Re: Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 12:01:24 +0200
O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:

 On several FreeBSD boxes performing portsnap fetch updating the
 ports on a regular basis, folder /var/db/portsnap/files/ gets filled
 over time. I was wondering if there is not an elegant, sophisticated
 way cleaning up those files not needed anymore.

There shouldn't be any need to do that, they are supposed to be deleted
automatically. I have 22371, if you have much more than that you
probably should remove the contents of /var/db/portsnap/ and do another
fetch.
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Re: Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:59:50 +0100
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com articulated:

 There shouldn't be any need to do that, they are supposed to be
 deleted automatically. I have 22371, if you have much more than that
 you probably should remove the contents of /var/db/portsnap/ and do
 another fetch.

I have 22339 files on a FreeBSD 8.1/amd64 system. It might be
interesting to find out how to ascertain the correct number of files
that should be located there.

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Re: Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 12:01:24 +0200, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de 
wrote:
 On several FreeBSD boxes performing portsnap fetch updating the ports 
 on a regular basis, folder /var/db/portsnap/files/ gets filled over 
 time. 

Sorry for not answering your question, but allow me a little
sidenote regarding the proper terminology.

FreeBSD, as every UNIX OS, has *directories*, not folders.
You do also use the name files, not sheets of paper,
don't you? :-)



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Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread O. Hartmann
On several FreeBSD boxes performing portsnap fetch updating the ports 
on a regular basis, folder /var/db/portsnap/files/ gets filled over 
time. I was wondering if there is not an elegant, sophisticated way 
cleaning up those files not needed anymore. Please shed light onto my 
darkness ...


Regards,

O. Hartmann

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Re: Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:24:18 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:

 On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 12:01:24 +0200, O. Hartmann
 ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
  On several FreeBSD boxes performing portsnap fetch updating the
  ports on a regular basis, folder /var/db/portsnap/files/ gets
  filled over time. 
 
 Sorry for not answering your question, but allow me a little
 sidenote regarding the proper terminology.
 
 FreeBSD, as every UNIX OS, has *directories*, not folders.
 You do also use the name files, not sheets of paper,
 don't you?

You say po-tah-toes, he says po-tay-toes, who cares? Were you
completely baffled by what he was trying to convey? At the very least,
you could have attempted to answer his question before giving him a
lecture that served no purpose other than to belittle the OP.

By the way, in Linux and other Unix-like operating system, everything
on the system is treated as being a file, and a directory is thus
considered to be just a special type of file that contains a list of
file names and the corresponding inodes for each file and directory
that it appears to contain. An inode is a data structure on a
filesystem that stores all the information about a file except its name
and its actual data. Therefore, strictly speaking, he could have just
referenced file instead. 

The term folder is used as a synonym for directory on the Microsoft
Windows and Macintosh operating systems.

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Re: Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:22:58 -0400
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:59:50 +0100
 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com articulated:
 
  There shouldn't be any need to do that, they are supposed to be
  deleted automatically. I have 22371, if you have much more than that
  you probably should remove the contents of /var/db/portsnap/ and do
  another fetch.
 
 I have 22339 files on a FreeBSD 8.1/amd64 system. It might be
 interesting to find out how to ascertain the correct number of files
 that should be located there.


$ wc -l   /var/db/portsnap/INDEX 
   22365


I appear to have 6 superfluous files. Perhaps some ports have been
added since you last did a fetch.
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Re: Cleaning /var/db/portsnap/files/, how?

2010-10-04 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:17:02 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
 You say po-tah-toes, he says po-tay-toes, who cares?

I say Kartoffel, you say name server, who cares? :-)



 Were you
 completely baffled by what he was trying to convey? At the very least,
 you could have attempted to answer his question before giving him a
 lecture that served no purpose other than to belittle the OP.

You know that I'm a bit picky about correct terminology, and I've
often said on this list that the things are correctly called
directories because that is their correct name, and even
their more correct name in UNIX context.

In specific fields of language, you have terminology. You have
them in education, in commerce, in politics, in the context of
law, and of course you have them in the field of IT. That is
nothing special, bad, or strange.



 By the way, in Linux and other Unix-like operating system, everything
 on the system is treated as being a file, and a directory is thus
 considered to be just a special type of file that contains a list of
 file names and the corresponding inodes for each file and directory
 that it appears to contain. An inode is a data structure on a
 filesystem that stores all the information about a file except its name
 and its actual data. Therefore, strictly speaking, he could have just
 referenced file instead. 

As he refered to a special file (in the more system-level context
of a file system) the naming directory would be better as it is
not misleading. Using the term file without further explainations
usually refers to a plain file. Let me give a quite formal
example:

usage of inodes = { file | directory | link }

file = { regular file | block device | pipe | ... }

This is not complete (and not trying to be), but it illustrates
that the word file does not carry the meaning directory per se
in its normal in-context use.



 The term folder is used as a synonym for directory on the Microsoft
 Windows and Macintosh operating systems.

Erm... no. Not quite correct.

The term folder is a description of a pictural element that
represents a directory, or, to be correct, it is the NAME of that
pictural element that represents a directory. This word is common
used *instead* of directory in the MICROS~1 land. While
directory is a technical term (as seen in the context of
IT), folder is a rather descriptive term that is used to
refer to the technical term (like when you're refering to
a heavy load transportation truck as a big car).



Jerry, I don't want to pollute the list with discussions about
terminology and other aspects of language and their use, but please
be sure that it was not my intention to belittle the OP, and
I'm sure the OP did understand my comment correctly, as so did
many others before him.

The fact is that we have certain terminology here, and it should
be the most natural thing to use it properly. That's just the
way it is. The use of the correct words distinguishes those who
know what they are talking about from those who don't (yet).

As the OP did post a valid (non-stupid) question to this list,
I am SURE that he knows the difference, so he definitely knows
what he's talking about. Using folder instead of directory
is therefore considered a simple fauxpas by me. It's possible
that the OP has also to work with Windows stuff, or he's also
using a Mac, so he got a little confused.



Now I have to check the zone papers of my Kartoffel, who cares. :-)


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Cleaning up after attack?

2010-02-15 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Hi. I have an up-to-date FreeBSD 7.2 box that has been compromised. Someone 
aparently got in to an account with certain admin priveleges and has been 
sending spam.

I disabled the account, shut off my MTA and used pf to block all traffic to 
port 25 out for good measure.

How do i analyse what might have happened and what has been installed?

Andis there anything to do other than rebuild the entire system to ensure that 
its clean?

Thanks.

Jen


  
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Re: Cleaning up after attack?

2010-02-15 Thread Erik Norgaard

On 15/02/10 11:13, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

Hi. I have an up-to-date FreeBSD 7.2 box that has been compromised. Someone 
aparently got in to an account with certain admin priveleges and has been
sending spam.

I disabled the account, shut off my MTA and used pf to block all traffic to 
port 25 out for good measure.

How do i analyse what might have happened and what has been installed?

Andis there anything to do other than rebuild the entire system to ensure that 
its clean?


If the attacker had privileged access then he may have got a copy of 
master.password, you should assume all accounts compromised, if user 
data are shared with other servers, then all should be considered 
compromised.


Blocking certain access say port 25 is insufficient. You should get it 
off the net until you are sure the system is clean as the attacker may 
have installed some daemon that communicates on a non-standard port.


If you had things like tripwire installed you could get an idea of files 
modified. Otherwise you can use find to create a list of files modified 
since the attack, but this is only useful insofar as the attacker did 
not bother to reset access or modification times.


It may be faster to rebuild everything rather than trying to figure out 
what may have been modified, if your main concern is to get the system 
back up rather than investigate the incident.


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src.conf and cleaning up of base?

2009-08-25 Thread Henrik Hudson
Hello List,

I enabled a few WITHOUT_ options in src.conf. However, the
binaries for that still exists after a installworld. Is there an
automatic way to clean up the base install?

For example, I did a minimal install of 8.0-BETA2, csup'ed down
-CURRENT and set WITHOUT_RCMDS in src.conf . However, rsh is still
installed in /usr/bin  . However, the timestamp is from the original
install BETA2 build and not from my buildworld. For smaller items
like NTP this is fine, but for stuff like WITHOUT_SENDMAIL or
WITHOUT_LPR those binaries can get in the way of their replacements,
ie: Postfix and CUPS.

Anyway to to autoclean the base system?

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Re: src.conf and cleaning up of base?

2009-08-25 Thread b. f.
I enabled a few WITHOUT_ options in src.conf. However, the
binaries for that still exists after a installworld. Is there an
automatic way to clean up the base install?

Yes and no.  These files are supposed to be removed by running:

make delete-old
make delete-old-libs

(see /usr/src/UPDATING).  However, some of the less-commonly used
knobs from src.conf do not receive routine testing, and are broken:
either they break the build, or they leave files behind.  There are
PRs for some of these problems, and others remain to be fixed.  The
best solution for now is to run the commands above, and then do a
separate cleaning of the base system, using the timestamps as a guide.
 Here find(1) is your friend.  I usually use something like:

find /bin /sbin /lib /libexec /rescue /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/include
/usr/lib /usr/lib32 \
/usr/libdata /usr/libexec /usr/share ! -ctime 1

soon after the installation, and then inspect the output before
deleting. Be careful when cleaning, and don't forget that there are a
few commonly-installed ports, like perl, that leave important files in
base system directories.

b.
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Cleaning email

2009-08-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

reading around the FAQ for FreeBSD mailing list, I see that the
mailing list server does some message cleaning (converting HTML to
text, etc).

