Tared by TAR

2006-09-26 Thread Bob
 
Please forgive me if this is all due to my newbie status. I HAVE RTFM!, and 
that is essentially my problem.

I use tar daily, to make a file-backup of /usr/home. I put a tape in the dat 
(DDS3) drive before I go to bed, and in the morning put it into the 30 day 
rotation box. 

I have recently moved from Linux, to FreeBSD. And pretty much copied my 
scripts from the old Linux box to the new BSD one. A veritable joy I might 
add! AThis is so much better!!!

I went nuts, and got tar'ed and feathered with TAR. I have always used tar 
with the -M option (--multi-volume) which allows you to span more than one 
tape on a big ta archiver;  but you won't find this -M option in BSD's TAR! 
Nor will you find a proper man page, for BSD's port of gtar (gnutar) which I 
THIINK is equivalent to Linux's tar. 

What I ended up doing is a BADF HACK! I copyiny my old linux tar.1.gz manpage 
to gtar on my new system. 
 
HOWEVER, this man page from my old Linux system may, or may not  not be 
correct, given the fact that BSD giggers the makefile with it's own patches  
for every make install, and when you make gtar from 
/usr/ports/archivers/gtar you do NOT get a manpage! BAD! BAD! BAD!  Bug??? 
The differences between bsdtar, and gnutar are quite IMMENSE!
 
Being a stickler, and constant user of,  proper documentation,  I am just a 
bit lost here! Help!

Bob
 
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Re: Tared by TAR

2006-09-26 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 26), Bob said:
 Please forgive me if this is all due to my newbie status. I HAVE
 RTFM!, and that is essentially my problem.
 
 I use tar daily, to make a file-backup of /usr/home. I put a tape in
 the dat (DDS3) drive before I go to bed, and in the morning put it
 into the 30 day rotation box.
 
 I have recently moved from Linux, to FreeBSD. And pretty much copied
 my scripts from the old Linux box to the new BSD one. A veritable joy
 I might add! AThis is so much better!!!
 
 I went nuts, and got tar'ed and feathered with TAR. I have always
 used tar with the -M option (--multi-volume) which allows you to span
 more than one tape on a big ta archiver; but you won't find this -M
 option in BSD's TAR!  Nor will you find a proper man page, for BSD's
 port of gtar (gnutar) which I THIINK is equivalent to Linux's tar.

 What I ended up doing is a BADF HACK! I copyiny my old linux tar.1.gz
 manpage to gtar on my new system.
  
 HOWEVER, this man page from my old Linux system may, or may not  not
 be correct, given the fact that BSD giggers the makefile with it's
 own patches for every make install, and when you make gtar from
 /usr/ports/archivers/gtar you do NOT get a manpage! BAD! BAD! BAD! 
 Bug???  The differences between bsdtar, and gnutar are quite IMMENSE!

Hey, don't blame us!  If you look at the extracted tar-1.15.1
directory, you'll note that they don't even /provide/ a manpage, so
there's not much we can do here.  :(  You'll have to use the info docs,
or do as you did and copy an older gnutar manpage from another system.

-- 
Dan Nelson
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Re: Tared by TAR

2006-09-26 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Bob wrote:

I went nuts, and got tar'ed and feathered with TAR. I have always used tar 
with the -M option (--multi-volume) which allows you to span more than one 
tape on a big ta archiver;  but you won't find this -M option in BSD's TAR! 
Nor will you find a proper man page, for BSD's port of gtar (gnutar) which I 
THIINK is equivalent to Linux's tar. 
 

The manual page for gtar on FreeBSD 5.4 is about 30% longer than the one 
on a random Linux system I looked at, and looks like a proper man page 
to me.  It mentions -M.  Linux tar *is* gtar, though the specific 
version will of course vary between different Linuxes and different 
FreeBSDs.


That aside, try info tar for full blown gory details of gnu tar.

Also, for incremental backups, dump is easy to use, handles multi-tape 
archives and incrementals, and works on Live filesystems; but it does 
only work at the level of a filesystem not random directories.


--Alex


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