Re: can I use info from gentoo installation?

2007-04-03 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Jeff D. Hamann wrote:


1) If I try installing FreeBSD, will I be using much of the information 
about the drivers etc. from linux (linux binary compat, etc.)?


Not really at all, AFAIK.

2) I've tried getting FreeBSD (4.9, 5.X, <6.2) to work before on this 
laptop and couldn't even get the NIC to light up (neither of them) and 
the system doesn't have a floppy drive, so getting downloaded files onto 
the machine is tough, at best. When I tried using the USB stick, the 
machine would reboot each time I removed the stick. A no-go for use in 
my book. Are these troubles fixed in the 6.2?




Has it a CD-ROM drive?  Certainly that's the quickest way to
install FreeBSD, as most other OSes.  Plus, you could download
the latest FreeSBIE Live CD (www.freesbie.org) and see for yourself
if the machine will work with a fairly up-to-date codebase.  I
believe that the latest FreeSBIE is using 6.2-RELEASE as a base.

I've got a USB "pen drive" that works fine and has for some time.
OTOH, I've got a "treo" like device that causes panics, last I
checked, and so I'm not using it much anymore.  For the most
part, I've had little trouble at all with USB devices on FBSD.

3) Will I be generating a one time thing by installing BSD on this 
laptop using the linux guide or are there others that need this 
information. I don't mind spending some time (I do have to get real work 
done) if it benefits others, but I don't have the time, if I can spend 
it better (like earning income!)


Use the FreeBSD Handbook.  (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook).  The
work has already been done for you ;-)

3) Is this really worth the trouble, or does anyone have any experience 
with gentoo that they're willing to share that is convincing enough to 
simply forget this exercise and move on :-(


I dropped Windows for FreeBSD 3 years ago (give or take) and have
hardly looked back.

You might wish to Google for "freebsd laptop compatibility list" (there
are a couple out there) and see if your make/model is on any of them.
Also, try mailing the mobile list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and
maybe the chat list (freebsd-chat@freebsd.org) and asking if anyone
has experience with this particular model.

Good luck!

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: can I use info from gentoo installation?

2007-04-03 Thread Jeff Rollin

Hi Jeff

On 03/04/07, Jeff D. Hamann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've been a big fan of FreeBSD for a few years using it on desktop/headless
servers and want to use it on my laptop (clevo m38aw, sager 3880). I
couldn't find much on the web regarding hardware compatibility or
installation guides for FreeBSD for this specific laptop, but did find the
following guide for Gentoo linux

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Clevo_M38AW

but, I really want to stick with FreeBSD (love the ports collection, etc.).
I have a few questions about possible paths to take.

1) If I try installing FreeBSD, will I be using much of the information
about the drivers etc. from linux (linux binary compat, etc.)?


Unfortunately, no. FreeBSD and Linux use entirely different kernels,
which can't use each other's code because of licensing issues. You
might have better luck looking for information on using other BSD's
with that laptop, but don't quote me on that. (If you do, you might
consider using them if FreeBSD does not work - their packaging systems
are similar. Alternatively, try SabayonLinux, which uses Gentoo's
portage system (inspired by FreeBSD ports) but which unlike Gentoo can
be installed quickly using a precompiled set of binaries. They are
also "working up" to having the capability to build binaries from any
of the packages in portage.


2) I've tried getting FreeBSD (4.9, 5.X, <6.2) to work before on this laptop
and couldn't even get the NIC to light up (neither of them) and the system
doesn't have a floppy drive, so getting downloaded files onto the machine is
tough, at best. When I tried using the USB stick, the machine would reboot
each time I removed the stick. A no-go for use in my book. Are these
troubles fixed in the 6.2?


You can find a list of compatible hardware on the FreeBSD website. If
the hardware you want to use isn't not there, it might work, or it
might not.


3) Will I be generating a one time thing by installing BSD on this laptop
using the linux guide or are there others that need this information. I
don't mind spending some time (I do have to get real work done) if it
benefits others, but I don't have the time, if I can spend it better (like
earning income!)


Well, I'm sure people would appreciate any information you can give.
In a world where HP is top dog (taking over from Dell) at only ~17%,
there aren't going to be THAT many people who have any specific make,
never mind model, of laptop.


3) Is this really worth the trouble, or does anyone have any experience with
gentoo that they're willing to share that is convincing enough to simply
forget this exercise and move on :-(


The trouble with Gentoo (and I say this having used it for three years
until just this week) is that when it breaks, it can take ages to fix
it. I probably will go back to Gentoo at some point - some aspects of
the distro, such as its user community, just rock - but for the moment
I have decided that it's too much work.

HTH

Jeff

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can I use info from gentoo installation?

2007-04-03 Thread Jeff D. Hamann
I've been a big fan of FreeBSD for a few years using it on desktop/headless 
servers and want to use it on my laptop (clevo m38aw, sager 3880). I 
couldn't find much on the web regarding hardware compatibility or 
installation guides for FreeBSD for this specific laptop, but did find the 
following guide for Gentoo linux


http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Clevo_M38AW

but, I really want to stick with FreeBSD (love the ports collection, etc.). 
I have a few questions about possible paths to take.


1) If I try installing FreeBSD, will I be using much of the information 
about the drivers etc. from linux (linux binary compat, etc.)?


2) I've tried getting FreeBSD (4.9, 5.X, <6.2) to work before on this laptop 
and couldn't even get the NIC to light up (neither of them) and the system 
doesn't have a floppy drive, so getting downloaded files onto the machine is 
tough, at best. When I tried using the USB stick, the machine would reboot 
each time I removed the stick. A no-go for use in my book. Are these 
troubles fixed in the 6.2?


3) Will I be generating a one time thing by installing BSD on this laptop 
using the linux guide or are there others that need this information. I 
don't mind spending some time (I do have to get real work done) if it 
benefits others, but I don't have the time, if I can spend it better (like 
earning income!)


3) Is this really worth the trouble, or does anyone have any experience with 
gentoo that they're willing to share that is convincing enough to simply 
forget this exercise and move on :-(


Jeff.


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