Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-27 Thread Darren Henderson

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:


I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually


This will put messages from the freebsd lists in folders by list name 
prepended with FBSD-


:0:
* ^Sender: owner-freebsd-\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@FreeBSD.ORG
{
   LISTNAME=${MATCH}
   :0
   * LISTNAME??^\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Mail/In/FBSD-${MATCH}
}


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-04-25 14:05, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

 Can gmail not filter on that?

 Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
 procmail?

Sure; you can use something like this in your `.procmailrc':

  :0 H
  List-Id: .*freebsd-\/[^\.]*
  freebsd-$MATCH

I haven't tested this with multiple mailing lists yet, but it's
something I've been experimenting with.

Other possibilities include:

  :0 H
  * ^Sender: owner-freebsd-\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  freebsd-$MATCH

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-26 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 15:44:20 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 
[...]
 I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
 list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
 or email of the original sender in the diplay.

It doesn't for me.  The only time I see the list name in place of the
message sender's email address is for my own posts, where it displays
the To: address instead of the From: address, which is what I prefer.

Perhaps you have something wrong with your setting of index_format?


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 08:03:19PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
 On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 15:44:20 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  
 [...]
  I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
  list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
  or email of the original sender in the diplay.
 
 It doesn't for me.  The only time I see the list name in place of the
 message sender's email address is for my own posts, where it displays
 the To: address instead of the From: address, which is what I prefer.
 
 Perhaps you have something wrong with your setting of index_format?

I think you must misunderstand something in what I said.  I'm talking
about ways to get visual cues for the list origins of emails.  The fact
that the subscribe setting in .muttrc allows the display to show the
list's address (the To: address) instead of the sender's address (the
From: address) is a means of achieving that.  That's not the best way,
in my opinion, to make the list association of an email clear, but it's
the way the subscribe setting does it.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-26 Thread N.J. Mann
On Thursday, 26 April, 2007 at 14:43:35 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 08:03:19PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
  On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 15:44:20 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
   
  [...]
   I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
   list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
   or email of the original sender in the diplay.
  
  It doesn't for me.  The only time I see the list name in place of the
  message sender's email address is for my own posts, where it displays
  the To: address instead of the From: address, which is what I prefer.
  
  Perhaps you have something wrong with your setting of index_format?
 
 I think you must misunderstand something in what I said.  I'm talking
 about ways to get visual cues for the list origins of emails.  The fact
 that the subscribe setting in .muttrc allows the display to show the
 list's address (the To: address) instead of the sender's address (the
 From: address) is a means of achieving that.  That's not the best way,
 in my opinion, to make the list association of an email clear, but it's
 the way the subscribe setting does it.

Okay, I think I understand. :-)

I think the misunderstanding was because I am using mutt very
differently from you.  I have each list I am subscribed to filtered into
its own mail box by procmail.  I have listed all of these mailing lists
in mutt's subscribed setting.  I also have status_on_top set and
pager_index_lines set to 10.  The up shot of all this is that I know
which mailing list I am reading because it is listed in the status line.

Separate mail boxes for each mailing list just makes more sense to me.
:-)


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 10:03:46PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
 
 Okay, I think I understand. :-)
 
 I think the misunderstanding was because I am using mutt very
 differently from you.  I have each list I am subscribed to filtered into
 its own mail box by procmail.  I have listed all of these mailing lists
 in mutt's subscribed setting.  I also have status_on_top set and
 pager_index_lines set to 10.  The up shot of all this is that I know
 which mailing list I am reading because it is listed in the status line.
 
 Separate mail boxes for each mailing list just makes more sense to me.
 :-)

Yeah, that makes a big difference.

For me, filtering into separate mailboxes would just ensure that I end
up ignoring some of my mailing lists for long periods of time.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

[mailed and posted]
On Apr 26, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:


On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 10:03:46PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:


Okay, I think I understand. :-)

I think the misunderstanding was because I am using mutt very
differently from you.  I have each list I am subscribed to  
filtered into
its own mail box by procmail.  I have listed all of these mailing  
lists

in mutt's subscribed setting.  I also have status_on_top set and
pager_index_lines set to 10.  The up shot of all this is that I know
which mailing list I am reading because it is listed in the status  
line.


Separate mail boxes for each mailing list just makes more sense to  
me.

:-)


Yeah, that makes a big difference.

For me, filtering into separate mailboxes would just ensure that I end
up ignoring some of my mailing lists for long periods of time.


I've been sorting all of my FreeBSD list stuff into a common mailbox  
(using a sieve script on the IMAP server I use) and since this, and  
have just started (as a result of this discussion) playing with color  
coding by which particular list.  The color coding is done in the MUA  
(Mail.app in my case).  In general, I automatic delivery into  
particular folders as the business of the IMAP server (not the  
client) while something like display properties for messages meeting  
particular criteria as something to do in the MUA.


