Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Noah]

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I don't install CPAN on FreeBSD.  I use the ports and packages from
http://www.freebsd.org/ports
Do a search for the module that you require P5- means it is a perl 
module also you can use the ports collection for PHP modules as well.  
This will automatically install any other dependent modules.


Hope this helps


Thanks Sean,

it does help indeed.  But I have installed some perl modules via CPAN.
What is the best way to list them and uninstall them so I can install
them via the the ports method?

Cheers,

Noah

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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Noah]

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I don't install CPAN on FreeBSD.  I use the ports and packages from
http://www.freebsd.org/ports
Do a search for the module that you require P5- means it is a perl 
module also you can use the ports collection for PHP modules as well.  
This will automatically install any other dependent modules.


Hope this helps


Thanks Sean,

it does help indeed.  But I have installed some perl modules via CPAN. 
What is the best way to list them and uninstall them so I can install 
them via the the ports method?


Cheers,

Noah
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Re: [freebsd-questions] easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Aliya Harbouri]

Hi Howie,

> What does CPANPLUS do that CPAN doesn't that makes this a better
> solution? Does it somehow integrate with the ports better? (rather than
> getting conflicts between p5-* and bsdpan-*)
>
> I use quite a lot of CPAN modules, so a way to be able to get 'obscure'
> modules, and still use portupgrade effectively would be good :-)


It's been made pretty clear to me by a number of folks that p5* ports
have "no responsibility" for keeping track of
dependencies/conflicts/whatever with NON p5*- installed modules.

I'm sure there are a lot of really experienced folks around here who
have NO problems with p5*-based systems.

For me, though, I can only say that I never quite figured out how to
make those annoying, not-infrequent conflicts go away -- EXECPT to
move to a "vanilla" CPAN/CPANPLUS (doesn't much matter, actually --
*these* two *do* play nice together) system.  Once I removed/replaced
all the FreeBSD BSDPAN- & p5- installed modules, all my conflicts have
gone away.

As "they" say, YMMV.

HTH!

Ali
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Re: [freebsd-questions] easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Howard Jones]

Gerard wrote:

On October 24, 2007 at 02:11PM Sean Murphy wrote:
  
2) Use CPANPLUS to install the module.


Unless the user has the time, knowledge and motivation to do the first, the
second approach is usually superior.

  
What does CPANPLUS do that CPAN doesn't that makes this a better 
solution? Does it somehow integrate with the ports better? (rather than 
getting conflicts between p5-* and bsdpan-*)


I use quite a lot of CPAN modules, so a way to be able to get 'obscure' 
modules, and still use portupgrade effectively would be good :-)


Howie
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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Gerard]

On October 24, 2007 at 02:11PM Sean Murphy wrote:


> I don't install CPAN on FreeBSD.  I use the ports and packages from
> http://www.freebsd.org/ports
> Do a search for the module that you require P5- means it is a perl 
> module also you can use the ports collection for PHP modules as well.  
> This will automatically install any other dependent modules.

Unfortunately, not all CPAN modules are available in the ports collection.
That leaves just two readily available avenues open.

1) Become a maintainer and port the module to FreeBSD. This is a rather time
consuming process that while it has its advantages, it is certainly not
advantageous for a user who needs the module installed now.

2) Use CPANPLUS to install the module.

Unless the user has the time, knowledge and motivation to do the first, the
second approach is usually superior.

Just my 2¢.


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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Sean Murphy]

Noah wrote:



Martin Hepworth wrote:

what have you tried and what errors do you get?



Martin


thanks for responding.  here are the errors I am receiving when I am 
attempting to update things.



sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->install(CPAN::Shell->r)' 
[~]

Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Cannot load ExtUtils::MakeMaker: Can't locate ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm in 
@INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at (eval 
4) line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm line 17.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN.pm 
line 16.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN.pm line 16.

Compilation failed in require.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.





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On 10/24/07, *Noah* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > 
wrote:


Hi there,

I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on 
FreeBSD.

  I keep running into errors in one variation or another.

Anybody have a good page to send me to?

