Re: blacklist(s)
On Fri, 14 May 2004, Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote:
Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up
sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least
fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory,
can't find it?
There should already be an example in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc (no
linewrap):
dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `550 Mail from ${client_addr}
rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?; ${client_addr}')
[...]
Sorry for this monumentally stupid-sounding question, but how do you tell
if the dnsbl feature is *working* or not? I've got 2 set in my local .mc
files:
FEATURE(dnsbl, `bl.spamcop.net', `550 Mail from ${client_addr} rejected, see
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?; ${client_addr}')
FEATURE(dnsbl,`combined.njabl.org',`Message from ${client_addr} rejected - see
http://njabl.org/lookup?${client_addr}')
(and yes, I did 'make cf install' afterwards), but I don't see any
indication of mail being rejected because of these in my maillog. I do
see mail being rejected because of settings in /etc/mail/access.db. Do
these work silently, or are they not working at all?
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Re: blacklist(s)
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 08:24:16AM -0500, David Fleck wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004, Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote:
Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up
sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least
fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory,
can't find it?
There should already be an example in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc (no
linewrap):
dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `550 Mail from ${client_addr}
rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?; ${client_addr}')
[...]
Sorry for this monumentally stupid-sounding question, but how do you tell
if the dnsbl feature is *working* or not? I've got 2 set in my local .mc
files:
FEATURE(dnsbl, `bl.spamcop.net', `550 Mail from ${client_addr} rejected, see
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?; ${client_addr}')
FEATURE(dnsbl,`combined.njabl.org',`Message from ${client_addr} rejected - see
http://njabl.org/lookup?${client_addr}')
(and yes, I did 'make cf install' afterwards), but I don't see any
indication of mail being rejected because of these in my maillog. I do
see mail being rejected because of settings in /etc/mail/access.db. Do
these work silently, or are they not working at all?
You'll see messages being rejected in your maillog -- like this:
Jun 20 12:41:17 happy-idiot-talk sm-mta[50011]: i5KBf8LW050011:
ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=c-67-162-153-95.client.comcast.net
[67.162.153.95], reject=550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mail from 67.162.153.95
rejected using spamcop.net DNSBL. See
http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=67.162.153.95
If you aren't seeing any rejects then either you haven't installed the
modified sendmail.cf and restarted sendmail properly:
# cd /etc/mail
# make
# make install
# make restart
or you simply haven't had any spam from blacklisted addresses.
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Matthew
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Re: blacklist(s)
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, David Fleck wrote:
Sorry for this monumentally stupid-sounding question, but how do you tell
if the dnsbl feature is *working* or not? I've got 2 set in my local .mc
files:
FEATURE(dnsbl, `bl.spamcop.net', `550 Mail from ${client_addr} rejected, see
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?; ${client_addr}')
FEATURE(dnsbl,`combined.njabl.org',`Message from ${client_addr} rejected - see
http://njabl.org/lookup?${client_addr}')
(and yes, I did 'make cf install' afterwards), but I don't see any
indication of mail being rejected because of these in my maillog. I do
see mail being rejected because of settings in /etc/mail/access.db. Do
these work silently, or are they not working at all?