-j

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Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Amarendra Godbole

Hi,

I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
classified?

Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!

-Amarendra
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Erik Norgaard

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Amarendra Godbole wrote:


Hi,

I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
classified?

Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!


For gmail you can create filters that add a label depending on the 
to-address. I don't know how it works.


I think that's what you want - and it is likely much easier than trying to 
take up the discussion...


Cheers, Erik
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Amarendra Godbole wrote:


I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
classified?

Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!


All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

Can gmail not filter on that?

Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution.  Either you tag at 
the front


  [fbsd-questions]  Really long subject line that gets truncated even 
earlier thanks to the tag


or at the end

 Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ... 
[fbsd-questions]


Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible 
email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary 
inconvenience.


Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags 
across mailing lists.  Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it 
can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique.


If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which 
contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Not as 
good, but it would do.


--Alex


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Andy Greenwood

On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Amarendra Godbole wrote:

 I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
 visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
 possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
 or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
 classified?

 Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
 discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
 inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!

All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

Can gmail not filter on that?


it's not documented, but you can filter like this

listid:freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

under the has the words section of the filter creation page.



Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution.  Either you tag at
the front

   [fbsd-questions]  Really long subject line that gets truncated even
earlier thanks to the tag

or at the end

  Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ...
[fbsd-questions]

Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible
email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary
inconvenience.

Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags
across mailing lists.  Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it
can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique.

If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which
contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Not as
good, but it would do.

--Alex


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Amarendra Godbole

On 4/25/07, Andy Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Amarendra Godbole wrote:

  I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
  visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
  possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
  or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
  classified?
 
  Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
  discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
  inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!

 All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

 e.g.

 List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

 Can gmail not filter on that?

it's not documented, but you can filter like this

listid:freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

under the has the words section of the filter creation page.

[...]

Thanks all for your suggestions and clarifications. I do agree that
visual tagging increases the length of the subject line a bit too much
to fit in one screen properly. I will setup gmail filters, as
suggested.

-Amarendra
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 Amarendra Godbole wrote:
 
 I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
 visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
 possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
 or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
 classified?
 
 Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
 discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
 inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!
 
 All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
 
 e.g.
 
 List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
 
 Can gmail not filter on that?

Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
procmail?

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:05:21 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
  Amarendra Godbole wrote:
  
  I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
  visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
  possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
  or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
  classified?
  
  Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
  discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
  inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!
  
  All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
  
  e.g.
  
  List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
  
  Can gmail not filter on that?
 
 Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
 procmail?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html

I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Jeff Mohler

I dont think subject tagging is poor at all.

whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ]
aint all that long.



On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Amarendra Godbole wrote:

 I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
 visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
 possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
 or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
 classified?

 Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
 discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
 inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!

All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

Can gmail not filter on that?

Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution.  Either you tag at
the front

   [fbsd-questions]  Really long subject line that gets truncated even
earlier thanks to the tag

or at the end

  Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ...
[fbsd-questions]

Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible
email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary
inconvenience.

Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags
across mailing lists.  Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it
can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique.

If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which
contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Not as
good, but it would do.

--Alex


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:47:30 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html
 
 I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.

Sorry, but that is what I thought you were after.

 I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
 not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
 procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
 line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.

Now I am totally confused.  What exactly do you want?

(If you want to add or remove something from the subject line during
local mail delivery use formail.)


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:05PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
 On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:47:30 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
   
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html
  
  I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
 
 Sorry, but that is what I thought you were after.
 
  I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
  not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
  procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
  line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.
 
 Now I am totally confused.  What exactly do you want?
 
 (If you want to add or remove something from the subject line during
 local mail delivery use formail.)

I'm looking for an easy way to visually mark messages as being from the
freebsd-questions list so I can recognize them at a glance without
screwing with the subject line if I reply.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org


Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
procmail?


procmail can filter out duplicates and sort messages into folders 
(directories under ~/mail):


PATH=$HOME/procmail:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
# DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail

# Weed out duplicate messages.
:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| /usr/local/bin/formail -D 8192 $HOME/.msgid.cache

# FreeBSD Questions Mailing list
:0
* ^List-Id:.*freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
$MAILDIR/FreeBSD-Questions

This puts questions messages in a folder called FreeBSD-Questions 
(which you should probably create beforehand).  You'll also need a 
.forward file or FEATURE(local_procmail) in your sendmail .mc file to 
use procmail.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 15:14:59 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:05PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
  On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:47:30 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
   On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html
   
   I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
  
  Sorry, but that is what I thought you were after.
  
