Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-20 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:52 +0200
Benjamin Walkenhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:40:30 +0530
> Subhro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > cat /etc/make.conf
> 
> 
> PERL_VER=5.8.2
> PERL_VERSION=5.8.2
> PERL_ARCH=mach
> NOPERL=yo
> NO_PERL=yo
> NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
> 
> CPUTYPE=athlon-mp
> 
> CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
> X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg
> 
> 
> But like I said, I think I chose the wrong words - 
> X.org does not perform poorly, it's just that it sometimes will
> use lots of CPU, and I am under the impression it does even more so
> than XFree did.
> Or is it just my perception kidding me?

Try reworking a lot of thinks with out the -O2 flag. I've seen massive
breakage caused by them, with little or no noticeable speed gain.
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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-20 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:56:28 +0530
Subhro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
> > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg
> 
> make this CFLAGS=-O -pipe
> 
> -O2 is known to create more problem than it solves

Thank you very much!
I'm going to try rebuilding X.org as soon as I find the time...

>
> Regards
> S.

Kind regards,
Benjamin

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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-20 Thread Subhro
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:52 +0200, Benjamin Walkenhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:40:30 +0530
> Subhro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > cat /etc/make.conf
> 
> 
> PERL_VER=5.8.2
> PERL_VERSION=5.8.2
> PERL_ARCH=mach
> NOPERL=yo
> NO_PERL=yo
> NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
> 
> CPUTYPE=athlon-mp
> 
> CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
> X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg

make this CFLAGS=-O -pipe

-O2 is known to create more problem than it solves

> 
> But like I said, I think I chose the wrong words -
> X.org does not perform poorly, it's just that it sometimes will
> use lots of CPU, and I am under the impression it does even more so than
> XFree did.
> Or is it just my perception kidding me?

This could be -O2

Regards
S.

-- 
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School of Information Technology
Block AQ-13/1 Sector V
ZIP 700091
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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-20 Thread Charles Ulrich

Benjamin Walkenhorst said:
> Especially using AcroRead burns cycles without end.

This has always been the case for me with the Unix version of Acrobat Reader,
regardless of what X server it's running on or even the OS.

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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-20 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Hello,

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:40:30 +0530
Subhro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> cat /etc/make.conf


PERL_VER=5.8.2
PERL_VERSION=5.8.2
PERL_ARCH=mach
NOPERL=yo
NO_PERL=yo
NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo

CPUTYPE=athlon-mp

CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg


But like I said, I think I chose the wrong words - 
X.org does not perform poorly, it's just that it sometimes will
use lots of CPU, and I am under the impression it does even more so than
XFree did.
Or is it just my perception kidding me?

Kind regards,
Benjamin

-- 
If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce
would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon.
(Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how
to open the door.)
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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-20 Thread Subhro
cat /etc/make.conf 

Regards
S.


On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:39:53 +0200, Benjamin Walkenhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:01:25 -0500
> Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Runs like a champ.
> 
> Good for you. =)
> I'm not really saying it doesn't run sufficiently - or if I was, I
> didn't mean to -, it's just that X.org is consuming large amounts of
> cpu-time.
> I mean, it's not like my system is getting slow, exactly, it's just
> Xorg uses a lot of CPU, sometimes.
> I mean, XFree did that, too, but I am under the impression that Xorg is
> a little worse, in that respect.
> 
> Or is it just my perception tricking me, while Xorg is not that
> different from XFree, technically?
> 
> > Josh Paetzel
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 
> Benjamin
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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-18 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:43:22 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Björn Lindström) wrote:

> Benjamin Walkenhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Or is it just my perception tricking me, while Xorg is not that
> > different from XFree, technically?
> 
> Is your configuration identical? Using certain modules can cost some
> cycles, for instance, so if you also started using any of those with
> your switch, that could explain your impression.

Mmmh, I did not touch the configuration file at all.
Haven't looked at it in a while, actually.
I'll look there and try to disable unused/unneccessary modules.

Thanks,
Benjamin

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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-18 Thread Björn Lindström
Benjamin Walkenhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Or is it just my perception tricking me, while Xorg is not that
> different from XFree, technically?

Is your configuration identical? Using certain modules can cost some
cycles, for instance, so if you also started using any of those with
your switch, that could explain your impression.

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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-18 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Hello,

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:01:25 -0500
Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Runs like a champ.

Good for you. =)
I'm not really saying it doesn't run sufficiently - or if I was, I
didn't mean to -, it's just that X.org is consuming large amounts of
cpu-time. 
I mean, it's not like my system is getting slow, exactly, it's just 
Xorg uses a lot of CPU, sometimes. 
I mean, XFree did that, too, but I am under the impression that Xorg is
a little worse, in that respect.

Or is it just my perception tricking me, while Xorg is not that
different from XFree, technically?

> Josh Paetzel

Kind regards,
Benjamin
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Re: X.org performance?

2004-09-18 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Saturday 18 September 2004 09:57, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am using FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a dual AthlonMP 2400+ with
> 512MB RAM, 60GB of IDE HDD (UDMA100) and a GeForce 4200Ti.

5.2.1-RELEASE-p9
Dual Athlon 2400 MP
768 Meg DDR
80 gig Western Digital 7200 RPM 
Geforce 4 4200 TI nv driver
Fluxbox on Xorg 6.7.0

Runs like a champ.

Josh Paetzel


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X.org performance?

2004-09-18 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Hello everyone,

I am using FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a dual AthlonMP 2400+ with 512MB
RAM, 60GB of IDE HDD (UDMA100) and a GeForce 4200Ti.

I recently switched over X.org. After some minor hassles I actually got
it to work. =) However, I *kind of feel* like performance has become
worse. 
Especially using AcroRead burns cycles without end. But, say, switching
desktops (I'm using WindowMaker) with maximized windows on them also
hits the CPU considerably. ;-?
Does anyone experience similar 'problems'? (I mean, it's not like my
system wasn't working or something) Is there any hope this might get
better with coming versions?

I am using the 'nv' driver, not nVidia's. I tried the nVidia
driver under Linux, once, and it made my system rather unstable. ;-/

Thanks for any hints,
kind regards,
Benjamin
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