can have difficulty with wear leveling. Do as I suggested and you'll get maximum life from the drive even with swap present. Even absent of best practices

how to forbid a process to use swap?

2013-03-09 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I run a program that uses large arrays. I don't want it to use swap, because it's too slow. I want the program to fail when there's not enough RAM, rather than using swap. How to do this? Is it something to do with these kernel variables: kern.dfldsiz: 34359738368 kern.dflssiz: 8388608

Re: how to forbid a process to use swap?

2013-03-09 Thread Ben Cottrell
On Mar 9, 2013, at 15:55, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: I run a program that uses large arrays. I don't want it to use swap, because it's too slow. I want the program to fail when there's not enough RAM, rather than using swap. How to do this? If it were me I would start

Re: how to forbid a process to use swap?

2013-03-09 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.ukwrote: I run a program that uses large arrays. I don't want it to use swap, because it's too slow. I want the program to fail when there's not enough RAM, rather than using swap. How to do this? Is it something to do

Re: how to forbid a process to use swap?

2013-03-09 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com Sun Mar 10 00:25:27 2013 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.ukwrote: I run a program that uses large arrays. I don't want it to use swap, because it's too slow. I want the program to fail

Re: how to forbid a process to use swap?

2013-03-09 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
want it to use swap, because it's too slow. I want the program to fail when there's not enough RAM, rather than using swap. How to do this? Is it something to do with these kernel variables: kern.dfldsiz: 34359738368

Re: GELI Swap password on boot

2012-11-08 Thread Fabian Keil
with GELI. Every time I boot up my computer, I get a request to enter the Encryption password for swap. swap is not encrypted and should not be asking for an encryption password. I have checked and ensured that there are no providers for geli for the ada0p3 partition. Any one have

Re: GELI Swap password on boot

2012-11-08 Thread Mike Barnard
. Just for the purpose of explaining, when I did this gpart add -a 4k -s 4G -t freebsd-swap -l SWAP ada0 it created swap as ada0p3, ada0p1 having been labeled as boot-loader , ada0p2 having been labeled as boot and ada0p4 as root. this failed on all attempts. But when I changed the ordering

Re: GELI Swap password on boot

2012-11-07 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE and I am experiencing some strange behaviour with GELI. Every time I boot up my computer, I get a request to enter the Encryption password for swap. swap is not encrypted

Re: GELI Swap password on boot

2012-11-07 Thread Mike Barnard
a request to enter the Encryption password for swap. swap is not encrypted and should not be asking for an encryption password. I have checked and ensured that there are no providers for geli for the ada0p3 partition. Any one have pointers on what I could check for to rectify this. in /etc

Replacing mirrored swap

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Hi, I'm using a ZFS mirror, and had a disc fail. I had a spare unused disc in the case, and just switched over to that, after partitioning it with gpart. ZFS is great, just have to say that. But I'm not sure about the correct way to bring the new swap partition online. Do I use gmirror label

Re: Replacing mirrored swap

2012-09-20 Thread Adam Vande More
the correct way to bring the new swap partition online. Do I use gmirror label, as I did when I created it? Or gmirror insert? Or something else. I'm using the round-robin balancing algorithm, if that matters. Thanks in advance for your help. Scott The handbook or man page on gmirror cover

Re: encrypted ZFS root and encrypted swap OOTB?

2012-07-11 Thread Joseph Lenox
On 07/09/2012 06:55 PM, David Christensen wrote: I wrote: https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/05/06/full-disk-encryption-with-zfs-root-for-freebsd-9-x/ On 07/09/2012 09:43 AM, Colin Barnabas wrote: Perhaps this will help- http://www.aisecure.net/2011/11/28/root-zfs-freebsd9/ Thanks for the

Re: encrypted ZFS root and encrypted swap OOTB?