From reading the list, it does a very good job and I would not mind
using the same facility for my own mail if only I knew what is being
used.

I don't want just any solution, that works more or less, but the very
well tested solution used by FreeBSD mailing lists.

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: Cleaning email

2009-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote:


reading around the FAQ for FreeBSD mailing list, I see that the
mailing list server does some message cleaning (converting HTML to
text, etc).



I don't want just any solution, that works more or less, but the very
well tested solution used by FreeBSD mailing lists.


On the mailing list this is done by the mailing list system, mailman,  
which is in ports/mail/mailman.


But the cleaning stuff is just part of a much larger system (mailing  
list management), so I don't think you can get it to do what you want.


There is a milter,

 ports/mail/mime-defang

which, while it can do many other things (that you don't need to  
enable, also does this.  I haven't used it in more than 5 years, so I  
can't speak for how well it works.  But I did set it up for an  
organization that had lots of Outhouse users on desktops that were  
vulnerable to malicious HTML.


mimedefang is also useful for blocking certain types of attachments as  
well.


There may be better, special purpose tools that do what you want.  You  
could also look at the mailman source (python) to see how it does its  
cleaning.


-j



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Re: Cleaning up multiplicates in elf ldconfig path

2009-03-31 Thread Parv
in message 200903302145.48743.mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net,
wrote Mel Flynn thusly...

 On Sunday 29 March 2009 16:39:15 Parv wrote:
  I am on FreeBSD/i386 6.4-STABLE (around Mar 1, 2009).  I failed
  to find a solution to the (cosmetic) problem of ldconfig path
  having duplicate directories (dmesg output wrapped for this
  email) ...
( ... and both /usr/{X11R6,local} point to /misc/local ... )
 I've been running without /usr/X11R6 symlink for a long time and
 since XFree86 support has been removed from ports, it seems
 logical it can be safely deleted. However, flz@ (maintainer of
 xorg) has the authoritative answer.

Thanks Mel, at least for the confirmation.  Since I sent the email,
I have moved out /usr/X11R6 link (effectively deleted).  After two
days of daily use I have not seen anything different, besides
cleaned up dmesg(1) output.


  - Parv

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Re: Cleaning up multiplicates in elf ldconfig path

2009-03-30 Thread Parv
in message 20090329143915.ga1...@holstein.holy.cow,
wrote Parv thusly...

...
 I failed to find a solution to the (cosmetic) problem of ldconfig
 path having duplicate directories
...
 I suppose I could stick in /etc/rc.conf this ...

   ldconfig_paths=/usr/lib/compat /usr/local/lib 
 /usr/local/lib/compat/package
...

The last path above should have been /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg.


  - Parv

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Re: Cleaning up multiplicates in elf ldconfig path

2009-03-30 Thread Mel Flynn
On Sunday 29 March 2009 16:39:15 Parv wrote:
 I am on FreeBSD/i386 6.4-STABLE (around Mar 1, 2009).  I failed to
 find a solution to the (cosmetic) problem of ldconfig path having
 duplicate directories (dmesg output wrapped for this email) ...

I've been running without /usr/X11R6 symlink for a long time and since XFree86 
support has been removed from ports, it seems logical it can be safely 
deleted. However, flz@ (maintainer of xorg) has the authoritative answer.
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Cleaning up multiplicates in elf ldconfig path

2009-03-29 Thread Parv
I am on FreeBSD/i386 6.4-STABLE (around Mar 1, 2009).  I failed to
find a solution to the (cosmetic) problem of ldconfig path having
duplicate directories (dmesg output wrapped for this email) ...

  ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat \
  /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib \
  /misc/local/lib/compat \
  /misc/local/lib/gcc-4.2.4 \
  /misc/local/lib/gcc-4.3.3 \
  /misc/local/lib/gegl-0.0 \
  /misc/local/lib/gnash \
  /misc/local/lib/graphviz \
  /misc/local/lib/nss \
  /misc/local/lib/qt4 \
  /misc/local/lib/zsh \
  /misc/local/lib/compat
  /misc/local/lib/gcc-4.2.4 \
  /misc/local/lib/gcc-4.3.3 \
  /misc/local/lib/gegl-0.0 \
  /misc/local/lib/gnash \
  /misc/local/lib/graphviz \
  /misc/local/lib/nss \
  /misc/local/lib/qt4 \
  /misc/local/lib/zsh


Note that /usr/X11R6  /usr/local are symbolic links to /misc/local.
Is that what is causing the problem (since /etc/rc.d/ldconfig
reads the default paths of both /usr/X11R6/lib  /usr/local/lib)?

If so, is it ok to eliminate the /usr/X11R6 symbolic link?  And/Or,
is there any other way to remove the multiplicates?  I suppose I
could stick in /etc/rc.conf this ...

  ldconfig_paths=/usr/lib/compat /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/compat/package


... but then I would have make sure above does not miss any new
paths added to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.  Opinions or suggestions?


  - Parv

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Cleaning data off a remote machine

2008-07-28 Thread Chris Hastie
I'm about to give up a FreeBSD dedicated server and would like to make sure I
don't inadvertantly leave any bits of sensitive data on it. What is the best
way to remove all data from the hard drive? I have no problem if this removes
the OS along the way, but ideally I would like to be able to do what ever I do
from an SSH session. If there's no alternative I can arange KVMoIP console
access.

Thanks

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Re: Cleaning data off a remote machine

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew L. Gould

On Jul 28, 2008, at 11:23, Chris Hastie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm about to give up a FreeBSD dedicated server and would like to  
make sure I
don't inadvertantly leave any bits of sensitive data on it. What is  
the best
way to remove all data from the hard drive? I have no problem if  
this removes
the OS along the way, but ideally I would like to be able to do what  
ever I do
from an SSH session. If there's no alternative I can arange KVMoIP  
console

access.

Thanks

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Is there anyone onsite that you could trust to run DBAN (Derik's Boot  
And Nuke)?


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Re: Cleaning data off a remote machine

2008-07-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

don't inadvertantly leave any bits of sensitive data on it. What is the best
way to remove all data from the hard drive? I have no problem if this removes
the OS along the way, but ideally I would like to be able to do what ever I do
from an SSH session. If there's no alternative I can arange KVMoIP console
access.

remove all your files, then


cat /dev/zero file

on every partition


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Re: Cleaning data off a remote machine

2008-07-28 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:23:04PM +0100, Chris Hastie wrote:
 I'm about to give up a FreeBSD dedicated server and would like to make sure I
 don't inadvertantly leave any bits of sensitive data on it. What is the best
 way to remove all data from the hard drive? 

Remove the harddive and move a seriously strong magnet over it. This
will render the drive unreadable and useless, since it will also destroy
the servo control data used for locating the tracks.

 I have no problem if this removes the OS along the way, but ideally I
 would like to be able to do what ever I do from an SSH session.

The security/wipe port comes to mind.

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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 11:23:05AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:

 Hi,
 
 after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I thought 
 of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after the 
 compilation is finished.

Your better bet is to move your /usr/ports to your largest filesystem
and make a symlink to it.   Then you should have enough room to 
make most things.

 This should be much faster and also should do some kind o 
 defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree will 
 still be very well organised after some months.

There is no problem with this.  It is not Microsloth.

jerry

 
 What does the list think of this method?
 
 Erich
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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:31:05PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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 Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
 
  after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I
  thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after
  the compilation is finished.
 
  This should be much faster and also should do some kind o
  defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree
  will still be very well organised after some months.
 
  What does the list think of this method?
 
 Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a make
 distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified will be
 retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local cvs
 repository if this is an issue)

That's a good idea too.
But, it might not do enough.  So, still consider moving /usr/ports.

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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:31:05PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


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Erich Dollansky wrote:

after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I
thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after
the compilation is finished.

This should be much faster and also should do some kind o
defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree
will still be very well organised after some months.

What does the list think of this method?

Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a make
distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified will be
retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local cvs
repository if this is an issue)


That's a good idea too.
But, it might not do enough.  So, still consider moving /usr/ports.

it does what I really want. I do not have a space problem. I simply want 
to get rid of the stuff which is not really needed.


A make clean takes to long.

Erich
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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:34:24AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:

 Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a
 make distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified
 will be retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local
 cvs repository if this is an issue)
 
 That's a good idea too.
 But, it might not do enough.  So, still consider moving /usr/ports.
 
 it does what I really want. I do not have a space problem. I simply
 want to get rid of the stuff which is not really needed.

Tuning in late but this seems appropriate:

Remove all the temporary work files, and remove all distribution files
that are not current with the ports' Makefiles:

# portsclean -CD

Requires the portupgrade port.

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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread Bruce Cran

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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Erich Dollansky wrote:
  

Hi,

after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I
thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after
the compilation is finished.

This should be much faster and also should do some kind o
defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree
will still be very well organised after some months.

What does the list think of this method?



Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a make
distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified will be
retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local cvs
repository if this is an issue)
  


If you're running a make [dist]clean from the top-level directory you 
probably

want to define NOCLEANDEPENDS so it doesn't try and recursively clean each
port - i.e run make NOCLEANDEPENDS=yes distclean.

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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread Chuck Robey
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David Kelly wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:34:24AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 
 Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a
 make distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified
 will be retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local
 cvs repository if this is an issue)
 That's a good idea too.
 But, it might not do enough.  So, still consider moving /usr/ports.

 it does what I really want. I do not have a space problem. I simply
 want to get rid of the stuff which is not really needed.
 