After changing the .mc file, you have to restart sendmail:
# cd /etc/mail
# make all install restart
DSNBL rejects look like the ones caused by entries in access.db, but
with the message from the FEATURE line.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: blacklist(s)
Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:00:58PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. [ ... ] Well, bit again. The line in my access file was 206.46 550 Verizon email not wanted here that I've commented out. This isn't the first time I've had to fine tune; it probably won't be the last. Apologies! Consider using FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend') and add the following to the access map: Spam:abuse@ FRIEND Spam:postmaster@FRIEND [ Pre 8.12 versions of sendmail use To: instead ] ...which will allow you to block mail as you please using IP or other reject rules, yet not prevent delivery of mail to postmaster and abuse... -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:01:54AM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:00:58PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. [ ... ] Well, bit again. The line in my access file was 206.46 550 Verizon email not wanted here that I've commented out. This isn't the first time I've had to fine tune; it probably won't be the last. Apologies! Consider using FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend') and add the following to the access map: Spam:abuse@ FRIEND Spam:postmaster@ FRIEND [ Pre 8.12 versions of sendmail use To: instead ] ...which will allow you to block mail as you please using IP or other reject rules, yet not prevent delivery of mail to postmaster and abuse... Outstanding idea, at least it seems. This site has all the details: http://www.technoids.org/spamlovers.html I think that most email to postmaster should be allowed, any everything to abuse. thanks for the tip! (and a tip of the hat), gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
- Original Message - From: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: blacklist(s) On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:01:54AM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:00:58PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. [ ... ] Well, bit again. The line in my access file was 206.46 550 Verizon email not wanted here that I've commented out. This isn't the first time I've had to fine tune; it probably won't be the last. Apologies! Consider using FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend') and add the following to the access map: Spam:abuse@ FRIEND Spam:postmaster@ FRIEND [ Pre 8.12 versions of sendmail use To: instead ] ...which will allow you to block mail as you please using IP or other reject rules, yet not prevent delivery of mail to postmaster and abuse... Outstanding idea, at least it seems. This site has all the details: http://www.technoids.org/spamlovers.html I think that most email to postmaster should be allowed, any everything to abuse. thanks for the tip! (and a tip of the hat), gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix Delay_checks does indeed work. However, there are some side effects that need to be taken into consideration. Since you're basically filtering on the delivery of the message, sendmail doesn't check if the user exists until after acceptance. This means, that for each and every spam message you receive for an invalid user, Sendmail has to send a bounce back to the originator. See the gotcha yet? If not read on. :) For example, let's say, your mail server handles 50 - 100 thousand messages every 24 hours, and 25 thousand of those are spam. Not too uncommon in today's internet. Now, let's say that of those 25 thousand messages, 20 thousand (conservative number) have forged return addresses. You don't see these forgeries on unknown users under Sendmail's normal config as the message is rejected at connection time. Still don't see the gotcha? That's ok. I didn't either at first when it happened to me. Let me explain what I saw with it. If sendmail bounces after message acceptance, it now has to send a bounce to each of those 20 thousand forged addresses. Each of those messages will then bounce and return to postmaster after it can't deliver them and at least, 2 things will most definitely occur. 1. The amount of mail sitting in your mail queue will increase. 2. The amount of mail to postmaster will most definitely increase as these messages fail delivery to the forged originators. If you're like me, you tend to keep tabs on your postmaster email for possible problems, but in my experience, my mail load, both for the server and in my mailbox, jumped 150% on my 2 mx's because of delay_check. I ended up disabling delay_check and using amavisd and spamassassin so that I can filter on connection. I personally don't recommend delay_check to be enabled on a large production mta. For smaller systems that don't pass a lot of email, it's fine. However, for larger systems, I'd recommend using a different method. -- Micheal Patterson TSG Network Administration 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 04:02:33PM -0500, Micheal Patterson wrote: - Original Message - From: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: blacklist(s) On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:01:54AM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:00:58PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. [ ... ] Well, bit again. The line in my access file was 206.46 550 Verizon email not wanted here that I've commented out. This isn't the first time I've had to fine tune; it probably won't be the last. Apologies! Consider using FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend') and add the following to the access map: Spam:abuse@ FRIEND Spam:postmaster@ FRIEND [ Pre 8.12 versions of sendmail use To: instead ] ...which will allow you to block mail as you please using IP or other reject rules, yet not prevent delivery of mail to postmaster and abuse... Outstanding idea, at least it seems. This site has all the details: http://www.technoids.org/spamlovers.html I think that most email to postmaster should be allowed, any everything to abuse. thanks for the tip! (and a tip of the hat), gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix Delay_checks does indeed work. However, there are some side effects that need to be taken into consideration. Since you're basically filtering on the delivery of the message, sendmail doesn't check if the user exists until after acceptance. This means, that for each and every spam message you receive for an invalid user, Sendmail has to send a bounce back to the originator. See the gotcha yet? If not read on. :) For example, let's say, your mail server handles 50 - 100 thousand messages every 24 hours, and 25 thousand of those are spam. Not too uncommon in today's internet. Now, let's say that of those 25 thousand messages, 20 thousand (conservative number) have forged return addresses. You don't see these forgeries on unknown users under Sendmail's normal config as the message is rejected at connection time. Still don't see the gotcha? That's ok. I didn't either at first when it happened to me. Let me explain what I saw with it. If sendmail bounces after message acceptance, it now has to send a bounce to each of those 20 thousand forged addresses. Each of those messages will then bounce and return to postmaster after it can't deliver them and at least, 2 things will most definitely occur. 1. The amount of mail sitting in your mail queue will increase. 2. The amount of mail to postmaster will most definitely increase as these messages fail delivery to the forged originators. If you're like me, you tend to keep tabs on your postmaster email for possible problems, but in my experience, my mail load, both for the server and in my mailbox, jumped 150% on my 2 mx's because of delay_check. I ended up disabling delay_check and using amavisd and spamassassin so that I can filter on connection. I personally don't recommend delay_check to be enabled on a large production mta. For smaller systems that don't pass a lot of email, it's fine. However, for larger systems, I'd recommend using a different method. Appreciate your input. I was thinking of the side-affect bounces--that's why I qualified with 'at least it seems'. For now, for maybe some small-N days, I'll enable the delay_check feature. If I get slogged by tons of junk, I'll rely on dspam (or another filter). Like just about everything else, this is a learn-by-experience. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Friday 14 May 2004 07:55 pm, Gary Kline wrote: Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, can't find it? Most DNSBLs have a how-to page with sendmail configuration examples. The sendmail site itself is pretty clear on how to do this (www.sendmail.org) Any thoughts on spamcop.com? I use it, and I feed my spam to it. I think their approach to blacklisting is pretty unique... it's not the central authority model, it's more like a popular vote model. Anyone can vote by feeding their spam to spamcop. Downside(s)?? 1) Their servers apparently get overloaded sometimes, and don't respond. This can lead to two things - both of which are bad: spam gets through if you don't defer good mail gets delayed if you do defer 2) There was some flack a few months ago about spamcop being bought by a commercial outfit. You can Google for the news on this Finally - www.DNSstuff.com, the Spam database lookup is a great source of comparison between all or most of the available blacklists. HTH, Jay tia, people, gary ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Saturday 15 May 2004 02:21 am, Jay Moore wrote: On Friday 14 May 2004 07:55 pm, Gary Kline wrote: Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, can't find it? You also need to consider that using multiple RBL's help. My *.mc file has about 8 RBL sites. The amount of spam is perhaps 2 or 3 mails a day. Just a few pennies ... -- Best regards, Chris ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 07:35:06PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote:
Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up
sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least
fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory,
can't find it?
There should already be an example in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc (no
linewrap):
dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `550 Mail from ${client_addr}
rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?; ${client_addr}')
Change the relevant information to use DNSBLs. For example, here's the
one I use for the excellent XBL-SBL list:
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org', `554 Mail from ${client_addr}
rejected, site listed on http://www.spamhaus.org;')
Thanks to everybody. The one website that showed howto install
spamassassim and-or these blacklist sites (with sendmail) seemed
to suggest not to use too many sites. I dropped in two sites
and noticed the misc spam fall off just since noon, Seattle time.
I just installed the new dspam (2.10.6) and got the mysql link
going. When I have this working too I'll write up a cheat-sheet
tutorial and put it up at bsd.thought.org.
gary
PS: Warren, while I was poking around this morning I found
spamhaus's list. These guys get 5 gold stars... .
