Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-20 Thread PJ
An update on the problems of the boot sector disks. So far, I have not found any errors on the guilty disks from one computer... the Seagate Tools for checking their ( other) disks show no errors on the disks themselves. I haven't finished with them all, yet as I am trying to set up a couple of

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-14 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting shei**e that doesn't make sense. 1. The fbsd minimal installation

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-14 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:41:48 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? I could guess defective RAM here... I suggest running memtest for

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-14 Thread Michael Powell
Ian Smith wrote: [snip] Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios (which I even reinstalled and that changed

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Powell
Roland Smith wrote: [sni[p] - Powersupply: check the voltages (preferably under load) with a monitoring app like mbmon. If that's not possible, check in the BIOS. A failing powersupply can give weird unreproducable errors. If you have ever heard a popping noise from the machine it

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting shei**e that doesn't make sense. 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the previous crash does not boot... Now, why

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD...

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and actually, I am tending more toward

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:58:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally)

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:58:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: Ok, I've

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
For your systems that are running well, get an external harddisk that is at least as big as the one in the machine. On my website I have explained how to prepare this disk in somewhat greater detail: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#usb Then use the dump(8) command to make

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
Hi PJ, On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's allways best to try to break down the problem

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Ruben de Groot wrote: Hi PJ, On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's allways

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:22:23 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: How about 7zip instead of gzip? does better compression, from what I learned ??? Possible, but gzip is part of the OS, while 7zip needs to be installed manually. On a live system CD (FreeBSD, FreeSBIE) is is usually not

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Neal Hogan
Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and we'll see what that does. Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, see if they work and then do a last and final install of everything and see if that works. And if there is a problem then, then I will know for sure

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Steve Bertrand
PJ wrote: Ruben de Groot wrote: Hi PJ, On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:12:27PM -0400, PJ typed: Ruben de Groot wrote: Hi PJ, On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: You probably won't get

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Maybe an 1:1 copy

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread PJ
Ian Smith wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it?

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: Ian Smith wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: [..] Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target disk. You can create

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:34:49AM -0400, PJ wrote: I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need clarification. I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first sector as being Bad. Is

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:34:49AM -0400, PJ wrote: I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need clarification. I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting shei**e that doesn't make sense. 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the previous crash does not boot... Now, why in Hades is that? I

boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, configured working fine with recovered files all working fine and just as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up kind-of hobbles and boots up. I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie,

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Bill Moran
In response to PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca: I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, configured working fine with recovered files all working fine and just as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up kind-of hobbles and boots up. I am called away

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
Bill Moran wrote: In response to PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca: I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, configured working fine with recovered files all working fine and just as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up kind-of hobbles and boots

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough,

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread chris scott
2009/8/11 Polytropon free...@edvax.de On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work.

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:38 +0100, chris scott kra...@googlemail.com wrote: Dumping is all very well and good. However if you want daily or hourly backups etc it is very costly. Thats why our in house system at work is based around rsync and zfs That's of course true. Another option is using

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. Sorry for my

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's dd with a bs=1m? That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-) I could have written dd with a bs of 1m, which does simply mean that the program dd should be

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:19:24PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's dd with a bs=1m? That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-) I could have written dd