 Tuning in late but this seems appropriate:
 
 Remove all the temporary work files, and remove all distribution files
 that are not current with the ports' Makefiles:
 
 # portsclean -CD
 
 Requires the portupgrade port.
 

In the past, doing a global make clean wouild die, especially on ports that
were marked broken.  I don;'t know if that's been fixed, because about once a
month, i just do:

find /usr/ports -type d -name work -exec rm -rf {} \;

I've had the -delete fail from time to time, I can't remember the error, but
doing the rm via the -exec keyword, that's never failed, and cleaning out the
work directories, that absolutely cleans stuff up quickly.
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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-19 Thread David Kelly


On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:47 PM, Chuck Robey wrote:


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David Kelly wrote:


Remove all the temporary work files, and remove all distribution  
files

that are not current with the ports' Makefiles:

# portsclean -CD

Requires the portupgrade port.


In the past, doing a global make clean wouild die, especially on  
ports that
were marked broken.  I don;'t know if that's been fixed, because  
about once a

month, i just do:

find /usr/ports -type d -name work -exec rm -rf {} \;

I've had the -delete fail from time to time, I can't remember the  
error, but
doing the rm via the -exec keyword, that's never failed, and  
cleaning out the

work directories, that absolutely cleans stuff up quickly.


Not sure how deep the buffers are for wildcard expansion but  
apparently deep enough to do the above simpler. I use tcsh, selection  
of one's shell has everything to do with wildcard expansion.


# cd /usr/ports
# rm -r */*/work
#

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rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-18 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I thought 
of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after the 
compilation is finished.


This should be much faster and also should do some kind o 
defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree will 
still be very well organised after some months.


What does the list think of this method?

Erich
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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-18 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,

 after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I
 thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after
 the compilation is finished.

 This should be much faster and also should do some kind o
 defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree
 will still be very well organised after some months.

 What does the list think of this method?

Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a make
distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified will be
retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local cvs
repository if this is an issue)

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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-18 Thread Brian

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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Erich Dollansky wrote:
  

Hi,

after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I
thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after
the compilation is finished.

This should be much faster and also should do some kind o
defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree
will still be very well organised after some months.

What does the list think of this method?



Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a make
distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified will be
retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local cvs
repository if this is an issue)

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FloSoft Systems
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portsclean -CD may be a help, if it grows as a result of compilation.

Brian


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RE: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-18 Thread Brent Jones
 

 after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, 
 I thought 
 of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after the 
 compilation is finished.

I, like many, just use the portsclean utility to periodically tidy
things up, or after manual ports builds if you forget to do a make
clean.  Doing this should keep things in check and keep your ports tree
from growing.

Cheers,
Brent
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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-18 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

John Nielsen wrote:

On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote:

There are at least two better ways of doing this that will take less time 
and not put unnecessary load on the CVS servers.


this was the main reason for asking. If all would do it, CVSup would be 
of no help at all.


1) Delete work directories after building ports. If you use the clean 
make target it will do this automatically. I typically do make install 


This is what I always did but it is also time consuming on slower machines.

2) Use WRKDIRPREFIX. I set this in my .cshrc, but you can set it manually or 


I have not noticed this before. This sounds to be the best option. It 
will result it what I want and still will not put any load on any 
machine except of mine if I have to rebuild.


See man ports for more information on the port build infrastructure and 
associated make targets and environment variables.


I do this ones in a while but never noticed or did not understand the 
use of WRKDIRPREFIX.


The other thing in the ports collection that tends to take up space is the 
distfiles directory. If you want to delete it wholesale then go ahead 


I do the cleaning work manually there. I delete only double entries to 
avoid additional downloading.



HTH,


I think, it really does.

Erich
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Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree

2007-12-18 Thread John Nielsen
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I thought
 of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after the
 compilation is finished.

 This should be much faster and also should do some kind o
 defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree will
 still be very well organised after some months.

 What does the list think of this method?

There are at least two better ways of doing this that will take less time 
and not put unnecessary load on the CVS servers.

1) Delete work directories after building ports. If you use the clean 
make target it will do this automatically. I typically do make install 
clean to install the port then delete the work directory in one command. 
Portupgrade and other tools will generally do this as well. If you already 
installed a port you can just do make clean to get rid of its work 
directory. If you (suspect that you) have a large number of work 
directories (either because your builds got interrupted or you forgot to 
use the clean target) you can do something 
like find /usr/ports -maxdepth 3 -type d -name work -delete to get them 
all in one go.

2) Use WRKDIRPREFIX. I set this in my .cshrc, but you can set it manually or 
in whatever file is appropriate for your (root) shell. e.g. after doing 
a setenv WRKDIRPREFIX /usr/scratch all of the work directories are 
created under /usr/scratch/usr/ports/category/portname instead of 
under /usr/ports directly. Whenever I feel like cleaning up I can 
just rm -r /usr/scratch/usr/ports without losing anything.

See man ports for more information on the port build infrastructure and 
associated make targets and environment variables.

The other thing in the ports collection that tends to take up space is the 
distfiles directory. If you want to delete it wholesale then go ahead 
(rm -r /usr/ports/distfiles), but it's not uncommon to have multiple 
ports or multiple revisions of the same port use the same distfile(s), so 
you'll end up downloading them again and again. I prefer to use the 
script /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/distclean.sh. Run with a -f flag it will 
automatically delete all distfiles no longer referenced by any port in your 
ports tree.

HTH,

JN
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cleaning uploads

2007-05-02 Thread jekillen

Hello again:
Does anyone on this list know of a system or software bundle
that can be used with php to clean uploaded files. Specifically,
embedded php or shell scripts, shell escape chars, viruses,
executable code in image files, anything that might be hazardous
in any file that might be capable of being sent as an e-mail attachment?
Using FreeBSD 6.2, Apache 1.3.37,  php 5.2.1, web site to receive
uploads will be using ssl.
I have asked on the php general question list but have not gotten
a useable response.
Thanks in advance;
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Re: cleaning old files

2007-03-08 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,
 
 Somehow in the process of upgrading PHP from 5.16 to 5.2.1 I got a few
 5.1.6 extenstions which were not deleted. When I issue pkg_info -Ix php5,
 I get:
 
 php5-ctype-5.1.6The ctype shared extension for php
 php5-ctype-5.1.6_2  The ctype shared extension for php
 php5-dom-5.1.6  The dom shared extension for php
 php5-dom-5.1.6_2The dom shared extension for php
 
 and so on. I tried checking /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini but there
 are no double entries in there. My question is how do I get rid of these
 old extensions? Vulnerability test port alerts me I still have them.
 Thanks!

Looks like your ports database got corrupted at some point.

I would just pkg_delete -f them, then reinstall the correct version if
needed.

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cleaning old files

2007-03-07 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello,

Somehow in the process of upgrading PHP from 5.16 to 5.2.1 I got a few
5.1.6 extenstions which were not deleted. When I issue pkg_info -Ix php5,
I get:

php5-ctype-5.1.6The ctype shared extension for php
php5-ctype-5.1.6_2  The ctype shared extension for php
php5-dom-5.1.6  The dom shared extension for php
php5-dom-5.1.6_2The dom shared extension for php

and so on. I tried checking /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini but there
are no double entries in there. My question is how do I get rid of these
old extensions? Vulnerability test port alerts me I still have them.
Thanks!

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cleaning out log files?

2006-11-26 Thread Oliver Iberien
I've noticed that my /var partition, on a machine being used as a desktop, is 
about 80% full and would like to know what in it can safely be deleted, or if 
there is some accepted way to trim log files down with a cron job, etc. 
Thanks!

Oliver
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Re: cleaning out log files?

2006-11-26 Thread Lane Holcombe
On Sunday 26 November 2006 12:37, Oliver Iberien wrote:
 I've noticed that my /var partition, on a machine being used as a desktop,
 is about 80% full and would like to know what in it can safely be deleted,
 or if there is some accepted way to trim log files down with a cron job,
 etc. Thanks!

 Oliver
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Oliver,

Take a look at /etc/newsyslog.conf as it is designed just for rotating and 
removing log files

lane
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Re: cleaning out log files?

2006-11-26 Thread RW
On Sunday 26 November 2006 18:37, Oliver Iberien wrote:
 I've noticed that my /var partition, on a machine being used as a desktop,
 is about 80% full and would like to know what in it can safely be deleted,
 or if there is some accepted way to trim log files down with a cron job,
 etc. Thanks!

Are you sure it's the log files, they should be rotated automatically. 

Try running running  du -md1 /var  (as root).
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Re: cleaning out log files?

2006-11-26 Thread Armin Arh
Check /etc/newsyslog.conf
All log-files you like to have rotated, should be mentioned there.

System owned logs are in there per default.

du -k /var will tell you where your space is being consumed.
Maybe your /var/mail/root is growing...

How big is your /var anyway?

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On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 10:37:18AM -0800, Oliver Iberien wrote:
 I've noticed that my /var partition, on a machine being used as a desktop, is 
 about 80% full and would like to know what in it can safely be deleted, or if 
 there is some accepted way to trim log files down with a cron job, etc. 
 Thanks!
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Re: cleaning out log files?

2006-11-26 Thread Oliver Iberien
Thank you! I knew something like that had to exist.

It turns out there was a core dump I had not noticed. I had the idea of 
running ls -SlhR /var/  /.../var_contents.txt and looking for anything huge. 

Oliver

On Sunday 26 November 2006 10:54, you wrote:
 Check /etc/newsyslog.conf
 All log-files you like to have rotated, should be mentioned there.