2012-07-11 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 11/07/2012 16:25, Joseph Lenox wrote: On 07/09/2012 06:55 PM, David Christensen wrote: I wrote: https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/05/06/full-disk-encryption-with-zfs-root-for-freebsd-9-x/ On 07/09/2012 09:43 AM, Colin Barnabas wrote: Perhaps this will help-

encrypted ZFS root and encrypted swap OOTB?

2012-07-09 Thread David Christensen
freebsd-questions: It is possible to install FreeBSD with an encrypted ZFS root and encrypted swap using FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1? I'm looking for something similar to the Debian installer, which provides disk partitioning, file system creation, mounts, LUKS, LVM, etc.. TIA, David

Re: encrypted ZFS root and encrypted swap OOTB?

2012-07-09 Thread Colin Barnabas
Perhaps this will help- http://www.aisecure.net/2011/11/28/root-zfs-freebsd9/ On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 07:13:05AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: freebsd-questions: It is possible to install FreeBSD with an encrypted ZFS root and encrypted swap using FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1? I'm

Freebsd without swap

2012-06-15 Thread mbsd
Hi there. Now I'm using FreeBSD 9 without swap, and without additional swap - related configurations. Ξ ~ → gpart show = 34 234441581 ada0 GPT (111G) 34128 1 freebsd-boot (64k) 162 234441453 2 freebsd-zfs (111G) Ξ ~ → pstat -T 3857/12328 files 0M

Re: Freebsd without swap

2012-06-15 Thread RW
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:22:37 +0300 mbsd wrote: Hi there. Now I'm using FreeBSD 9 without swap, and without additional swap - related configurations. .. And the question is: Does it correct to use freebsd like this? Or I need specific setup? Option NO_SWAPPING if I understand right

Re: Freebsd without swap

2012-06-15 Thread RW
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:48:13 +0100 RW wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:22:37 +0300 mbsd wrote: Hi there. Now I'm using FreeBSD 9 without swap, and without additional swap - related configurations. .. And the question is: Does it correct to use freebsd like this? Or I need specific

Re: Swap files and panics

2012-05-30 Thread Derek Ragona
At 10:54 AM 5/29/2012, Warren Block wrote: Recently I rearranged partitions on an SSD. The swap partition was eliminated in favor of a swap file on /usr. This works, allows TRIM support on the swap space, and is easier to resize than a partition. However, sometimes the system panics

Swap files and panics

2012-05-29 Thread Warren Block
Recently I rearranged partitions on an SSD. The swap partition was eliminated in favor of a swap file on /usr. This works, allows TRIM support on the swap space, and is easier to resize than a partition. However, sometimes the system panics on shutdown. It happens after syncing disks, so

Re: freebsd 9.0-release + zfs + mysqld(percona) = kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone

2012-04-01 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 3/30/12 5:48 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: After reading several sparse articles/post, I've come to the conclusion that FreeBSD doesn't do well with SWAP 32GB; however it does allow it. As such I decided to drop the swap to 8GB*2=16GB. Sadly that didn't help either after dropping

Re: freebsd 9.0-release + zfs + mysqld(percona) = kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone

2012-03-30 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 03/28/12 03:09, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: It works out to roughly 7.7GB from 32MB okay fine. If I double it, that should give me 15.4GB from 64MB (still not enough). If I 16x it that should give me 246GB from 512MB. Thats more my physical ram + swap. Oh well. After reading several

Re: freebsd 9.0-release + zfs + mysqld(percona) = kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone

2012-03-27 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
it, that should give me 15.4GB from 64MB (still not enough). If I 16x it that should give me 246GB from 512MB. Thats more my physical ram + swap. Oh well. I've seen John Baldwin write on lists o) you have another problem if the default isn't enough o) when it panics I pick up the crash dump swap

freebsd 9.0-release + zfs + mysqld(percona) = kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone

2012-03-26 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
/var/log/messages Mar 23 22:21:50 sabertooth kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone Mar 23 22:21:50 sabertooth kernel: pid 86697 (mysqld), uid 88, was killed: out of swap space how to repeat: $ mysql -ux file.sql (~150GB) worth basically, it slows down continually until it dies