Cheers,

Noah
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I don't install CPAN on FreeBSD.  I use the ports and packages from
http://www.freebsd.org/ports
Do a search for the module that you require P5- means it is a perl 
module also you can use the ports collection for PHP modules as well.  
This will automatically install any other dependent modules.


Hope this helps
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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Noah]

Martin Hepworth wrote:

what have you tried and what errors do you get?



Martin


thanks for responding.  here are the errors I am receiving when I am 
attempting to update things.



sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->install(CPAN::Shell->r)' 
[~]

Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Cannot load ExtUtils::MakeMaker: Can't locate ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm in 
@INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at (eval 
4) line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm line 17.

Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN.pm line 16.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN.pm 
line 16.

Compilation failed in require.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.





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On 10/24/07, *Noah* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:

Hi there,

I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on FreeBSD.
  I keep running into errors in one variation or another.

Anybody have a good page to send me to?

Cheers,

Noah
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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Aliya Harbouri]

Hi everybody!

> I'm not a very heavy perl user, but I've never *needed* to install CPAN on
> FreeBSD. A little creative searching has revealed that most perl packages
> are part of the FreeBSD Ports collection.
>
> If you use more obscure CPAN packages, I can see there might be a need to
> install CPAN, but try ports first.

I'll just add my 2-cents.

I've had repeated 'issues' with port-installed BSDPAN perl modules.
Those have been the usual: lagging versions, source bugs, dependency
conflicts with modules installed that are unavailable of problematic
via BSDPAN, etc etc.

I've found, in those cases, that communicating with the
Port-maintainer has not always been 'fruitful', and, communicating
with the perl mod author usually results in "that's a freebsd port
problem".

So, I currently use the Perl 588 *port*.  Then I install CPANPLUS and
remove all traces of BSDPAN-installed modules, replacing them with
CPANPLUS-installed modules.

A little bit of work, but, once done, I've had very few problems, and
*much* better responsiveness from perl module authors in actually
fixing problems.  And, the folks on the perl lists/channels are much
more willing/able to answer/solve problems.

Also, around here, I've got many different platforms to deal with.
Perl+CPANPLUS is platform agnostic -- it looks-n-feels the same.  Just
easier for my brain to grok than yet-another "way" -- ala BSDPAN.

Like I said, just my 2-cents.

HTH!

Ali
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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[James A. Harrison]

> Gerard wrote:
>> On October 24, 2007 at 01:44AM Noah wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on FreeBSD.
>>> I keep running into errors in one variation or another.
>>

I'm not a very heavy perl user, but I've never *needed* to install CPAN on
FreeBSD. A little creative searching has revealed that most perl packages
are part of the FreeBSD Ports collection.

If you use more obscure CPAN packages, I can see there might be a need to
install CPAN, but try ports first.

James
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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Vince]

Gerard wrote:
> On October 24, 2007 at 01:44AM Noah wrote:
> 
> 
>> I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on FreeBSD. 
>> I keep running into errors in one variation or another.
> 
I dont follow, CPAN.pm is installed as part of the perl port/package. Do
you mean the setup after you run perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' ?


> I thought CPAN was depreciated in favor of CPANPLUS. I have installed CPANPLUS
> from ports without any problems.
> 
> 
Well CPAN is part of the perl58 port while CPANPLUS is still an addon as
far as i can see. I tend to install my perl modules as ports anyway though.


Vince
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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Gerard]

On October 24, 2007 at 01:44AM Noah wrote:


> I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on FreeBSD. 
> I keep running into errors in one variation or another.

I thought CPAN was depreciated in favor of CPANPLUS. I have installed CPANPLUS
from ports without any problems.


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Re: easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Martin Hepworth]

what have you tried and what errors do you get?


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On 10/24/07, Noah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on FreeBSD.
>   I keep running into errors in one variation or another.
>
> Anybody have a good page to send me to?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Noah
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easiest way to install CPAN on FreeBSD

[Noah]

Hi there,

I am looking around for a really simple way to install CPAN on FreeBSD. 
 I keep running into errors in one variation or another.


Anybody have a good page to send me to?

Cheers,

Noah
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