 System owned logs are in there per default.

 du -k /var will tell you where your space is being consumed.
 Maybe your /var/mail/root is growing...

 How big is your /var anyway?

 Armin
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Re: cleaning out log files? [top-posting corrected]

2006-11-26 Thread Oliver Iberien
On Sunday 26 November 2006 10:54, you wrote:
 Check /etc/newsyslog.conf
 All log-files you like to have rotated, should be mentioned there.

 System owned logs are in there per default.

 du -k /var will tell you where your space is being consumed.
 Maybe your /var/mail/root is growing...

 How big is your /var anyway?

 Armin

Thank you! I knew something like that had to exist.

It turns out there was a core dump I had not noticed. I had the idea of 
running ls -SlhR /var/  /.../var_contents.txt and looking for anything huge. 

Oliver
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Re: cleaning out log files?

2006-11-26 Thread RW
On Sunday 26 November 2006 19:21, Oliver Iberien wrote:
 Thank you! I knew something like that had to exist.

 It turns out there was a core dump I had not noticed. I had the idea of
 running ls -SlhR /var/  /.../var_contents.txt and looking for anything
 huge.


FreeBSD has some useful periodic scripts for keeping this kind of thing under 
control - most of which are off by default. You can see the defaults 
in /etc/defaults/periodic.conf and override them in /etc/periodic.conf

For example:

# 100.clean-disks
daily_clean_disks_enable=NO   # Delete files daily
daily_clean_disks_files=[#,]* .#* a.out *.core *.CKP .emacs_[0-9]*
daily_clean_disks_days=3# If older than this
daily_clean_disks_verbose=YES # Mention files 
deleted
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Re: cleaning out log files? [top-posting corrected]

2006-11-26 Thread Robert Huff
Oliver Iberien writes:

  It turns out there was a core dump I had not noticed. I had the
  idea of running ls -SlhR /var/  /.../var_contents.txt and
  looking for anything huge.

Try this instead:

du /var | sort -nr | head -n 25 | sendmail you



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Adesklets issue - cleaning up the installation

2006-08-28 Thread Viswas Nair

I had installed adesklets and everything was working fine until adesklets
crashed with a TK_GUI related error. I couln't find out where the problem
was so I make deinstalled it and tried to build it again. It simply wouldnt
work. The build completes but when I run the installation program (-i
option) i get a window which is fully black. Uninstalling and doing a
pkg_add doesnt seem to help either.

I think the uninstallation didnt clear all the contents and is causing
trouble. How can i be sure that everything was removed? Should i be
uninstalling and reinstalling all dependencies to be sure?

Thanks,
Vishy
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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-21 Thread Derek Ragona
Download the utility to low-level format the drive from the drive makers 
website.


-Derek


At 06:46 PM 5/20/2006, Gary Kline wrote:

Gang,

A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
(Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000
Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and
press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
-I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
but this was [mumble] years ago.

thanks for any tips, y'all,

gary


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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:21:23PM -0500, Charles Howse wrote:
 
 On May 20, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Gang,
 
  A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
  on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
  to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
  on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
  (Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000
  Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and
  press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
  complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
  is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
  -I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
  MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
  but this was [mumble] years ago.
 
  thanks for any tips, y'all,
 
  gary
 
 Looking for delpart.exe?  I've used it, it'll do the trick.
 http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm
 

Your suggestion would do the trick except that I cannot get
any W2K installed.  That's the problem.  So I'm stuck between 
the rational (unix) and the imbecilic (guess).

Too bad there isn't some unix/linux port, hopefully floppy-sized 
that will boot just enough DOS to use delpart.exe.  

Maybe FreeDOS has a boot floppy?  Ahnybody here know?

gary


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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-21 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 13:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:21:23PM -0500, Charles Howse wrote:
  
  On May 20, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
  
 Gang,
  
 A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
 on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
 to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
 on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
 (Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000
 Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and
 press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
 complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
 is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
 -I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
 MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
 but this was [mumble] years ago.
  
 thanks for any tips, y'all,
  
 gary
  
  Looking for delpart.exe?  I've used it, it'll do the trick.
  http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm
  
 
   Your suggestion would do the trick except that I cannot get
   any W2K installed.  That's the problem.  So I'm stuck between 
   the rational (unix) and the imbecilic (guess).
 
   Too bad there isn't some unix/linux port, hopefully floppy-sized 
   that will boot just enough DOS to use delpart.exe.  
 
   Maybe FreeDOS has a boot floppy?  Ahnybody here know?
 
   gary
 
 

Have you tried Knoppix?  You can use the dd command to wipe a disk very
effectively.  And if the machine won't boot Knoppix, I would suspect a
hardware problem.


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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:24:31AM +1000, Rowdy wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
  Gang,
 
  A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
  on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
  to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
  on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
  (Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000 
  Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and 
  press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
  complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
  is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
  -I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
  MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
  but this was [mumble] years ago.
 
  thanks for any tips, y'all,
 
  gary
 
 
 
 fdisk /mbr
 
 Rowdy


Well, I thought this would work, no-sweat.  But I tried it 
(on the target server [ Ubuntu ]) as root, and got

/mbr not found

so I'm guessing  you mean the DOS fdisk; the thing with the
undocumented feature.  But I have not had/used DOS/Win-3.11
since 1993.  

thanks for the idea.  

gary



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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 09:57:44PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote:
 Quoting Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Gang,
 
  A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
  on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
  to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
  on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
  (Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000
  Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and
  press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
  complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
  is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
  -I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
  MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
  but this was [mumble] years ago.
 
 Boot to a recent FreeBSD Install CD (with the Rescue tools on disk 1) 
 or a not-so-recent FreeBSD Rescue CD, and go to rescue mode.
 
 After verifying the device name of the drive you're trying to clean 
 (using dmesg and/or fdisk), do this (I'm assuming a single drive, ad0):
 
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=32k count=1
 
 That will overwrite the first 32k of the drive with zeroes.  That 
 should wipe out the MBR and the partition table.  Since you want the 
 drive to be clean anyway, it doesn't hurt to make the bs or count 
 values higher.  To zero out the entire drive, you could do this:
 
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m
 
 (With no count option it will write to the end of the device.)
 
 Doing any of this on a drive with data you care about is of course 
 contraindicated.
 

This looks like the best way of getting rid of the master boot
rec; thanks.

gary



 JN

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cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-20 Thread Gary Kline
Gang,

A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
(Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000 
Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and 
press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
-I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
but this was [mumble] years ago.

thanks for any tips, y'all,

gary


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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-20 Thread Gerard Seibert
Gary Kline wrote:

   Gang,
 
   A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
   on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
   to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
   on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
   (Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000 
   Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and 
   press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
   complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
   is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
   -I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
   MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
   but this was [mumble] years ago.
 
   thanks for any tips, y'all,
 
   gary

Personally, I keep a copy of FreeDOS http://www.freedos.com available
for just such an occasion. I am sure there are easier ways though.

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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-20 Thread Charles Howse


On May 20, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote:


Gang,

A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
(Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000
Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and
press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
-I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
but this was [mumble] years ago.

thanks for any tips, y'all,

gary


Looking for delpart.exe?  I've used it, it'll do the trick.
http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm

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http://bubbabbq.homeunix.net


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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-20 Thread Rowdy

Gary Kline wrote:

Gang,

A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
	(Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000 
	Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and 
	press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps

complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
-I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
but this was [mumble] years ago.

thanks for any tips, y'all,

gary




fdisk /mbr

Rowdy
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Re: cleaning off unix/linux????

2006-05-20 Thread John Nielsen

Quoting Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Gang,

A 40G drive that I thought was bad (when trying to install W2K
on the drive) may be entirely good.  I am trying to avoid having
to buy a DOS/Win platform.  I've had both W2K and FBSD or Ubuntu
on this one machine.  For various reasons I need one DOS machine.
(Already have 7 or 8 *Nix servers.)   The Windows 2000
Professional CD find some other non-Windows partition and
press D and L as I will, the installation CD keeps
complaining.  Eventually I have to hit F3 to quit.  So, nutshell,
is there any way I can completely remove any trace of *Nix?
-I remember having a DOS floppy and typing an undocumented
MBR \ command that wiped the drive clean of this boot record,
but this was [mumble] years ago.


Boot to a recent FreeBSD Install CD (with the Rescue tools on disk 1) 
or a not-so-recent FreeBSD Rescue CD, and go to rescue mode.


After verifying the device name of the drive you're trying to clean 
(using dmesg and/or fdisk), do this (I'm assuming a single drive, ad0):


dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=32k count=1

That will overwrite the first 32k of the drive with zeroes.  That 
should wipe out the MBR and the partition table.  Since you want the 
drive to be clean anyway, it doesn't hurt to make the bs or count 
values higher.  To zero out the entire drive, you could do this:


dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m

(With no count option it will write to the end of the device.)

Doing any of this on a drive with data you care about is of course 
contraindicated.


JN
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Cleaning-up stale PID files on reboot

2005-11-25 Thread RW
I start mlnet, the daemon part of mldonkey, from it's local rc.d script on 
bootup. If mlnet isn't shutdown properly, it leaves behind a pid file that 
prevents the daemon  running until I notice and manually delete the file. 

What's the best way to deal with this? I was wondering if there is some 
standard place to clean-up after an improper shutdown. 

