deadlock caused by idprio?

2005-11-19 Thread Doug Lee
I just ran a MySQL lookup process (written in Perl) as root prefixed
with idprio 1.  I expected it to take a while, but not several
minutes.  After a while I decided to abort it, so I typed ^c in its
`screen' window.  From then on (either from the ^c point or the idprio
run, I know not which), I could not create any new processes, nor
could I kill the running task.  Any attempt to do either would hang
indefinitely.  I could end processes and work within existing
processes as long as they didn't try to create new ones.  I entered
the debugger (I use the alt method of cr~^b) and typed, among other
things, show lockedvnodes and got one vnode which said ... with 22
pending, and this count went up by 1 each time I tried creating a new
process.  Sadly, I forgot to snapshot that screen, so I can't quote
the rest of that entry.  I remember it said VDIR and type
something+VOBJECT, but I don't remember what the something was.
Unable to retrieve my system, I finally typed panic in the debugger
so at least the disks would sync.  Other than giving up on 4
buffers, that went fine.

Any ideas what this is, and whether it's a bug?  I thought idprio was
harmless as far as affecting other processes.

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Re: deadlock caused by idprio?

2005-11-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 01:32:36PM -0500, Doug Lee wrote:
 I just ran a MySQL lookup process (written in Perl) as root prefixed
 with idprio 1.  I expected it to take a while, but not several
 minutes.  After a while I decided to abort it, so I typed ^c in its
 `screen' window.  From then on (either from the ^c point or the idprio
 run, I know not which), I could not create any new processes, nor
 could I kill the running task.  Any attempt to do either would hang
 indefinitely.  I could end processes and work within existing
 processes as long as they didn't try to create new ones.  I entered
 the debugger (I use the alt method of cr~^b) and typed, among other
 things, show lockedvnodes and got one vnode which said ... with 22
 pending, and this count went up by 1 each time I tried creating a new
 process.  Sadly, I forgot to snapshot that screen, so I can't quote
 the rest of that entry.  I remember it said VDIR and type
 something+VOBJECT, but I don't remember what the something was.
 Unable to retrieve my system, I finally typed panic in the debugger
 so at least the disks would sync.  Other than giving up on 4
 buffers, that went fine.
 
 Any ideas what this is, and whether it's a bug?  I thought idprio was
 harmless as far as affecting other processes.

No, it's known to cause deadlocks.  I don't know if this is still the
case on 6.0.

Kris


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Re: deadlock caused by idprio?

2005-11-19 Thread Doug Lee
Any hidden hazards in rtprio then?  I plan to use rtprio when
recording sound, so i/o bursts etc. won't cause things to be missed in
the recording.

Thanks much for the idprio heads-up.

And I do hope, sometime, to jump from 4 to 6 directly--though I also
plan to buy a new machine for that.  I currently run 4.10 on a P166.
Nice to have support for old hardware, and amazing that all I miss in
using it are speed of MySQL and mail searches and sound-handling
performance; but it is time...

On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 04:09:03PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 01:32:36PM -0500, Doug Lee wrote:
 I just ran a MySQL lookup process (written in Perl) as root prefixed
 with idprio 1.  I expected it to take a while, but not several
 minutes.  After a while I decided to abort it, so I typed ^c in its
 `screen' window.  From then on (either from the ^c point or the idprio
 run, I know not which), I could not create any new processes, nor
 could I kill the running task.  Any attempt to do either would hang
 indefinitely.  I could end processes and work within existing
 processes as long as they didn't try to create new ones.  I entered
 the debugger (I use the alt method of cr~^b) and typed, among other
 things, show lockedvnodes and got one vnode which said ... with 22
 pending, and this count went up by 1 each time I tried creating a new
 process.  Sadly, I forgot to snapshot that screen, so I can't quote
 the rest of that entry.  I remember it said VDIR and type
 something+VOBJECT, but I don't remember what the something was.
 Unable to retrieve my system, I finally typed panic in the debugger
 so at least the disks would sync.  Other than giving up on 4
 buffers, that went fine.
 
 Any ideas what this is, and whether it's a bug?  I thought idprio was
 harmless as far as affecting other processes.

No, it's known to cause deadlocks.  I don't know if this is still the
case on 6.0.

Kris



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