creating a broken graid3 array?

2006-11-23 Thread John Nielsen
Is it possible to create a (degraded) graid3 array with only two (or one 
less than the planned total) providers? I'm asking since I would like to 
move from my current one-disk setup to a three-disk raid3 array, but I'd 
like the disk currently in use to be a member of the array and I don't have 
anywhere to conveniently back up the data already there. I'd like to create 
a degraded graid3 array with the two new components, copy the data from the 
current disk to the array, and then add the current disk in to the array.

If that's not a possibility, can anyone suggest a way to get the same end 
result?

Thanks,

JN
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Re: creating a broken graid3 array?

2006-11-23 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 11/23/06, John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it possible to create a (degraded) graid3 array


Maybe you'll be able to create graid3 with md0 as
the third member (based on sparse file for example)
and later emulate a failure (md0 disappears) and
insert your hard drive.
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Re: creating a broken graid3 array?

2006-11-23 Thread usleepless

John,

On 11/23/06, John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it possible to create a (degraded) graid3 array with only two (or one
less than the planned total) providers? I'm asking since I would like to
move from my current one-disk setup to a three-disk raid3 array, but I'd
like the disk currently in use to be a member of the array and I don't have
anywhere to conveniently back up the data already there. I'd like to create
a degraded graid3 array with the two new components, copy the data from the
current disk to the array, and then add the current disk in to the array.

If that's not a possibility, can anyone suggest a way to get the same end
result?


while i know close to nothing about raid, here is what i think:

1. you have no backup ( otherwise you could pull it off )
2. you are trying to achieve your goal through a tricky method ( me
thinks anyways :-)

is the loss of your data worth less than the cost of an extra hd? if
so, buy another hd. if not, make a clean install?

and assuming a 3 hd raid setup, would it not be wise to have a spare hd anyway?

what's the point?

regards,

usleep
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Re: creating a broken graid3 array?

2006-11-23 Thread usleepless

is the loss of your data worth less than the cost of an extra hd? if
so, buy another hd. if not, make a clean install?


should read:
 is the cost of an extra hd less than the value of your data/install? if
 so, buy another hd. if not, make a clean install?

regards,

usleep
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Re: creating a broken graid3 array?

2006-11-23 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 23 November 2006 17:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  is the loss of your data worth less than the cost of an extra hd? if
  so, buy another hd. if not, make a clean install?

 should read:
   is the cost of an extra hd less than the value of your data/install? if
   so, buy another hd. if not, make a clean install?

I have backups of the data that can't be reproduced. I just don't have room 
for some of the larger files (CD ISO's, DVD rips, etc). It would be 
inconvenient to lose the data but far from catastrophic.

One goal of this exercise is to get some redundancy, but at least as 
important are the goals of learning more about something I haven't used 
before (graid3) and getting a larger volume on a limited budget.

Besides, trickery is where the fun comes in. :)

I appreciate the response, though. It's a point I might have raised myself.

JN
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Re: creating a broken graid3 array?

2006-11-23 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 23 November 2006 16:00, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 On 11/23/06, John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is it possible to create a (degraded) graid3 array

 Maybe you'll be able to create graid3 with md0 as
 the third member (based on sparse file for example)
 and later emulate a failure (md0 disappears) and
 insert your hard drive.

That's the thought I had as well after I posted. I'll probably give that a 
try once I'm ready to get started.

Thanks,

JN
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