Is mlnet doing something wrong?  I don't get the same problem with other 
daemons.
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cleaning DVD+RW on Plextor PX-716a

2005-05-07 Thread Ilia Chipitsine
Dear Sirs,
do I need to clean RW disk before writing ?
why it says errors to me:
design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 format dwd+rw
burncd: format media type invalid: Unknown error: 0
Cheers,
Ilia Chipitsine
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Re: cleaning DVD+RW on Plextor PX-716a

2005-05-07 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 03:18:40PM +0600, Ilia Chipitsine wrote:
 Dear Sirs,
 
 do I need to clean RW disk before writing ?


No.  You should be able to rewrite on a DVD+RW without any blacking
operation.

 why it says errors to me:
 
 design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 format dwd+rw
 burncd: format media type invalid: Unknown error: 0
 

I don't know about burncd and DVD+RW but you should try growisofs,
see
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html
and section 16.7.5 Using a DVD+RW

Marc
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Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Paul Richards
Hi,
Is there an easy way to have FreeBSD (RELEASE-5.3) clean /tmp on boot
by means of setting a flag or something in /etc/rc.conf?  I'd like to
check before I start manually hacking up my boot scripts to get this
done.

Alternatively, is there something similar to tmpfs from Linux
available on FreeBSD?  I've heard about mfs but it statically
allocates memory from the VM, I'd prefer if allocation was done only
as needed on demand.



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Re: Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Nelis Lamprecht
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:42:17 +, Paul Richards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Is there an easy way to have FreeBSD (RELEASE-5.3) clean /tmp on boot
 by means of setting a flag or something in /etc/rc.conf?  I'd like to
 check before I start manually hacking up my boot scripts to get this
 done.

I believe it's: clear_tmp_enable=YES


Nelis
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Re: Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:42:17PM +, Paul Richards wrote:

 Is there an easy way to have FreeBSD (RELEASE-5.3) clean /tmp on boot
 by means of setting a flag or something in /etc/rc.conf?  I'd like to
 check before I start manually hacking up my boot scripts to get this
 done.

Add:

   clear_tmp_enable=YES

to /etc/rc.conf.  Also consider 'daily_clean_tmps_enable=YES' in
/etc/periodic.conf, which will enable a daily job to clean out old
files from temporary directories.
 
 Alternatively, is there something similar to tmpfs from Linux
 available on FreeBSD?  I've heard about mfs but it statically
 allocates memory from the VM, I'd prefer if allocation was done only
 as needed on demand.

Yes -- correct, it is called 'mdmfs' under 5.x -- but it isn't
necessarily true that it allocates memory out of VM: depending on the
arguments used when configuring the underlying md(4) device, the
memory can be swap or file backed. When it's used to provide a /tmp
filesystem, it is specifically swap backed.  As is explained in the
mdmfs(8) man page. Add the following to /etc/rc.conf to enable using a
memory filesystem for /tmp:

tmpmfs=YES
tmpsize=128m

Note that tmpsize should be smaller than the amount of swap space on
your machine -- preferably quite a bit smaller -- or you can end up
with a situation where any user can potentially DoS your server simply
by creating files under /tmp

   Cheers,

   Matthew   

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Re: Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-02-24 14:49, Nelis Lamprecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:42:17 +, Paul Richards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Is there an easy way to have FreeBSD (RELEASE-5.3) clean /tmp on boot
 by means of setting a flag or something in /etc/rc.conf?  I'd like to
 check before I start manually hacking up my boot scripts to get this
 done.

 I believe it's: clear_tmp_enable=YES

True.  I'm just replying here to note that this and other tunables of
the rc.d scripts are documented in rc.conf(5):

% man rc.conf

If anyone happens to find an option that is not documented, then it's a
bug of the manpage and the freebsd-doc people will be glad to hear about
it; either with a simple post to the list or (preferably) through a new
problem report submission :-)

- Giorgos

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Re: Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Lars Kristiansen
 Alternatively, is there something similar to tmpfs from Linux
 available on FreeBSD?  I've heard about mfs but it statically
 allocates memory from the VM, I'd prefer if allocation was done only
 as needed on demand.

Found these:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41E01905.3040200
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?45044.1105365790

So swap backed memory disks only swaps to disk when necessary.

Wish that could have been mentioned in the handbook or man-pages.
Should I try to PR that? Someone more knowledgeable will do it I hope :-)


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Re: Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Lars Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Alternatively, is there something similar to tmpfs from Linux
  available on FreeBSD?  I've heard about mfs but it statically
  allocates memory from the VM, I'd prefer if allocation was done only
  as needed on demand.
 
 Found these:
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41E01905.3040200
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?45044.1105365790
 
 So swap backed memory disks only swaps to disk when necessary.
 
 Wish that could have been mentioned in the handbook or man-pages.
 Should I try to PR that? Someone more knowledgeable will do it I hope :-)

--- src/share/man/man4/md.4.ORIG   Thu Feb 24 11:51:37 2005
+++ src/share/man/man4/md.4Thu Feb 24 11:51:51 2005
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@
 This allows for mounting ISO images without the tedious
 detour over actual physical media.
 .It Cm swap
-Backing store is allocated from swap space.
+Backing store is allocated from virtual memory space.
 .El
 .Pp
 For more information, please see

Feel free to PR.
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Re: Cleaning /tmp on boot

2005-02-24 Thread Lars Kristiansen
Lowell Gilbert skrev:
Lars Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

Alternatively, is there something similar to tmpfs from Linux
available on FreeBSD?  I've heard about mfs but it statically
allocates memory from the VM, I'd prefer if allocation was done only
as needed on demand.
 

Found these:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41E01905.3040200
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?45044.1105365790
So swap backed memory disks only swaps to disk when necessary.
Wish that could have been mentioned in the handbook or man-pages.
Should I try to PR that? Someone more knowledgeable will do it I hope :-)
   

--- src/share/man/man4/md.4.ORIG   Thu Feb 24 11:51:37 2005
+++ src/share/man/man4/md.4Thu Feb 24 11:51:51 2005
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@
This allows for mounting ISO images without the tedious
detour over actual physical media.
.It Cm swap
-Backing store is allocated from swap space.
+Backing store is allocated from virtual memory space.
.El
.Pp
For more information, please see
Feel free to PR.
 

Thank you, done. (or tried to)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=78041
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RE: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-07 Thread Matt LaPlante
That's correct; this type of functionality is exactly what I was searching
for.


 -Original Message-
 From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:50 AM
 To: Michael C. Shultz
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Matt LaPlante
 Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
 
 
 There's still one missing part to it that gentoo's portage has.  In
 addition to the standard database of installed packages, emerge keeps
 track
 of every single package that you explicitly installed in a file called
 world.  Upgrades read this file and update all the packages listed,
 including there dependencies first.  Now if a package that was installed
 to satisfy a dependency, but not explicitly installed is now longer
 needed, it will stay on the system until the next time emerge --depclean
 is run.  --depclean tells emerge to remove any packages that are not in
 the world file and are not needed to satify dependencies for packages in
 the world file, either directly or indirectly.  I think this is the
 behavior that the original poster was asking for.  AFAIK, this is not
 yet possible in FreeBSD, but it should be a trivial matter to add
 something like a world file to portupgrade.  Maybe, if I have time this
 week I could work on a patch...
 
 

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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-01 Thread Christopher Illies
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:32:41PM -0500, Matt LaPlante wrote:
 
 I know the ports system is designed to install dependencies automatically,
 but how does one go about removing them?  Say one large package installs
 several dependencies, but then later on that package is removed...and now
 we're left with several orphaned packages.  Is there a way to either detect,
 or even automatically clean out orphaned packages?  I'm particularly
 concerned because I'm dealing with a few systems which are rather well aged,
 and have gone through several upgrade cycles.  I know the Linux version of
 the ports system found in Gentoo (portage) offers extensive functionality
 for finding and removing orphaned dependencies, so I'm hoping FreeBSD has
 some such feature as well.  Thanks.

Have a look at /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_cutleaves. It is a script that
detects and removes orphaned dependencies.

Christopher
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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-01 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On 31 Jan Michael C. Shultz wrote:

 If sysutils/pkg_cutleaves isn't right, please provide good detail why.

What's the benefir over using portsclean -D or portsclean -CDPP
Works like a charm. (see man portsclean).

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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-01 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:31 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
 On 31 Jan Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  If sysutils/pkg_cutleaves isn't right, please provide good detail
  why.

 What's the benefir over using portsclean -D or portsclean -CDPP
 Works like a charm. (see man portsclean).

Portsclean has nothing to do with what Matt is looking for. He is trying 
to remove ports that are installed but have no useful purpose.

-Mike

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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-01 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 06:22:58PM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
 On Monday 31 January 2005 06:16 pm, Matt LaPlante wrote:
  Well what I'm more concerned with is how would you locate orphaned
  dependencies after the fact.  For a parallel example, in gentoo you
  would emerge --depclean which searches the tree for any orphaned
  packages and removes them.  So say I hadn't used the -r flag when
  removing packages on BSD, how could I find the leftovers later?
 
 Look at /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_cutleaves
 
 here is a excerpt from its man page:
 
 pkg_cutleaves  finds  installed 'leaf' packages, i.e. packages that are
  not referenced by any other installed package, and lets you decide  for
  each  one  if  you want to keep or deinstall it (via pkg_deinstall(1)).
 Once the packages marked for  removal  have  been  flushed/deinstalled,
  you'll  be  asked  if  you want to do another run (to see packages that
  have become 'leaves' now because you've deinstalled the package(s) that
  depended  on  them).  In every run you will be shown only packages that
  you haven't marked for keeping, yet.

