Re: What is CPP's real default include path?

2008-05-05 Thread Walt Pawley
At 12:06 PM +0200 5/5/08, Mel wrote:
>On Monday 05 May 2008 10:12:05 Walt Pawley wrote:
>> I've been fiddling with compiling nzbget-0.4.0 on a 6.3 system.
>> My initial efforts failed the configuration process for not
>> finding iconv.h. This, despite /usr/local/include/iconv.h being
>> present and supposedly in the include search path if the info
>> documentation can be believed.
>>
>> Just to see if I could learn something, I copied the
>> /usr/local/include/iconv.h to /usr/include/ and tried again.
>> After this, the configuration process completed and the
>> application seemed to "make" and "make install" just fine.
>>
>> Is there some way to ascertain what the set of default include
>> paths actually is?
>
>Even though cc has a million options, there's none that I know that prints the
>system include path (not even in -dumpspecs). However, in practice you can
>assume it's /usr/include.

I bumped into the description of the -v flag whilst perusing
the cpp info docs and did this ... after removing the ersatz
/usr/include/iconv.h mentioned above. Apparently these paths are
compiled in (???).

%cat > x
#include 
%cpp -v x
Using built-in specs.
Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305
 /usr/libexec/cc1 -E -quiet -v -D_LONGLONG x
ignoring duplicate directory "/usr/include"
#include "..." search starts here:
#include <...> search starts here:
 /usr/include
End of search list.
# 1 "x"
# 1 ""
# 1 ""
# 1 "x"
x:1:19: iconv.h: No such file or directory

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Re: What is CPP's real default include path?

2008-05-05 Thread Mel
On Monday 05 May 2008 20:42:23 Walt Pawley wrote:
> At 12:06 PM +0200 5/5/08, Mel wrote:
> >On Monday 05 May 2008 10:12:05 Walt Pawley wrote:
> >> I've been fiddling with compiling nzbget-0.4.0 on a 6.3 system.
> >> My initial efforts failed the configuration process for not
> >> finding iconv.h. This, despite /usr/local/include/iconv.h being
> >> present and supposedly in the include search path if the info
> >> documentation can be believed.
> >>
> >> Just to see if I could learn something, I copied the
> >> /usr/local/include/iconv.h to /usr/include/ and tried again.
> >> After this, the configuration process completed and the
> >> application seemed to "make" and "make install" just fine.
> >>
> >> Is there some way to ascertain what the set of default include
> >> paths actually is?
> >
> >Even though cc has a million options, there's none that I know that prints
> > the system include path (not even in -dumpspecs). However, in practice
> > you can assume it's /usr/include.
> >
> >To make configure scripts believe you have something installed, it's not a
> >good idea to copy headers.
> >Look for a --with-iconv=/usr/local option and failing that, change CFLAGS
> > and LDFLAGS in the environment when configuring.
>
> Admonition understood - I was just experimenting and wanted the
> file to be in a specific place without any uncertainty about
> just what various "look over there" options actually do. The
> reason for such a mind set is that actual behavior of cpp seems
> to differ from its documentation, to wit:
>
>   info cpp :: Header Files::Search Path reads:

FreeBSD uses a modified version of GCC. Info files haven't been updated to 
reflect that.

>   GCC looks in several different places for headers.  On a normal Unix
>   system, if you do not instruct it otherwise, it will look for headers
>   requested with `#include ' in:
>
>  /usr/local/include

Nope.

>  LIBDIR/gcc/TARGET/VERSION/include
>  /usr/TARGET/include

No idea really.

>  /usr/include
Yep.

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Re: What is CPP's real default include path?

2008-05-05 Thread Walt Pawley
At 12:06 PM +0200 5/5/08, Mel wrote:
>On Monday 05 May 2008 10:12:05 Walt Pawley wrote:
>> I've been fiddling with compiling nzbget-0.4.0 on a 6.3 system.
>> My initial efforts failed the configuration process for not
>> finding iconv.h. This, despite /usr/local/include/iconv.h being
>> present and supposedly in the include search path if the info
>> documentation can be believed.
>>
>> Just to see if I could learn something, I copied the
>> /usr/local/include/iconv.h to /usr/include/ and tried again.
>> After this, the configuration process completed and the
>> application seemed to "make" and "make install" just fine.
>>
>> Is there some way to ascertain what the set of default include
>> paths actually is?
>
>Even though cc has a million options, there's none that I know that prints the
>system include path (not even in -dumpspecs). However, in practice you can
>assume it's /usr/include.
>
>To make configure scripts believe you have something installed, it's not a
>good idea to copy headers.
>Look for a --with-iconv=/usr/local option and failing that, change CFLAGS and
>LDFLAGS in the environment when configuring.

Admonition understood - I was just experimenting and wanted the
file to be in a specific place without any uncertainty about
just what various "look over there" options actually do. The
reason for such a mind set is that actual behavior of cpp seems
to differ from its documentation, to wit:

  info cpp :: Header Files::Search Path reads:

  GCC looks in several different places for headers.  On a normal Unix
  system, if you do not instruct it otherwise, it will look for headers
  requested with `#include ' in:

 /usr/local/include
 LIBDIR/gcc/TARGET/VERSION/include
 /usr/TARGET/include
 /usr/include

I'm either missing something very fundamental (which I doubt
not at all) or this should be a somewhat serious problem. There
are 4944 header files in /usr/local/include/ branch on this
system that should be accessible by default but, if my
experience with nzbget is any guide, do not seem to be.
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Re: What is CPP's real default include path?

2008-05-05 Thread Mel
On Monday 05 May 2008 10:12:05 Walt Pawley wrote:
> I've been fiddling with compiling nzbget-0.4.0 on a 6.3 system.
> My initial efforts failed the configuration process for not
> finding iconv.h. This, despite /usr/local/include/iconv.h being
> present and supposedly in the include search path if the info
> documentation can be believed.
>
> Just to see if I could learn something, I copied the
> /usr/local/include/iconv.h to /usr/include/ and tried again.
> After this, the configuration process completed and the
> application seemed to "make" and "make install" just fine.
>
> Is there some way to ascertain what the set of default include
> paths actually is?

Even though cc has a million options, there's none that I know that prints the 
system include path (not even in -dumpspecs). However, in practice you can 
assume it's /usr/include.

To make configure scripts believe you have something installed, it's not a 
good idea to copy headers.
Look for a --with-iconv=/usr/local option and failing that, change CFLAGS and 
LDFLAGS in the environment when configuring.

-- 
Mel

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and never get to the software part.
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What is CPP's real default include path?

2008-05-05 Thread Walt Pawley
I've been fiddling with compiling nzbget-0.4.0 on a 6.3 system.
My initial efforts failed the configuration process for not
finding iconv.h. This, despite /usr/local/include/iconv.h being
present and supposedly in the include search path if the info
documentation can be believed.

Just to see if I could learn something, I copied the
/usr/local/include/iconv.h to /usr/include/ and tried again.
After this, the configuration process completed and the
application seemed to "make" and "make install" just fine.

Is there some way to ascertain what the set of default include
paths actually is?
-- 

Walter M. Pawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Wump Research & Company
676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470
 541-672-8975
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