Re: Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-24 Thread Micke P

hi,

In order to eliminate the router as a cause, I made a
direct connection from the DSL to the computer (no
router). But I wasn't able to reach the DSL modem page
from my FreeBSD box. So I installed Apache on my
Windows box and ran the line to it. I am able to see
the running website from the ISP-assigned LAN in this
case, but still not able to reach it from the
ISP-assigned dynamic IP. This leads me to believe that
the problem has nothing specific to do with settings
on the FreeBSD box or the router.

The Windows box has no firewall, so there's no issue
of blocked ports, I guess. I keep thinking it's the
ISP, since I don't really understand how requests
could / or could not go from the dynamic IP to the
ISP-assigned LAN IP without their router or whatever.

Micke

--- Viktor Lazlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Micke P wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Well, it's not the router. I removed the router
 and
  went directly to the server. I actually installed
  another server on a windows box. And that didn't
 help.
  I called my ISP and they said they don't block
 ports.
  I'd be glad if anyone could point me in the right
  direction.
 
 What do you mean you installed another server on a
 windows box--that you
 tried running apache under windows and it didn't
 work their either?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Viktor


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Re: Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-23 Thread Micke P

Hi,

Well, it's not the router. I removed the router and
went directly to the server. I actually installed
another server on a windows box. And that didn't help.
I called my ISP and they said they don't block ports.
I'd be glad if anyone could point me in the right
direction. 

I have set up everything as described from several
sources and still the magic of appearing on the
internet is not happening. It's like the dynamic ip is
not forwarded to my network. I can't think of what
else would be the problem.

Thanks,
Micke


--- Viktor Lazlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Micke P wrote:
 
  Do you know what an ISP, earthlink, in this case,
  might do to keep you from serving pages? I'm using
  another port from 80, because I just get the ISP
 modem
  status page when using the dynamic IP with the
 normal
  80 port.
 
 I doubt that would be the case, it is much more
 likely to do with router
 setup.  What is the make and model of your router?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Viktor


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Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-21 Thread Micke P

Hi,

I'm having all kinds of trouble trying to get things
set up to see my website on the Internet. I know
people like to claim to be newbies, but I actually am.
:-)  

My machine (ethernet card) IP is 192.168.254.25 and
I'm serving on port 8080. I can bring up the site no
problem on my LAN- http://192.168.254.25:8080/, but
not outside.

My ISP is earthlink and it's a dynamic IP account.
Right now the WAN IP is: 68.164.84.178. Trying
http://68.164.84.178:8080/ doesn't work. I've opened
the port, 8080, on the router.

What should I look at to solve this? I have
unsuccessfully scoured the complete freebsd book,
handbook, and archives. But haven't found anything to
address this specific problem yet, although it seems
straightforward. If you think I don't understand
networks exactly, you are correct; but it's not for
lack of trying.

Thanks for help,
Micke


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Re: Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-21 Thread Micke P

 Hi Viktor,
 
 See comments below.
 
 --- Viktor Lazlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Micke P wrote:
  
  
   Hi,
  
   I'm having all kinds of trouble trying to get
  things
   set up to see my website on the Internet. I know
   people like to claim to be newbies, but I
 actually
  am.
   :-)
  
   My machine (ethernet card) IP is 192.168.254.25
  and
  I'm serving on port 8080. I can bring up the
 site
  no
   problem on my LAN- http://192.168.254.25:8080/,
  but
   not outside.
  
   My ISP is earthlink and it's a dynamic IP
 account.
   Right now the WAN IP is: 68.164.84.178. Trying
   http://68.164.84.178:8080/ doesn't work. I've
  opened
   the port, 8080, on the router.
  
   What should I look at to solve this? I have
   unsuccessfully scoured the complete freebsd
 book,
   handbook, and archives. But haven't found
 anything
  to
   address this specific problem yet, although it
  seems
   straightforward. If you think I don't understand
   networks exactly, you are correct; but it's not
  for
   lack of trying.
  
 
 
  I'm assuming since you say you can view it at
  http://192.168.254.25:8080/
 
 Yes. On my LAN only.
 
  that you've told apache to listen to port 8080
 
 Yes. 
 
 --have
  you also entered your
  hostname or IP address under ServerName?

 Yes. 
 
 There seems to be no problem with Apache. The site
 is
 being served fine. It's the internet getting the
 signal, that's the problem.


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Re: Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-21 Thread Micke P

--- Paul Everlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Micke P wrote:
  My machine (ethernet card) IP is 192.168.254.25
 and
  I'm serving on port 8080. I can bring up the site
 no
  problem on my LAN- http://192.168.254.25:8080/,
 but
  not outside.
  
  My ISP is earthlink and it's a dynamic IP account.
  Right now the WAN IP is: 68.164.84.178. Trying
  http://68.164.84.178:8080/ doesn't work. I've
 opened
  the port, 8080, on the router.
 
 Right now the IP is 68.164.84.178? 

Yes.

 This is not an
 direct
 answer to your question, but if you're using a
 dynamic
 IP I suggest you go to, for an example DynDNS, and
 get
 a name for your site. After that you should install
 some kind of daemon that updates (in this case)
 DynDNS
 to reflect your dynamic IP-changes. In that way you
 should always be able to connect to your box!
 
 But all that I guess you've already figured out. :-)

Thanks. Yes. I have a domain. But setting it up
doesn't do any good since there is no IP it can
connect to.

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Re: Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-21 Thread Micke P

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I opened the port on my (hardware) router box, not
 the
  FreeBSD firewall. Internet - ISP - Modem -
 Router
  - FreeBSD box. Hopefully that's all I need to do
 to
  forward the port 8080 packets. Do I need to
 configure
  the FreeBSD firewall settings as well to reflect
 the
  port?
 
 no, if you can get to the website from inside your
 hardware firewall (a
 machine other then your freeBSD box) then the
 problem ly's with either
 your hardware firewall, or your ISP.  What Brand
 firewall do you have? 
 Remeber that just opening port 8080 will not work,
 you have to go into the
 Port Forwarding section of your firewall and
 forward the 8080 port to
 your inside box

While it's not called Port Forwarding on the router
setup, I'm certain that is what I've set up. 

Do you know what an ISP, earthlink, in this case,
might do to keep you from serving pages? I'm using
another port from 80, because I just get the ISP modem
status page when using the dynamic IP with the normal
80 port.

I'm afraid I'm just frustratedly baffled.

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Re: Trying to see website from the Internet

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Murphy
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
Micke P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I opened the port on my (hardware) router box, not
  the
   FreeBSD firewall. Internet - ISP - Modem -
  Router
   - FreeBSD box. Hopefully that's all I need to do
  to
   forward the port 8080 packets. Do I need to
  configure
   the FreeBSD firewall settings as well to reflect
  the
   port?
  
  no, if you can get to the website from inside your
  hardware firewall (a
  machine other then your freeBSD box) then the
  problem ly's with either
  your hardware firewall, or your ISP.  What Brand
  firewall do you have? 
  Remeber that just opening port 8080 will not work,
  you have to go into the
  Port Forwarding section of your firewall and
  forward the 8080 port to
  your inside box
 
 While it's not called Port Forwarding on the router
 setup, I'm certain that is what I've set up. 
 
 Do you know what an ISP, earthlink, in this case,
 might do to keep you from serving pages? I'm using
 another port from 80, because I just get the ISP modem
 status page when using the dynamic IP with the normal
 80 port.
 
 I'm afraid I'm just frustratedly baffled.
 

 Are you sure Earthlink is not blocking all the obvious HTTP
server ports? Try using some arbitrary port 32000

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