There's still one missing part to it that gentoo's portage has.  In
addition to the standard database of installed packages, emerge keeps track
of every single package that you explicitly installed in a file called
world.  Upgrades read this file and update all the packages listed,
including there dependencies first.  Now if a package that was installed
to satisfy a dependency, but not explicitly installed is now longer
needed, it will stay on the system until the next time emerge --depclean
is run.  --depclean tells emerge to remove any packages that are not in
the world file and are not needed to satify dependencies for packages in
the world file, either directly or indirectly.  I think this is the
behavior that the original poster was asking for.  AFAIK, this is not
yet possible in FreeBSD, but it should be a trivial matter to add
something like a world file to portupgrade.  Maybe, if I have time this
week I could work on a patch...

 
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   -Original Message-
   From: Pat Maddox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 PM
   To: Matt LaPlante
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
  
   If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then
   it'll let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to
   delete the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you
   want to delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can
   use the -r flag.
  
   Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.
  
   I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)
 
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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-01 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* David J. Weller-Fahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-02-01 08:24 +0100]:
 * Matt LaPlante [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-02-01 02:36 +0100]:
 Attached is my script, and my conf file.

Unfortunately, my script got stripped.  Here's the script with a txt
extension.

Regards,
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#!/bin/sh
# $HOME/bin/rm_leaf.sh
set -e

LETC=/usr/local/etc
PBASE=/usr/ports
RMLFCNF=rm_leaf.conf
SCRFILE=remove_leaf_ports.sh

PKGINFO=`cd /var/db/pkg  find . -type d | sed '/^.$/d;s/^\.\///'`
PKGREQB=`cd /var/db/pkg  ls */+REQUIRED_BY | sed 's/\/+REQUIRED_BY//g'`
NOTLIST=`cat $LETC/$RMLFCNF`

# remove any packages that are required by any other packages
for PKG in $PKGREQB ; do [ -s /var/db/pkg/$PKG/+REQUIRED_BY ]  \
PKGINFO=`echo $PKGINFO | sed s/$PKG//` ; done

# remove any packages that are in the users list of 'to keep' packages
for PKG in $NOTLIST ; do PKGINFO=`echo $PKGINFO | sed s/$PKG[^ ]*//` ; done

# if there's nothing left in PKGINFO, exit now
[ -z $PKGINFO ]  echo No packages/ports to remove.  exit

rm -f $SCRFILE # remove the script file (just in case)

# match up packages to origin in the ports tree
for PKG in $PKGINFO ; do RMLIST=${RMLIST:-} $PKG:$PBASE/`pkg_info -o $( echo 
$PKG ) | sed -n '/^Origin:$/{n;p;}'` ; done

cat  $SCRFILE  EOFA
#!/bin/sh
# script to remove all leaf packages not listed in /usr/local/etc/rm_leaf.list
set -e

EOFA

# create script to remove all selected packages
for PKG in $RMLIST ; do
PNAME=`echo $PKG | sed 's/:.*$//'`
PPATH=`echo $PKG | sed 's/^[^:]*://'`
cat  $SCRFILE -EOFB
echo Removing $PNAME in $PPATH:
cd $PPATH
make deinstall clean distclean
echo Success! ; echo ; echo
EOFB
done

[ -n ${1:-} ]  cat $SCRFILE  rm $SCRFILE
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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-02-01 Thread RW
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 08:04, Christopher Illies wrote:

 Have a look at /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_cutleaves. It is a script that
 detects and removes orphaned dependencies.

Just bear in mind that some of the leaves will be required for building other 
ports. Whilst they can be safely removed, it might save time to leave them.

Personally, I think  pkg_cutleaves has it about right, anything more automated 
may lead to nasty surprises. Such systems have no reliable way of knowing 
whether users are making direct use of a port that was originally installed 
as a dependency.
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Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Matt LaPlante

I know the ports system is designed to install dependencies automatically,
but how does one go about removing them?  Say one large package installs
several dependencies, but then later on that package is removed...and now
we're left with several orphaned packages.  Is there a way to either detect,
or even automatically clean out orphaned packages?  I'm particularly
concerned because I'm dealing with a few systems which are rather well aged,
and have gone through several upgrade cycles.  I know the Linux version of
the ports system found in Gentoo (portage) offers extensive functionality
for finding and removing orphaned dependencies, so I'm hoping FreeBSD has
some such feature as well.  Thanks.

-
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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Pat Maddox
If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then it'll
let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to delete
the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you want to
delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can use the -r
flag.

Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.

I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)
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RE: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Matt LaPlante
Well what I'm more concerned with is how would you locate orphaned
dependencies after the fact.  For a parallel example, in gentoo you would
emerge --depclean which searches the tree for any orphaned packages and
removes them.  So say I hadn't used the -r flag when removing packages on
BSD, how could I find the leftovers later?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Pat Maddox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 PM
 To: Matt LaPlante
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
 
 If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then it'll
 let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to delete
 the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you want to
 delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can use the -r
 flag.
 
 Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.
 
 I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)

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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Pat Maddox
pkgdb -F will tell you of any packages that have broken dependencies,
and allow you to fix them if you choose.


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:16:56 -0500, Matt LaPlante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well what I'm more concerned with is how would you locate orphaned
 dependencies after the fact.  For a parallel example, in gentoo you would
 emerge --depclean which searches the tree for any orphaned packages and
 removes them.  So say I hadn't used the -r flag when removing packages on
 BSD, how could I find the leftovers later?
 
 --
 Matt LaPlante
 System Administrator
 Center for Automation Technologies
 RPI/CAT, CII 8015
 110 8th Street
 Troy, NY 12180
 Phone: (518) 276-2275
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.cat.rpi.edu
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pat Maddox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 PM
  To: Matt LaPlante
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
 
  If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then it'll
  let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to delete
  the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you want to
  delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can use the -r
  flag.
 
  Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.
 
  I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)
 

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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Monday 31 January 2005 06:16 pm, Matt LaPlante wrote:
 Well what I'm more concerned with is how would you locate orphaned
 dependencies after the fact.  For a parallel example, in gentoo you
 would emerge --depclean which searches the tree for any orphaned
 packages and removes them.  So say I hadn't used the -r flag when
 removing packages on BSD, how could I find the leftovers later?

Look at /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_cutleaves

here is a excerpt from its man page:

pkg_cutleaves  finds  installed 'leaf' packages, i.e. packages that are
 not referenced by any other installed package, and lets you decide  for
 each  one  if  you want to keep or deinstall it (via pkg_deinstall(1)).
Once the packages marked for  removal  have  been  flushed/deinstalled,
 you'll  be  asked  if  you want to do another run (to see packages that
 have become 'leaves' now because you've deinstalled the package(s) that
 depended  on  them).  In every run you will be shown only packages that
 you haven't marked for keeping, yet.

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 System Administrator
 Center for Automation Technologies
 RPI/CAT, CII 8015
 110 8th Street
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 Phone: (518) 276-2275
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.cat.rpi.edu

  -Original Message-
  From: Pat Maddox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 PM
  To: Matt LaPlante
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
 
  If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then
  it'll let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to
  delete the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you
  want to delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can
  use the -r flag.
 
  Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.
 
  I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)

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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Nathan Wheeler
I think portsclean does that. I can't remember how though. Its in the 
portupgrade package.

Nathan
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Subject: RE: Cleaning Out Ports?


Well what I'm more concerned with is how would you locate orphaned
dependencies after the fact.  For a parallel example, in gentoo you would
emerge --depclean which searches the tree for any orphaned packages and
removes them.  So say I hadn't used the -r flag when removing packages on
BSD, how could I find the leftovers later?
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-Original Message-
From: Pat Maddox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 PM
To: Matt LaPlante
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then it'll
let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to delete
the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you want to
delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can use the -r
flag.
Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.
I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)
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RE: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Matt LaPlante
This looks like what I'm after, thank you!

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael C. Shultz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:23 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Matt LaPlante
 Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
 
 On Monday 31 January 2005 06:16 pm, Matt LaPlante wrote:
  Well what I'm more concerned with is how would you locate orphaned
  dependencies after the fact.  For a parallel example, in gentoo you
  would emerge --depclean which searches the tree for any orphaned
  packages and removes them.  So say I hadn't used the -r flag when
  removing packages on BSD, how could I find the leftovers later?
 
 Look at /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_cutleaves
 
 here is a excerpt from its man page:
 
 pkg_cutleaves  finds  installed 'leaf' packages, i.e. packages that are
  not referenced by any other installed package, and lets you decide  for
  each  one  if  you want to keep or deinstall it (via pkg_deinstall(1)).
 Once the packages marked for  removal  have  been  flushed/deinstalled,
  you'll  be  asked  if  you want to do another run (to see packages that
  have become 'leaves' now because you've deinstalled the package(s) that
  depended  on  them).  In every run you will be shown only packages that
  you haven't marked for keeping, yet.
 
  --
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   -Original Message-
   From: Pat Maddox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 PM
   To: Matt LaPlante
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: Cleaning Out Ports?
  
   If you try to remove a package that has child dependencies, then
   it'll let you know.  You'll have to use the -f flag to force it to
   delete the package, despite there being any dependencies.  If you
   want to delete a package along with all its dependencies, you can
   use the -r flag.
  
   Use pkgdb -F to fix any dependencies that might be broken.
  
   I think that's about right.  I'm a FreeBSD newbie :)
 
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Re: Cleaning Out Ports?

2005-01-31 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Monday 31 January 2005 06:35 pm, Matt LaPlante wrote:
 This looks like what I'm after, thank you!