   I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
   not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
   procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
   line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.
  
  Now I am totally confused.  What exactly do you want?
  
  (If you want to add or remove something from the subject line during
  local mail delivery use formail.)
 
 I'm looking for an easy way to visually mark messages as being from the
 freebsd-questions list so I can recognize them at a glance without
 screwing with the subject line if I reply.

Right.  In an earlier message you mentioned mutt and procmail, so here
is a procmail/mutt solution.  First off write a procmail recipe that
matches the mail list(s) you wish to flag.  In the action line of said
recipe use formail to add the header X-Status.  Configure mutt to high
light message which contain the X-Status header.

If you want me to give you a step-by-step it will have to wait until
tomorrow because it is time for me to hit the sack.  If you can't wait
that long look in the archives for the procmail users' mailing about 6
or so years ago - may be even longer: flagging is what this is called.

Oh, just remembered, the above assumes you are using mbox format.  If
you are using maildir there is a solution, but the action is different.


Cheers,
   Nick.
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:37:41PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 
 All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
 
 e.g.
 
 List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
 
 Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
 procmail?
 
 procmail can filter out duplicates and sort messages into folders 
 (directories under ~/mail):
 
 PATH=$HOME/procmail:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
 MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
 # DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
 LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog
 LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
 
 # Weed out duplicate messages.
 :0 Wh: msgid.lock
 | /usr/local/bin/formail -D 8192 $HOME/.msgid.cache
 
 # FreeBSD Questions Mailing list
 :0
 * ^List-Id:.*freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
 $MAILDIR/FreeBSD-Questions
 
 This puts questions messages in a folder called FreeBSD-Questions 
 (which you should probably create beforehand).  You'll also need a 
 .forward file or FEATURE(local_procmail) in your sendmail .mc file to 
 use procmail.

If I wanted them in different folders, I'd have sorted them that way.
Unfortunately, what I'd like is a way to visually mark messages as 
originating from a specific mailing list.  Separating them into a
bunch of folders just reduces the likelihood I'll get to all my email
in a given day.  I appreciate the attempt to help, but it doesn't
address my actual preferences.

I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
or email of the original sender in the diplay.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:38:52PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
 
 Right.  In an earlier message you mentioned mutt and procmail, so here
 is a procmail/mutt solution.  First off write a procmail recipe that
 matches the mail list(s) you wish to flag.  In the action line of said
 recipe use formail to add the header X-Status.  Configure mutt to high
 light message which contain the X-Status header.

That's an excellent idea.  Thank you.


 
 If you want me to give you a step-by-step it will have to wait until
 tomorrow because it is time for me to hit the sack.  If you can't wait
 that long look in the archives for the procmail users' mailing about 6
 or so years ago - may be even longer: flagging is what this is called.

I'm sure I can figure it out, now that I have a general approach in mind
to research.


 
 Oh, just remembered, the above assumes you are using mbox format.  If
 you are using maildir there is a solution, but the action is different.

I'm using mbox, so no worries.  Again, thank you.  I really appreciate
it.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:44:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 
 I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
 list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
 or email of the original sender in the diplay.

Color me surprised.  N. J. Mann provided me with an idea for how to make
it work that seems even more effective than I'd expected.  I stand
corrected, re: my expectation that there wasn't a good answer.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Duane Hill

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:


I dont think subject tagging is poor at all.

whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ]
aint all that long.


Then you get someone who either doesn't a) trim the subject or b) the 
client response as such:


  Re: [FBSDQ] Re: [FBSDQ] bla bla bla
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:59PM +, Duane Hill wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:
 
 I dont think subject tagging is poor at all.
 
 whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ]
 aint all that long.
 
 Then you get someone who either doesn't a) trim the subject or b) the 
 client response as such:
 
   Re: [FBSDQ] Re: [FBSDQ] bla bla bla

Since the list is what would attach [FBSDQ] to the subject, it would be
the list that wasn't behaving itself if that happened.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:47:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:38:52PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
 #
  Right.  In an earlier message you mentioned mutt and procmail, so
  here
  is a procmail/mutt solution.  First off write a procmail recipe
  that
  matches the mail list(s) you wish to flag.  In the action line
  of said
  recipe use formail to add the header X-Status.  Configure mutt to
  high
  light message which contain the X-Status header.
#
 That's an excellent idea.  Thank you.

You don't need to add the header.  You can highlight using ~C, which
checks the To: or Cc: for a string.  I have tested a rule in my
.muttrc which does this:

color index red black '(~C freebsd-question)'


It seems to correctly color messages to the freebsd-questions list.

In theory, you should be able to use other mutt patterns as per
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.2

This could allow you to search for the List-ID header and
color/highlight based upon that.

Erik

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