Re: freebsd 9.0-release + zfs + mysqld(percona) = kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone

2012-03-26 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone Mar 23 22:21:50 sabertooth kernel: pid 86697 (mysqld), uid 88, was killed: out of swap space how to repeat: $ mysql -ux file.sql (~150GB) worth basically, it slows down continually until it dies. IF you (suspend) the process in time

swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Jim Pazarena
is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df seems to avoid the swap area. This would be on a live production server. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 2/17/2012 6:54 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote: is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? % pstat -T 438/12328 files 98M/10240M swap space ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet

Re: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote: is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df seems to avoid the swap area. You're looking for swapinfo Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
On Feb 17, 2012 6:55 PM, Jim Pazarena fqu...@paz.bz wrote: is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df seems to avoid the swap area. This would be on a live production server. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Robison, Dave
On 02/17/2012 15:58, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote: is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df seems to avoid the swap area. You're looking for swapinfo Regards, Chuck beat me to it. swapinfo or top are the two ways I

RE: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robison, Dave Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:11 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space On 02/17/2012 15:58, Chuck Swiger wrote

Re: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 17:59:50 2012 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:54:18 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena fqu...@paz.bz To: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: swap space is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df

Re: Very large swap

2011-10-15 Thread perryh
Dennis Glatting free...@penx.com wrote: This is a proof-of-concept project ... I am doing it on the cheap ... I have committed to the project five machines. Three run over clocked Phenom II x6 processors with 16GB of RAM, 1TB disk for the OS, 1TB disk for Junk, and a 3-2TB disk RAIDz array

Re: Very large swap

2011-10-15 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 07:08 14/10/2011, Dennis Glatting wrote: This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be interesting to know. What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation messages

Re: Very large swap

2011-10-14 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 10/14/2011 8:08 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be interesting to know. What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation messages

Re: Very large swap

2011-10-14 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 10/14/2011 11:43 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: On 10/14/2011 8:08 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be interesting to know. What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? A single swap dev appears

Re: Very large swap

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 10/14/2011 11:43 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: On 10/14/2011 8:08 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be interesting to know. What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under

Very large swap

2011-10-13 Thread Dennis Glatting
This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be interesting to know. What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of 2

Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)

2011-09-15 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
Thanks Matthew / Michael for your responses on this. On 9/14/2011 2:51 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/09/2011 18:27, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: ... In these days of plentiful RAM, the new rule of thumb is

Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)

2011-09-14 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
Good morning all, Each operating system seems to have different documentation regarding what a decent swap size is for systems with large amounts of RAM. My system only has 8GB of RAM. Some people have gone with the general idea that 2X the amount of RAM is sufficient but for systems

Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)

2011-09-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/09/2011 13:34, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: Each operating system seems to have different documentation regarding what a decent swap size is for systems with large amounts of RAM. My system only has 8GB of RAM. Some people have gone with the general idea that 2X the amount of RAM

Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)

2011-09-14 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
Excellent response. Thank you so much. On Sep 14, 2011 9:56 AM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 14/09/2011 13:34, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: Each operating system seems to have different documentation regarding what a decent swap size is for systems with large amounts

Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)

2011-09-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/09/2011 18:27, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: ... In these days of plentiful RAM, the new rule of thumb is if you're swapping, then you're doing it wrong. I think your response follows the excellent

Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)

2011-09-14 Thread RW
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:55:53 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/09/2011 13:34, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: Either from the FreeBSD docs, or based on personal experiences, what is the recommended swap space for a 8GB system? Your opinions are greatly appreciated The old rule of thumb of swap

Re: kernel Panic not dumping to swap

2011-08-15 Thread Daryl Sayers
get my core dump in /var/cache when the machine reboots. Any ideas?? Daryl, A couple of questions: 1) How big is your swap partition? Is it large enough to hold the crash dump? 2) What type of hardware is this? I know that HP Proliants using the CISS raid control fail to produce

