bsdcertification.org vs bsdcertification.com (which is which??)

2006-04-20 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez 
Hi,
 
 Anyone here who are interested in taking up bsd certifications?? the 
bsdcertification.org says they are not affiliated with bsdcertication.com. I'm 
confused which one should I pick?? Any idea? I am particularly interested in 
having a  FreeBSD certification..
 
 Thanks.
 

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Re: bsdcertification.org vs bsdcertification.com (which is which??)

2006-04-20 Thread Matthew Seaman 
Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:

 Anyone here who are interested in taking up bsd certifications?? the
 bsdcertification.org says they are not affiliated with
 bsdcertication.com. I'm confused which one should I pick?? Any idea?
 I am particularly interested in having a  FreeBSD certification..

Well, let me put it this way: bsdcertification.org is run by a number of
people well known in the *BSD world as making a valuable contribution to
{Free,Open,Net,Dragonfly}BSD and others.

If you look at the list of names in the left hand column on this page:

http://www.bsdcertification.org/index.php?NAV=Meet%20Us

then with particular reference to FreeBSD you may well recognise:

Dan Lagille   (Freshports, BSD Diary)
Scott Long(leading FreeBSD committer: wrote large chunks of SCSI
   system I believe)
Dru Lavigne   (Wrote 'BSD Hacks' and 'Big Scarey Daemons' OnLamp column)
Wes Peters(Another leading FreeBSD committer)
Jeremy C Reed (Leading FreeBSD Advocacy person)

Greg Lehey(Author of 'The Complete BSD'. Former member of core@,
   well known on this list)
Marshall Kirk McKusick  (co-author of 'The Design and Implementation
  of the FreeBSD Operating System')

[I don't claim any sort of infallible knowledge here -- this is merely the
edited highlights of my impression of who these people are and what they've
done.  Please feel free to correct me if you know better.]

Cheers,

Matthew
 

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RE: bsdcertification.org vs bsdcertification.com (which is which??)

2006-04-20 Thread fbsd 
Never heard of either place you posted.

NJIT is the only place that has a real certification program.

NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's
recognized/endorsed by
the FreeBSD Foundation)

http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix

available both online and in classroom.


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Hi,

 Anyone here who are interested in taking up bsd certifications??
the bsdcertification.org says they are not affiliated with
bsdcertication.com. I'm confused which one should I pick?? Any idea?
I am particularly interested in having a  FreeBSD certification..

 Thanks.


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Re: bsdcertification.org vs bsdcertification.com (which is which??)

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Kinsey 

Matthew Seaman wrote:


Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
 


Anyone here who are interested in taking up bsd certifications?? the
bsdcertification.org says they are not affiliated with
bsdcertication.com. I'm confused which one should I pick?? Any idea?
I am particularly interested in having a  FreeBSD certification..
   



Well, let me put it this way: bsdcertification.org is run by a number of
people well known in the *BSD world as making a valuable contribution to
{Free,Open,Net,Dragonfly}BSD and others.

If you look at the list of names in the left hand column on this page:

   http://www.bsdcertification.org/index.php?NAV=Meet%20Us

then with particular reference to FreeBSD you may well recognise:

   Dan Lagille   (Freshports, BSD Diary)
 



Langille, actually --- and you forgot BSDCan.  http://www.langille.org/


   Scott Long(leading FreeBSD committer: wrote large chunks of SCSI
  system I believe)
 



http://people.freebsd.org/~scottl/


   Dru Lavigne   (Wrote 'BSD Hacks' and 'Big Scarey Daemons' OnLamp column)
 



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dru_Lavigne


   Wes Peters(Another leading FreeBSD committer)
 



I couldn't find a good home page for Wes, but agree
with Matt's evaluation.  Wes is a member of FreeBSD
core team, last I recall, as well.  Perhaps someone knows
his URI.



   Jeremy C Reed (Leading FreeBSD Advocacy person)
 



http://pilchuck.reedmedia.net/jeremy/



   Greg Lehey(Author of 'The Complete BSD'. Former member of core@,
  well known on this list)
 



http://www.lemis.com/~grog/
   (from memory, heh.  Seriously, fascinating collection of material ---
   the web would be a much worse place if disaster struck and
   Greg had no backups).


   Marshall Kirk McKusick  (co-author of 'The Design and Implementation
 of the FreeBSD Operating System')
 



http://www.mckusick.com/

The other site you mention, bsdcertification.com is run by
Jared Barneck, according to whois.  His home page is
at http://www.rhyous.com/.  In 4+ years in FreeBSD, I've
not heard of Jared; that is not to say he should be disqualified
from consideration---it's possible that he runs a fine program.

However, I *have* had dealings with all of the others
above except Mr. Peters, and have found them knowledgeable,
friendly, and deeply concerned about the quality and growth
of FreeBSD.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey

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Thinly sliced cabbage.


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Re: bsdcertification.org vs bsdcertification.com (which is which??)

2006-04-20 Thread Norberto Meijome 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:00:45 -0500
Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matthew Seaman wrote:
 
 Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
   
 
 Anyone here who are interested in taking up bsd certifications?? 

somewhat yes. by far more interested in this than being yet another MSC* , or
even RHCE 

 the
 bsdcertification.org says they are not affiliated with
 bsdcertication.com. I'm confused which one should I pick?? Any idea?
 I am particularly interested in having a  FreeBSD certification..
 
 
 
 Well, let me put it this way: bsdcertification.org is run by a number of
 people well known in the *BSD world as making a valuable contribution to
 {Free,Open,Net,Dragonfly}BSD and others.

indeed. The BSDCert mailing list is quite active - take a look at the archives
for an idea of where the team is at (lots of surveys, documentation, etc being
put together.) - lot of brain power put to use on the subject of what makes a
good BSD admin / user and how to proper validate it, so the cert is actually
indicative of the knowledge/experience.

 The other site you mention, bsdcertification.com is run by
 Jared Barneck, according to whois.  His home page is
 at http://www.rhyous.com/.  In 4+ years in FreeBSD, I've
 not heard of Jared; that is not to say he should be disqualified
 from consideration---it's possible that he runs a fine program.

same here... not a name that i recognise - which doesn't mean he doesn't know
his stuff.

B
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