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Re: blacklist(s)
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:00:58PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Gary Kline wrote: [ ...speaking of anti-spam... ] According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. Oddly enough, even spammers tend not to spam [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps if only because the postmaster tends to be willing and able to respond to spam effectively. :-/ Well, bit again. The line in my access file was 206.46 550 Verizon email not wanted here that I've commented out. This isn't the first time I've had to fine tune; it probably won't be the last. Apologies! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:20:28PM -0400, Jim Trigg wrote: --On Friday, May 14, 2004 5:55 PM -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts on spamcop.com? AFAIK, you mean spamcop.net (from what I can tell, spamcop.com does not have a blacklist, just a reporting feature and an ad for a Windows-based spam blocking program. The spamcop.net blacklist is somewhat controversial; some people find it too prone to false positives. I personally won't use it to bounce mail, just to mark mail as suspected spam. Thanks for the data-point. I backed off when I saw that spamcop.com was (1) for Doze clients and (2) wanted bux. If spamcop.net has a lot of false positives, then it's a no-go. People I've known for years were seriously pissed when their mail was 550'd. --Of course they had no clue. Here at least we're mostly techies... . gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Sat, 15 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote: Thanks to everybody. The one website that showed howto install spamassassim and-or these blacklist sites (with sendmail) seemed to suggest not to use too many sites. Probably to avoid confusion on the user's part. As long as you understand each DNSBL's listing reasons, there's no real reason not to use several. Speed of DNS lookups could slow mail delivery. Put the larger, aggregate lists like sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org and list.dsbl.org first to get the most from each lookup. PS: Warren, while I was poking around this morning I found spamhaus's list. These guys get 5 gold stars... . Yes, the sbl-xbl lists are excellent. Conservative but effective. Installing the clamav-milter in addition to DNSBLs helps tremendously. The daily barrage of Windows viruses just disappears. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blacklist(s)
Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, can't find it? Any thoughts on spamcop.com? tia, people, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 05:55:03PM -0700 or thereabouts, Gary Kline wrote: Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, can't find it? Sorry, Gary, can't help you here, I don't use Sendmail Any thoughts on spamcop.com? I have spamcop setup as an RBL on my system, and yesterday alone, they blocked over 400 spam attempts. I like them, and have not had any complaints of false listings... I have been using them for over 2 years. -- Gary ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
Gary Kline wrote: Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, can't find it? http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html http://mail-abuse.org/ http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/how_to_domain.php Any thoughts on spamcop.com? They're OK... -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
On Fri, 14 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote:
Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up
sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least
fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory,
can't find it?
There should already be an example in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc (no
linewrap):
dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `550 Mail from ${client_addr}
rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?; ${client_addr}')
Change the relevant information to use DNSBLs. For example, here's the
one I use for the excellent XBL-SBL list:
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org', `554 Mail from ${client_addr} rejected,
site listed on http://www.spamhaus.org;')
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: blacklist(s)
Gary Kline wrote: [ ...speaking of anti-spam... ] According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. Oddly enough, even spammers tend not to spam [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps if only because the postmaster tends to be willing and able to respond to spam effectively. :-/ -- -Chuck begin forwarded message- This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the return address was refused. The return address was '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. Reporting-MTA: dns; out007.verizon.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:39:04 -0500 Received-From-MTA: dns; mac.com (68.161.84.3) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; ns1.thought.org (216.231.43.140) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.0.0 Verizon email not wanted here Subject: Re: blacklist(s) From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Fri, 14 May 2004 21:40:55 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary Kline wrote: [ ... ] Ack! I don't have a problem with refusing mail from *.dsl.verizon.net, or with *.client.comcast.net, or any other dialup/broadband range, but bouncing authenticated mail relayed via Verizon's mailservers is probably excessive. -- -Chuck ---begin forwarded message, snip to actual bounce message-- This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the return address was refused. The return address was '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. --===_ _= 3369445(29216)1084583438 Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; out009.verizon.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:10:25 -0500 Received-From-MTA: dns; mac.com (68.161.84.3) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; ns1.thought.org (216.231.43.140) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.0.0 Verizon email not wanted here --===_ _= 3369445(29216)1084583438 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from mac.com ([68.161.84.3]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 14 May 2004 20:10:25 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:12:16 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: FreeBSD Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: blacklist(s) References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Fri, 14 May 2004 20:10:25 -0500 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blacklist(s)
--On Friday, May 14, 2004 5:55 PM -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts on spamcop.com? AFAIK, you mean spamcop.net (from what I can tell, spamcop.com does not have a blacklist, just a reporting feature and an ad for a Windows-based spam blocking program. The spamcop.net blacklist is somewhat controversial; some people find it too prone to false positives. I personally won't use it to bounce mail, just to mark mail as suspected spam. Jim -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O- /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Hostmaster, Huie Kin family websiteXHELP CURE HTML MAIL Verger, All Saints Church - Sharon Chapel / \ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