Re: kernel Panic not dumping to swap

2011-08-12 Thread Patrick Mahan
get my core dump in /var/cache when the machine reboots. Any ideas?? Daryl, A couple of questions: 1) How big is your swap partition? Is it large enough to hold the crash dump? 2) What type of hardware is this? I know that HP Proliants using the CISS raid control fail to produce

kernel Panic not dumping to swap

2011-08-10 Thread Daryl Sayers
I have a FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE (64bit) system with 4G mem installed. I have had a few kernel panics over the last few weeks and would like to capture a core dump. I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf dumpdev=AUTO dumpdir=/var/crash The /var/crash is a 5G filesystem (with 4.8G free). When the

swap_pager: out of swap space, swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed

2011-04-04 Thread Paul Chany
Hi, On FreeBSD RELEASE 8.2 I'm trying to install sudo with commands: # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/ # make install clean .. swap_pager: out of swap space swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed .. c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) .. .. *** Error code 1 What can I do to solve

Re: swap_pager: out of swap space, swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Paul Chany wrote: swap_pager: out of swap space swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed .. c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) .. .. *** Error code 1 What can I do to solve this problem Your system ran out of VM. Add more RAM, or add more swapspace

Re: swap_pager: out of swap space, swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed

2011-04-04 Thread Paul Chany
2011-04-04 21:01 keltezéssel, Chuck Swiger írta: On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Paul Chany wrote: swap_pager: out of swap space swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed .. c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) .. .. *** Error code 1 What can I do to solve this problem Your

Re: swap_pager: out of swap space, swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Paul Chany wrote: I follow the link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html I did create a swapfile, and run again command: '# make install clean'. Since thet it being running on my old Toshiba laptop that had 64 MB RAM

Kernel swap zone exhausted, what is the max allowed? FBSD 7.2

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Terribile
dumped) Feb 23 17:14:13 gold kernel: pid 10386 (epiphany), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Feb 23 17:18:19 gold kernel: pid 10414 (epiphany), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Feb 24 14:56:05 gold kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone Feb 24 14:56:36 gold last message

Re: Kernel swap zone exhausted, what is the max allowed? FBSD 7.2

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Vande More
kern.maxswzone kern.maxswzone: Maximum memory for swap metadata man 8 loader gives: kern.maxswzone Limits the amount of KVM to be used to hold swap meta information, which directly governs the maximum amount of swap the system can support

Re: Swap Space

2011-01-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
X RAM is a lot of disk space nowadays -- so either you'll need to find some other use for that space; eg. as a swap-backed /tmp partition, or else provide less swap. Also, there's a maximum of -- I think -- 8GB swap above which the performance of swap is degraded, due to algorithmic limits

Re: Swap Space

2011-01-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
have quantities of RAM measured in Megabytes rather than Gigabytes. Of course, in those days disk space was measured in MBytes too. Also, there's a maximum of -- I think -- 8GB swap above which the performance of swap is degraded, due to algorithmic limits

Swap Space

2011-01-05 Thread Jeff Whitman
I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON processors and 6GB RAM. What is the recommended swap space? I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others say stay with 2 x RAM. Thank you

Re: Swap Space

2011-01-05 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Jeff Whitman jwhit...@jwnetsource.comwrote: I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON processors and 6GB RAM. What is the recommended swap space? I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others

RE: Swap Space

2011-01-05 Thread Gary Gatten
I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON processors and 6GB RAM. What is the recommended swap space? I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others say stay with 2 x RAM. Definitely not 0, but 2x would probably be way too

Re: Swap Space

2011-01-05 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:48 -0600 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap file if necessary

RE: Swap Space

2011-01-05 Thread Gary Gatten
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap file if necessary? Swapping to a file is really slow and should only be done if absolutely

Re: Swap Space

2011-01-05 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap file if necessary

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