After you try it, if sysutils/pkg_cutleaves doesn't meet your 
requirements please let me know.  I can add exactly what you asked for 
to sysutils/portmanager.  I don't want to add features that are 
available elsewhere unless there is a very compelling reason.
If sysutils/pkg_cutleaves isn't right, please provide good detail why.

-Mike


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Re: Cleaning port config options

2004-12-14 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:38:17 -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick
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 I was installing the mail/dspam port and the selection of options
 appeared for configuration, then after selecting, the configuration
 stopped with an error that I had selected too many back-end options. I
 did 'make distclean' and 'make clean', but the options list will not
 appear again for me to alter the configuration options. How do I do
 this?

# rm /var/db/ports/portname/options 


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Cleaning port config options

2004-12-13 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I was installing the mail/dspam port and the selection of options
appeared for configuration, then after selecting, the configuration
stopped with an error that I had selected too many back-end options. I
did 'make distclean' and 'make clean', but the options list will not
appear again for me to alter the configuration options. How do I do
this?

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Re: Cleaning port config options

2004-12-13 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:38:17 -0500
Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 I was installing the mail/dspam port and the selection of options
 appeared for configuration, then after selecting, the configuration
 stopped with an error that I had selected too many back-end options. I
 did 'make distclean' and 'make clean', but the options list will not
 appear again for me to alter the configuration options. How do I do
 this?

make rmconfig

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Re: Cleaning port config options

2004-12-13 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 11:00, Miguel Mendez wrote:
  I was installing the mail/dspam port and the selection of options
  appeared for configuration, then after selecting, the configuration
  stopped with an error that I had selected too many back-end options. I
  did 'make distclean' and 'make clean', but the options list will not
  appear again for me to alter the configuration options. How do I do
  this?
 
 make rmconfig
 

Thanks, I've tried this as well with no luck. I did 'make distclean',
then 'make rmconfig', then 'make rmconfig' again to have it say no user
settings were found. Then I do make and leave all default make settings,
it gives me the same error:

===   dspam-3.2.3.20041203.1245 depends on file:
/usr/local/bin/libtool15 - found
===   dspam-3.2.3.20041203.1245 depends on shared library: ecpg.4 -
found
===   dspam-3.2.3.20041203.1245 depends on shared library: sqlite.2 -
found
===  Configuring for dspam-3.2.3.20041203.1245


You can use one and only one database back-end at once.
*** Error code 1

Can there possibly be anything else not getting cleaned up?

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Re: Cleaning port config options

2004-12-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was installing the mail/dspam port and the selection of options
 appeared for configuration, then after selecting, the configuration
 stopped with an error that I had selected too many back-end options. I
 did 'make distclean' and 'make clean', but the options list will not
 appear again for me to alter the configuration options. How do I do
 this?

According to man ports, that would make rmconfig.
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Re: Cleaning port config options

2004-12-13 Thread Dan Kilbourne
Robert Fitzpatrick extolled:
 On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 11:00, Miguel Mendez wrote:
 
 Can there possibly be anything else not getting cleaned up?
 
 -- 
 Robert
 


Did you look in /var/db/ports/ ?

There may be something in there that is missed by make rmconfig


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cleaning

2003-10-22 Thread Rogue Spider
is there a freebsd equivalent to scandisk and
diskdefrag so that i can clean the drive it says on
start up that the dir are fragmented but after that i
am unsertain.

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Re: cleaning

2003-10-22 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Rogue Spider wrote:

is there a freebsd equivalent to scandisk and
diskdefrag so that i can clean the drive it says on
start up that the dir are fragmented but after that i
am unsertain.
 

If there is fragmentation, it is cleaned up
in the boot process (for 4.x) or done in
the background after booting (on 5.x).
Note that fragmentation on a ufs volume
is different from what you're used to
on DOS/FAT filesystems.
As long as the box is running, you have no
worries.  If there's ever a significant problem, you'll
be told to boot single-user and fix it yourself
using 'fsck'.
HTH,

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RE: cleaning

2003-10-22 Thread Jason Lavigne
My understanding is FreeBSD is self cleaning, not like Windows.

cheers

Jay


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is there a freebsd equivalent to scandisk and
diskdefrag so that i can clean the drive it says on
start up that the dir are fragmented but after that i
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Re: cleaning

2003-10-22 Thread Jens Rehsack
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
Rogue Spider wrote:

is there a freebsd equivalent to scandisk and
diskdefrag so that i can clean the drive it says on
start up that the dir are fragmented but after that i
am unsertain.
If there is fragmentation, it is cleaned up
in the boot process (for 4.x) or done in
the background after booting (on 5.x).
Did it changed? My last information is, *bsd checks
the disks at boot if they were not cleanly unmounted.
Otherwise there will nothing happens in this
direction.
Note that fragmentation on a ufs volume
is different from what you're used to
on DOS/FAT filesystems.
Yes, fragments are parts of a block of a filesystem,
where several small files or tails of files are
stored together to avoid waste of space by using
an entire block for a small piece of data.
As long as the box is running, you have no
worries.  If there's ever a significant problem, you'll
be told to boot single-user and fix it yourself
using 'fsck'.
Or you didn't notice. Usually next boot will show you.
If a hardware failure occur, you may never notice except
you check your entire disk(s) and prove all sectors
on the disk.
Jens

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Re: cleaning

2003-10-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:55:21AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
 Rogue Spider wrote:
 
 is there a freebsd equivalent to scandisk and
 diskdefrag so that i can clean the drive it says on
 start up that the dir are fragmented but after that i
 am unsertain.
  
 
 
 If there is fragmentation, it is cleaned up
 in the boot process (for 4.x) or done in
 the background after booting (on 5.x).

fsck does not defragment the filesystem, but doing so is not
necessary except under extreme usage patterns, because UFS is not so
badly-designed as to require regular defragmentation.

Kris


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Spring cleaning - hardware give-away for Seth Henry

2003-10-15 Thread Lee Murfin
Need the cit224/keyboard you have listed. I'm in Toronto Canada and can give
you my fedex #. and some $$$ for your troubles. Would appreciate a relply.
Sincerely,
Lee Murfin, Service Division
Cycom
1-3500 Pharmacy Ave.
Scarborough (Toronto), Ontario
Canada M1W 2T6 416-494-5040


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Cleaning Postfix queue (was: Qmail on FBSD is flooding)

2003-07-18 Thread Johan Paul
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Sunil Sunder Raj wrote:

 Hi,
 Please run qmail-qstat and check the qmail queue. There is a simple shell 
 script to clean the queue.

Hi all,

I just came to think of if there might be a similar script for Postfix to 
clean and/or check the mail queue? 


Regards,

Johan Paul

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Re: Cleaning Postfix queue (was: Qmail on FBSD is flooding)

2003-07-18 Thread jan.muenther

Hello,

 I just came to think of if there might be a similar script for Postfix to 
 clean and/or check the mail queue? 

To check the mail queue simply run /usr/bin/mailq.
To delete a mail from the queue, run 'postsuper -d queue_id', the ID
being the ID value you got from mailq. 
'postsuper -d ALL' deletes all mail from the queue. 

Read the postsuper manpage.

Cheers, J.
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Spring cleaning giveaway - UPDATE

2003-06-05 Thread J. Seth Henry
I managed to get rid of some of my surplus gear, but not all.

I had a fellow claim the serial terminal, and some of the K6 CPU's, but
never got back to me with an address. If you still want these items, let
me know.

I had someone else looking for a K6 CPU, but my emails have been bouncing.

Right now, I still have:

1) CIT224 serial terminal VT52/100/200 - runs up to 9600 baud reliably,
19200 with occasional problems.

~15 lbs

2) 4x K6-2 266 CPU's. Presently in a tray, but I can divide them up.

3) 1x K6-3+ 450 CPU with heatsink/fan (not sure if it works)

4) Voodoo2 board. I believe this is the 12Mb version of the card. I have
the passthrough cable, and I believe the SLI cable as well.

5) 4x 1Mb 30-pin SIMM's

6) 1x Compaq RAM for 386LTE, or similar vintage laptop.

Last call - after this, it goes to the dump, or the local thrift shops.

Regards,
Seth Henry
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Spring cleaning - hardware give-away

2003-06-02 Thread J. Seth Henry
I have a bit of functional, but older equipment I hate to throw away, but
no longer have the space to keep. If anyone is interested, it's yours for
the price of (actual) shipping. Some of this stuff might be able to go on
eBay (and may, if no one claims any of it), but I'd rather see if any of
my fellow FreeBSD users/fans are interested first.

1) Old vinum disk array. Contains 11 Seagate ST32550WD (HVD differential)
SCSI hard disks, a 20MB/s HVD/LVD converter, HVD terminator, and beefy
power supply. There is a cut out for a 8 fan, but the fan has long since
gone out. However, the mounting hardware for the fan and filter remain.

I used this in college to store MP3's, and as far as I know, they are
still on the array.

Weighs approximately 35 pounds - I can probably be talked into breaking
this up if you don't want all of the disks, or are only interested in the
SCSI converter, etc.

2) 15 meter (yes, meters) HVD SCSI cable. It's long, folks. Originally I
picked this up on eBay so I could keep the above array in a different room
(for noise reasons).

Somewhere around 5-6 pounds

3) CIT 224 serial terminal. Supports VT52/100/200 terminal modes, and can
operate (reliably) up to 9600 baud. 19200 is supported, but has problems.
I currently use it as a head for my headless server, but am looking to
replace it with an X terminal that draws just as much juice, and has a
GUI :) The keyboard is a tad yellow, but otherwise fine. It's previous
life was spent monitoring a router, so there may be some faint burn-in.

Probably 10-15 pounds with keyboard.

4) Symbios UW HVD SCSI controller. I'm trying to ditch all my HVD SCSI
gear, and this is the last controller on hand. Great if you want the above
array, but don't have an HVD controller. It is supported by FreeBSD (works
great too)

5) Voodoo 2 3D graphics accelerator - with passthrough cable. Still holds
up for older games. I may even have the SLI cable somewhere, though I only
have the one card.

6) Digi Digiboard PC/4e with DB9 (male) breakout cable. This is the older
ISA version of the card. In excellent condition (was bought new), but
replaced with PCI card after a server upgrade. This board is well
supported by FreeBSD - it formed the communications portion of a home
automation controller for some time. No manuals or disks, though - long
since lost in moves.

7) Analog Devices SHARC ez-kit lite development kit. Comes with
development board, power supply, and CD-ROM with software. I thought I was
going to get into programming DSP's, and bought the kit - but later
decided home automation was my thing. Works great, has stereo input and
output. Great for home-made equalizers or effects boxes, though it is a
tad underpowered.

2-3 pounds (mostly the power supply)

8) Motorola MC68ICS05P microcontroller development kit. Comes with lots of
interesting stuff, including the dev board. This part is well supported by
free tools, including from Motorola. Perfect for a senior design project -
unfortunately, I've already got a MSEE, and I don't plan on using this
kit anymore.

9) Paralan NARROW HVD-SE SCSI converter. Mounted in a 5.25 chassis, it
allows you to attach normal narrow SCSI devices to a HVD SCSI controller
(or vice versa). It is presently configured to terminate, but this can be
changed with jumpers.

More stuff may be dredged up as I finish Spring cleaning, but that's it
for now.

First come, first served - and remember, all you have to come up with is
shipping. I'd just like to see this gear end up in the hands of someone
who could use it.

Later,
Seth Henry
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Re: Spring cleaning - hardware give-away

2003-06-02 Thread MaryAnne Olsen
What is your zip code?
- Original Message -
From: J. Seth Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 4:37 PM
Subject: Spring cleaning - hardware give-away


 I have a bit of functional, but older equipment I hate to throw away, but
 no longer have the space to keep. If anyone is interested, it's yours for
 the price of (actual) shipping. Some of this stuff might be able to go on
 eBay (and may, if no one claims any of it), but I'd rather see if any of
 my fellow FreeBSD users/fans are interested first.

 1) Old vinum disk array. Contains 11 Seagate ST32550WD (HVD differential)
 SCSI hard disks, a 20MB/s HVD/LVD converter, HVD terminator, and beefy
 power supply. There is a cut out for a 8 fan, but the fan has long since
 gone out. However, the mounting hardware for the fan and filter remain.

 I used this in college to store MP3's, and as far as I know, they are
 still on the array.

 Weighs approximately 35 pounds - I can probably be talked into breaking
 this up if you don't want all of the disks, or are only interested in the
 SCSI converter, etc.

 2) 15 meter (yes, meters) HVD SCSI cable. It's long, folks. Originally I
 picked this up on eBay so I could keep the above array in a different room
 (for noise reasons).

 Somewhere around 5-6 pounds

 3) CIT 224 serial terminal. Supports VT52/100/200 terminal modes, and can
 operate (reliably) up to 9600 baud. 19200 is supported, but has problems.
 I currently use it as a head for my headless server, but am looking to
 replace it with an X terminal that draws just as much juice, and has a
 GUI :) The keyboard is a tad yellow, but otherwise fine. It's previous
 life was spent monitoring a router, so there may be some faint burn-in.

 Probably 10-15 pounds with keyboard.

 4) Symbios UW HVD SCSI controller. I'm trying to ditch all my HVD SCSI
 gear, and this is the last controller on hand. Great if you want the above
 array, but don't have an HVD controller. It is supported by FreeBSD (works
 great too)

 5) Voodoo 2 3D graphics accelerator - with passthrough cable. Still holds
 up for older games. I may even have the SLI cable somewhere, though I only
 have the one card.

 6) Digi Digiboard PC/4e with DB9 (male) breakout cable. This is the older
 ISA version of the card. In excellent condition (was bought new), but
 replaced with PCI card after a server upgrade. This board is well
 supported by FreeBSD - it formed the communications portion of a home
 automation controller for some time. No manuals or disks, though - long
 since lost in moves.

 7) Analog Devices SHARC ez-kit lite development kit. Comes with
 development board, power supply, and CD-ROM with software. I thought I was
 going to get into programming DSP's, and bought the kit - but later
 decided home automation was my thing. Works great, has stereo input and
 output. Great for home-made equalizers or effects boxes, though it is a
 tad underpowered.

 2-3 pounds (mostly the power supply)

 8) Motorola MC68ICS05P microcontroller development kit. Comes with lots of
 interesting stuff, including the dev board. This part is well supported by
 free tools, including from Motorola. Perfect for a senior design project -
 unfortunately, I've already got a MSEE, and I don't plan on using this
 kit anymore.

 9) Paralan NARROW HVD-SE SCSI converter. Mounted in a 5.25 chassis, it
 allows you to attach normal narrow SCSI devices to a HVD SCSI controller
 (or vice versa). It is presently configured to terminate, but this can be
 changed with jumpers.

 More stuff may be dredged up as I finish Spring cleaning, but that's it
 for now.

 First come, first served - and remember, all you have to come up with is
 shipping. I'd just like to see this gear end up in the hands of someone
 who could use it.

 Later,
 Seth Henry
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Re: Spring cleaning - hardware give-away

2003-06-02 Thread J. Seth Henry
I live near Baltimore, Maryland (US) ZIP is 21113

Regards,
Seth Henry

On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, MaryAnne Olsen wrote:

 What is your zip code?
 - Original Message -
 From: J. Seth Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 4:37 PM
 Subject: Spring cleaning - hardware give-away


  I have a bit of functional, but older equipment I hate to throw away, but
  no longer have the space to keep. If anyone is interested, it's yours for
  the price of (actual) shipping. Some of this stuff might be able to go on
  eBay (and may, if no one claims any of it), but I'd rather see if any of
  my fellow FreeBSD users/fans are interested first.
 
  1) Old vinum disk array. Contains 11 Seagate ST32550WD (HVD differential)
  SCSI hard disks, a 20MB/s HVD/LVD converter, HVD terminator, and beefy
  power supply. There is a cut out for a 8 fan, but the fan has long since
  gone out. However, the mounting hardware for the fan and filter remain.
 
  I used this in college to store MP3's, and as far as I know, they are
  still on the array.
 
  Weighs approximately 35 pounds - I can probably be talked into breaking
  this up if you don't want all of the disks, or are only interested in the
  SCSI converter, etc.
 
  2) 15 meter (yes, meters) HVD SCSI cable. It's long, folks. Originally I
  picked this up on eBay so I could keep the above array in a different room
  (for noise reasons).
 
  Somewhere around 5-6 pounds
 
  3) CIT 224 serial terminal. Supports VT52/100/200 terminal modes, and can
  operate (reliably) up to 9600 baud. 19200 is supported, but has problems.
  I currently use it as a head for my headless server, but am looking to
  replace it with an X terminal that draws just as much juice, and has a
  GUI :) The keyboard is a tad yellow, but otherwise fine. It's previous
  life was spent monitoring a router, so there may be some faint burn-in.
 
  Probably 10-15 pounds with keyboard.
 
  4) Symbios UW HVD SCSI controller. I'm trying to ditch all my HVD SCSI
  gear, and this is the last controller on hand. Great if you want the above
  array, but don't have an HVD controller. It is supported by FreeBSD (works
  great too)
 
  5) Voodoo 2 3D graphics accelerator - with passthrough cable. Still holds
  up for older games. I may even have the SLI cable somewhere, though I only
  have the one card.
 
  6) Digi Digiboard PC/4e with DB9 (male) breakout cable. This is the older
  ISA version of the card. In excellent condition (was bought new), but
  replaced with PCI card after a server upgrade. This board is well
  supported by FreeBSD - it formed the communications portion of a home
  automation controller for some time. No manuals or disks, though - long
  since lost in moves.
 
  7) Analog Devices SHARC ez-kit lite development kit. Comes with
  development board, power supply, and CD-ROM with software. I thought I was
  going to get into programming DSP's, and bought the kit - but later
  decided home automation was my thing. Works great, has stereo input and
  output. Great for home-made equalizers or effects boxes, though it is a
  tad underpowered.
 
  2-3 pounds (mostly the power supply)
 
  8) Motorola MC68ICS05P microcontroller development kit. Comes with lots of
  interesting stuff, including the dev board. This part is well supported by
  free tools, including from Motorola. Perfect for a senior design project -
  unfortunately, I've already got a MSEE, and I don't plan on using this
  kit anymore.
 
  9) Paralan NARROW HVD-SE SCSI converter. Mounted in a 5.25 chassis, it
  allows you to attach normal narrow SCSI devices to a HVD SCSI controller
  (or vice versa). It is presently configured to terminate, but this can be
  changed with jumpers.
 
  More stuff may be dredged up as I finish Spring cleaning, but that's it
  for now.
 
  First come, first served - and remember, all you have to come up with is
  shipping. I'd just like to see this gear end up in the hands of someone
  who could use it.
 
  Later,
  Seth Henry
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